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RonPaulFanInGA
02-07-2011, 09:11 AM
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/feb/07/ron-paul/rep-ron-paul-says-last-christians-are-about-leave-/

Rep. Ron Paul says that the last Christians are about to leave Iraq

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jrskblx125
02-07-2011, 09:15 AM
Im assuming he got his info from that times article to make that claim.

Krugerrand
02-07-2011, 09:15 AM
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/feb/07/ron-paul/rep-ron-paul-says-last-christians-are-about-leave-/

Rep. Ron Paul says that the last Christians are about to leave Iraq

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Perhaps I'm missing something here - but said what he read in the NYTimes and it looks like they're attacking the validity of the NY Times article. Why does that make RP the liar?

MRoCkEd
02-07-2011, 09:19 AM
Perhaps I'm missing something here - but said what he read in the NYTimes and it looks like they're attacking the validity of the NY Times article. Why does that make RP the liar?
Sounds like he just misread the article. It was talking about the last Christians in a single town, not the entire country.

GunnyFreedom
02-07-2011, 09:20 AM
Perhaps I'm missing something here - but said what he read in the NYTimes and it looks like they're attacking the validity of the NY Times article. Why does that make RP the liar?

Because that's the only way to give RP a "pants on fire" rating.

specsaregood
02-07-2011, 09:21 AM
It seems to me the bulk of the article actually backs up much of the sentiment behind what he said.



"there are no confirmed numbers on the numbers of Christians who remain in Iraq." Since Iraq’s latest national census was conducted in 1997, "we cannot really tell what is the exact number," she said.

No way to tell exact numbers....so what he said could be true.



The State Department report says Christian leaders in Iraq estimate that 400,000 to 600,000 residents are Christians, down from an estimated 800,000 to 1.4 million Christians in the country in 2003.

Already admittedly over 50% have left since 2003.



"Monitoring teams have been told by community leaders of increasing Christian emigration to Turkey since November 2010, which is confirmed by our colleagues in Turkey as well as recent media reports," the report says.

Another source backs up that they are leaving.



Threats and bombings targeting Christians occurred in Iraq before the October killings in Baghdad, but that incident marked the beginning of a more "systematized campaign of violence against this religious minority," according to the report.

Sounds like it wouldn't be smart to stay.



Becca Heller, director of the New York-based Iraqi Refugee Assistance Project, similarly told us that "there is definitely a strong trend of Christians" leaving the country but that it’s not true that all Christians have fled Iraq.

Strawman, he never said ALL christians have fled.







A Dec. 17 briefing by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees says "the Christian communities in Baghdad and Mosul have started a slow but steady exodus" since the October attacks. "In addition, our offices in neighboring Syria, Jordan and Lebanon are reporting a growing number of Iraqi Christians arriving," the briefing says.

Oh look, another report saying they are leaving.



with Christian leaders warning that the result of this flight may be the ‘end of Christianity in Iraq."
Our own govt report saying that it may come to be the end of all christians in Iraq.


Seriously, bunch of douchebags.

sailingaway
02-07-2011, 10:05 AM
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