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Bergie Bergeron
02-02-2011, 02:33 PM
Taken from Imperial's blog

It really is important to go vote here (http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/) and get New Mexico (FOR SENATE) polled. PPP has been doing their polls in an interesting manner lately.

Remember all of the buzz about Ron Paul running for Senate? While it appears that he will end up not pulling the trigger on that run, it did force the pundits to do something interesting: Dr. Paul was in the news. The blogosphere lit up with mentions of the good doctor possibly running for Senate and being a frontrunner. A strong performance like this, against some of the biggest politicos in Texas today, gave him something that is sadly and wrongly lacking sometimes for our movement: legitimacy.

With legitimacy, we gain the attention of the media and the movers in politics. It is this perception that, yes, small-l libertarians are electable and are a force to be reckoned with.

The other beneficial aspect to this: it sent a message to Dr. Paul as well. He seriously considered a run when he was surprised by such a strong showing. Although he will likely not elect to run in that race, it also sends our candidate a message: if you work hard and make a name, you can become a player. This cannot hurt our chances for Dr. Paul getting a promotion!

So why bother to go vote for New Mexico to get polled? For primaries, PPP has been doing the 'jungle primary' - take all of the big names in a given state in a given party, and see how they do against each other. I don't see how Gary Johnson is NOT included in this, being the last GOP Governor before Susana Martinez. But there is basically nobody I see dominating the primary. From one of my comments at SSP:


We already saw Steve Pearce run in two statewide bids before, once losing in the primary and once getting smashed by Udall.
Domenici Jr. showed he faltered pretty badly in the Republican primary this year for Governor, which was his to lose. Allen Weh might be able to make a bid, but he lacks huge name recognition and has some bad dirt from the one attorney that was fired after a conversation with a White House aide.

True, I see Pearce and ex-Rep. Heather Wilson (who left office in 2008) as having a bit of lingering name recognition, but Gary Johnson would be performing extremely well anyway for representing the entire state for 8 years not so long ago.

So if we get PPP to poll New Mexico and show Gary Johnson polling strongly in the primary and quite possibly the general, we generate a bit of buzz and get some respect for Gary Johnson. This cannot be a bad thing for us- we need somebody other than just Ron and Rand who, as an experienced office-holder, can give us a bully pulpit on the national stage. Johnson fills a niche Rand cannot, since Rand frames his comments to conservatives and Johnson frames his to moderates.

However, there is another benefit- to show Gary that he can win the Senate race. He knows the last polls showed him weak in the primary thus far for President. However, if he has a Senate seat waiting for his coronation- that is another thing entirely than taking a gamble. If we want to augment Gary's profile while clearing the field for Dr. Paul, we HAVE to get New Mexico polled.

Go vote! (http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/)

PS: Incumbent Jeff Bingaman ended the financial quarter with only $500k in the bank- anemic for an incumbent Senator. A comparable example would be Jim Bunning before he withdrew from his re-election bid. Thus, it looks like we may be dealing with an open seat!

PS2: Here is a list of reasons (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?248281-Gary-Johnson-in-2012...-for-US-Senate) I wrote up a year ago as to why a Gary Johnson senatorial bid would be so effective.


1) He is their former two-term governor. Name recognition will be ZERO problem in New Mexico (something Johnson has struggled with nationwide).

2) A statewide election is much cheaper than the presidential election. We can help fund it and Johnson can actually make a difference with his own coffers too.

3) The incumbent, Jeff Bingaman, is rumored to be retiring in 2012. Johnson entering the race would likely seal the deal on his retirement, creating an open seat. (Open seats are MUCH easier to win than stealing it from an incumbent).

4) Coattails. If Johnson runs, he can endorse Adam Kokesh in NM-03 if Adam runs again and help a liberty candidate rally the votes.

5) People will notice Johnson running for Senate in New Mexico. He could endorse Ron Paul for president and help get our guy some press.

6) Another Senator would help Rand Paul in the Senate and give our movement another high-profile victory.

Finally 7) A term in the Senate could help set Johnson up for a future run for President if he wanted it, once he was back in the political limelight.

TCE
02-02-2011, 02:39 PM
Definitely worthy of attention. Also go here: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2799451770086337664&postID=6746870799078099402 and say you want Gary Johnson included in the New Mexico poll. Last time PPP polled Texas but Debra Medina WAS NOT included.

sailingaway
02-02-2011, 02:58 PM
When they put Gary in they don't put Ron in, though. I'd rather have Ron in.

TCE
02-02-2011, 03:02 PM
When they put Gary in they don't put Ron in, though. I'd rather have Ron in.

This is for the New Mexico Senate Race, not Presidential race.

Bergie Bergeron
02-02-2011, 03:09 PM
This is for the New Mexico Senate Race, not Presidential race.
What he said ;)

sailingaway
02-02-2011, 03:20 PM
What he said ;)

LOL!

OK, on that I'm in. I'm pissed at PPP for not putting Ron in its head to head polls against Obama, and that was on my mind.

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edit, ok voted NM and commented they should poll for GJ as Senate candidate. Will likely take a while to come up, though.

jt8025
02-02-2011, 03:40 PM
done

Bergie Bergeron
02-02-2011, 03:49 PM
21% !

Bergie Bergeron
02-02-2011, 04:02 PM
23%, tied at the top.

libertybrewcity
02-02-2011, 04:32 PM
up to 25%. How do you know they are going to poll Gary Johnson?

Bergie Bergeron
02-02-2011, 04:40 PM
Enough people must ask them in the comments: http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot. com/2011/01/this-weeks-finalists.html

TCE
02-02-2011, 05:49 PM
up to 25%. How do you know they are going to poll Gary Johnson?

Yep, what Bergie said.

Sailing: That pisses me off, too, but hey, we can assume rightfully that the percentage nationally is somewhere between 4-11% if we take both extremes, and if he announces, they have to include him. Winning the CPAC straw poll should definitely bump us up at least 0.25% nationally and it will get Dr. Paul some free exposure.

PermanentSleep
02-02-2011, 06:23 PM
Voted and commented. :collins:

Bergie Bergeron
02-02-2011, 07:58 PM
23%, bump..

TCE
02-02-2011, 08:29 PM
We are once again slightly ahead. Rock on Liberty Forest!

Bergie Bergeron
02-02-2011, 09:05 PM
Don't forget to ask them to poll Johnson.

Bergie Bergeron
02-02-2011, 11:07 PM
Votes will finish in a couple of hours.

Bergie Bergeron
02-03-2011, 12:07 AM
Uh-oh, New Mexico is falling back.

TCE
02-03-2011, 12:10 AM
Must say, the map is pretty cool, apparently, we've won five states or so.

Bergie Bergeron
02-03-2011, 10:03 AM
Bump. Please ask them to include Johnson for New Mexico here: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2799451770086337664&postID=6746870799078099402