PDA

View Full Version : I hope you all realize why there is so much negativity spreading. We're winning.




hard@work
10-22-2007, 04:44 PM
A lot of information passes by very swiftly. Something you need to understand more than simply recognize is who the campaigns opponents truly are: everybody else. There is no big corporate or big government beneficiary in a Ron Paul campaign (in the immediate, they lose their monopolies). In the long term, the people benefit the greatest and the larger businesses will flourish. However this will take time and the businesses and government agencies now endowed with hegemony will not necessarily be able to compete in a true free market. The only reason the media outlets and disinformation agents / trolls are so rabid right now is the sheer amount of success we are having. We are winning this campaign whether they like it or not. This does not mean we will win the primary, even if we pull the numbers out to the polls. But that is not what matters ultimately - and you should think about this before you continue to spread information.

We have a choice to make. Actually, you have a choice to make in regards to what information you spread. This is a war over the minds of the people. You can spend time informing each other of negative press, or you can spend time pointing out logic and reason behind Dr. Paul's positions. If you haven't noticed yet, not one naysayer attacks the positions or the ideas. Just the messengers! This is a huge gaping hole, a massive sign of total weakness in our opponent. You need to start taking advantage of this and get that message out. If they cannot discuss the ideas then they truly have none of their own. Obviously they have to resort to name calling or issue dodging.

The enemies of the Paul camp want disinformation to spread. They know he is dead on, and they know they cannot fight him with logic. Logic and reason are the primary opponents of the other campaigns. In order to maintain their monopoly on America's economy and power base they must keep our message from getting out to the people. The message is the key. Logic and reason are the shield. Get this information out and get back to talking about policies and their effects on America.

ItsTime
10-22-2007, 05:00 PM
I have to agree. This is something we must remember. Thank you for the post. They would not attack us if we were not winning.

hard@work
10-22-2007, 05:10 PM
It is something we can't just remember, we have to act on it. They're floundering. We need to strike back.

;)

ItsTime
10-22-2007, 05:12 PM
They have been running in place for a long time while we have been sprinting ahead. :D


It is something we can't just remember, we have to act on it. They're floundering. We need to strike back.

;)

werdd
10-22-2007, 05:12 PM
its becoming increasingly obvious every day... they are more or less fighting us now, and we are going to win.

erowe1
10-22-2007, 05:12 PM
My trick is to turn other people's negativity into my amusement. It works every time.

Speaking of which, everybody remember the change of plans. If you are sitting on money that you were going to donate on Nov. 5th and you're able to do it now, do it now.

spivey378
10-22-2007, 05:14 PM
fight stage. it will get worse. they are trying to divide us as well.

Mark
10-22-2007, 05:19 PM
fight stage. it will get worse. they are trying to divide us as well.

EXACTLY.. 'ringers' or whatever...

WE MUST CONCENTRATE ON THE GOAL NOW MORE THAN EVER..

F O C U S !!! Please.. :)

steph3n
10-22-2007, 05:20 PM
people need to stop petty fighting :(

john_anderson_ii
10-22-2007, 05:20 PM
We can't do this talking to each other about it on this forum either. We need to bring some new blood with new wallets to this campaign and fast.

terlinguatx
10-22-2007, 05:21 PM
...

klamath
10-22-2007, 05:28 PM
Well said!

TVMH
10-22-2007, 05:40 PM
Nicely done!

I have two suggestions:

1) Stop wasting time indulging the FReetards (I know that's crass, but gosh, it's so funny);

2) Whenever someone says outright that Dr. Paul has not shot at winning, ask them how they know that to be true.

hard@work
10-22-2007, 06:19 PM
Do whatever you can to keep the actual message going. Talk policy and effect now. Causality is the key. Talk about the policies, call the chickenhawks for what they are, talk about the dodging of the economic policy positions we have, talk about everything all the time. Do not spend any time saying emotional positives without talking about logical positions. If you must defend against negativity without substance (insults, assumptions, stereotypes, misinformation, and lies) do so with policy points and make sure you are talking about how the other candidates:

a. Do not really say anything.
b. Avoid the truth on: economics, war, foreign policy, etc.
c. Dodge the issues Ron Paul addresses head on, never fearing a question and never avoiding giving a direct answer.

Whatever your first love in politics or passion is, make sure you read up. Study these issues, but do not just study our side. Learn the arguments, learn the oppositions positions, and most importantly find the root causes of everything you come across. Do not walk into this battle without being not only the most informed, but the most prepared to debate. And remember - he who insults first is the one with the least substance. It is much easier to point out an insult as an unfortunate failure on the other parties discussion!


Above all else stop leaving positive comments and start leaving information on policies avoided by the others and supported by our movement! Cause and effect, information vs. emotion!!

Bradley in DC
10-22-2007, 06:24 PM
Exactly. Welcome to the big time. We're just starting--and so are they!

Energy
10-22-2007, 06:34 PM
Excellent points!

And encourage people to wake up and question what they see and hear.

RP4ME
10-22-2007, 06:54 PM
totally agree that debate made it so obvious.....YAY!

ItsTime
10-22-2007, 06:55 PM
Quoted for truth


Exactly. Welcome to the big time. We're just starting--and so are they!