New York Times' genius plots the GOP 2012 candidates

[Jack Bauer]

Left-Right Spectrum Fail Series - Part 638

http://www.538host.com/gopchart.png

Most "conservative": Santorum, DeMint, Bachman

Most "moderate": Johnson, Paul, Giu9llani

Mittens, Huck, Thune, Pawlenty, Palin, Gingrich - all more conservative than Ron Paul. :D

And these are the enlightened ones who will inform America about how to think. Wonderful!

More: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/04/a-graphical-overview-of-the-2012-republican-field/

[ItsTime]

Good to know that Paul is a moderate! No more kook comments.

[Brian4Liberty]

Obviously the moderate-conservative axis in this chart only represents rhetoric towards gays...

[axiomata]

Trump is Paul-like? I don't see it.

[emazur]

When you think about it, libertarians are the most "moderate". Conservatives will bankrupt America through war, enable big spending and big government when Republicans are the party in power, and try to control what you do in your own home. Hell, that same description goes for liberals as well. With liberals and conservatives, it's no longer (and perhaps never was) a debate between how much people should pay in taxes vs. how many services the government should provide. It's a race to see who will take us over the edge of the cliff first.

[Agorism]

Their moderate vs conservative seems to based on the being a "reactionary"

[Legend1104]

At least he is on the dang chart.

[Brian4Liberty]

Cross-dressing Giuliani being on the far-moderate side of the chart indicates that it is about gays. He is a big time war hawk, so it can't have anything to do with foreign policy...and then we have huge homophobe Santorum on the other side of the spectrum.

[specsaregood]

At least he is on the dang chart.

But if you notice, they managed to massage it so that he is at the bottom.

[low preference guy]

Ron Paul is just like Guiliani, as far as positions go. The only difference between them is that Ron is an outsider. But if you compare Ron Paul to DeMint, their positions are totally different!

What a dumb chart.

[specsaregood]

What a dumb chart.

On the contrary, I think it got their point across quite well.

[speciallyblend]

Ron Paul is just like Guiliani, as far as positions go. The only difference between them is that Ron is an outsider. But if you compare Ron Paul to DeMint, their positions are totally different!

What a dumb chart.

the latter part is on spot;)

[Freedom 4 all]

Clearly this has nothing to do with fiscal conservatism.

[civusamericanus]

The video below describes how I feel about Nate Silver's chart.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRmxfLuNto

[Brian4Liberty]

Coincidentally...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?278278-CPAC-To-Link-Ron-Paul-With-GOProud

[acptulsa]

The spin grows thin.

Nice of them to admit that there's something in the universe to consider besides their false 'left-right paradigm'. Cute the way they're trying to introduce some kind of vertical axis besides the fiscal/social axes we usually use. Maybe we can use this to get some more airplay for the real chart.

[wormyguy]

I suppose "moderate/conservative" on that chart could be described as "percentage of the time they agree with the Republican platform." Rudy and Ron both might agree with the standard GOP position on an issue 50% of the time, but it's a different 50%.