DHS Shuts Down ATDHE (Popular streaming site)

[jmhudak17]

I don't have a link to an article yet but it's all over the internet. It was a site for streaming sports and TV that was seized by the Department of Homeland Security.

[devil21]

Wow that sucks, I watch hockey games there. So Homeland Security is enforcing copyright law now?

Their website now says it will be back up tomorrow on a different domain http://88.80.11.29

[Deborah K]

Is this due to net neutrality?

[Depressed Liberator]

Is this due to net neutrality?

wat

[DXDoug]

wonder when they will go after alll the warez and torrent sites

[devil21]

wonder when they will go after alll the warez and torrent sites

Or RPF and ATS and other sites...

Only a matter of time if they're allowed to continue closing websites without any sort of due process.

[Deborah K]

wat

Is the shut-down of this site in the OP due to net neutrality?

net neutrality meaning the gov't regulates equal access for all internet providers.

[Kludge]

DHS/ICE did another round of shut-downs today. They also shut down a SPANISH website the Spanish gov't ruled legal. Not sure if they're trying to be provocative or just prove ICANN needs to be replaced by something not controlled by the USG. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?277528-Homeland-Security-Seizes-Spanish-Domain-Name-That-Had-Already-Been-Declared-Legal


Here's the only story I've been able to find on the most recent wave of seizures -- it's in Spanish: http://www.abc.es/20110201/medios-redes/abci-eeuu-cierra-roja-directa-201102011527.html

[Kludge]

Is the shut-down of this site in the OP due to net neutrality?

net neutrality meaning the gov't regulates equal access for all internet providers.

And no, this was DMCA bullshit - claims of the websites violating copyright laws.

[Deborah K]

DHS/ICE did another round of shut-downs today. They also shut down a SPANISH website the Spanish gov't ruled legal. Not sure if they're trying to be provocative or just prove ICANN needs to be replaced by something not controlled by the USG. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?277528-Homeland-Security-Seizes-Spanish-Domain-Name-That-Had-Already-Been-Declared-Legal


Here's the only story I've been able to find on the most recent wave of seizures -- it's in Spanish: http://www.abc.es/20110201/medios-redes/abci-eeuu-cierra-roja-directa-201102011527.html

So, these shut-downs are seperate from the recently approved net-neutrality? Just trying to learn something here.

Edit: okay, got it.

[Deborah K]

When did DHS get into the business of internet copyright laws?

[HOLLYWOOD]

DHS...They're the BORG It's says it was seized by ICE!

http://atdhe.net/


When did DHS get into the business of internet copyright laws?




omain name: atdhe.net Registrant Contact: WhoisGuard WhoisGuard Protected () Fax: 8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd. #110 - 732 Westchester, CA 90045 US Administrative Contact: WhoisGuard WhoisGuard Protected (eb27de4916b64c6fbc9991132e5894f7.protect@whoisgua rd.com) +1.6613102107 Fax: +1.6613102107 8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd. #110 - 732 Westchester, CA 90045 US Technical Contact: WhoisGuard WhoisGuard Protected (eb27de4916b64c6fbc9991132e5894f7.protect@whoisgua rd.com) +1.6613102107 Fax: +1.6613102107 8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd. #110 - 732 Westchester, CA 90045 US Status: Locked Name Servers: ns.prq.se ns2.prq.se

[eduardo89]

I just realized this...was going to watch the Canucks game tonight and the site is gone. :(

[pcosmar]

And no, this was DMCA bullshit - claims of the websites violating copyright laws.

And that has what to do with "Homeland Security?

[Kludge]

And that has what to do with "Homeland Security?

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is a branch of DHS for reasons over my head.

http://www.devoteamconsultingtem.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/48z9s2w.gif

If someone has time, that should be updated for Terrorism.

[Depressed Liberator]

Site isn't gone. Check out their twitter for a new link.

[Anti Federalist]

http://imagesarchive.org/archive/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/5360afa023YU3Ww.jpg-500x362.jpg

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://atdhenet.tv/

[hotbrownsauce]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/48692.html

I'm still not getting the full scoop here.

Someone help me out here...

Were any of these sites charged with crimes and were judges involved in allowing the government to seize the websites? Are they being prosecuted and aren't they innocent until proven guilty in the court of law in front of a jury of their peers?

For some reason I'm thinking there was something passed either by law or by a bureaucrat that says the government can just take over suspected illegal sites.

[Kludge]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/48692.html

I'm still not getting the full scoop here.

Someone help me out here...

Were any of these sites charged with crimes and were judges involved in allowing the government to seize the websites? Are they being prosecuted and aren't they innocent until proven guilty in the court of law in front of a jury of their peers?

The admins will likely be charged and face up to 5 years imprisonment for their crimes of reproducing/redistributing copyrighted material. The domain takedown, however, only needs a warrant to go through, where a "special agent" proves to a judge the websites are guilty of criminal activity.

It's come out that the recent seizures were part of a "Super Bowl Crackdown."

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/48692.html

I'm still not getting the full scoop here.

Someone help me out here...

Were any of these sites charged with crimes

No



and were judges involved in allowing the government to seize the websites?

No



Are they being prosecuted

No



and aren't they innocent until proven guilty in the court of law in front of a jury of their peers?

GET REAL! - That is like soooo year 2000. Wake up and smell the police state that is our modern society! Keeping us "safe" from the tearoarists is the "in" thing today!


For some reason I'm thinking there was something passed either by law or by a bureaucrat that says the government can just take over suspected illegal sites.

bureaucrat

and accusation is enough - it's the digital version of eminent domain on steroids!

-t

[hotbrownsauce]

hmmm I found a little something here

http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-seizes-sports-streaming-sites-in-super-bowl-crackdown-110202/


With the recent domain seizures, however, the US authorities have a much more powerful tool in hand to take action against sites they deem to be illegal. Without contacting the site owners – who are mostly foreign and host their sites outside of the US – they simply obtain a seizure warrant from a District Court judge and use this to take control over the domains in question. This questionable process grants the US censorship powers over a great part of the Internet, which it is using to protect the commercial interests of media and sports outfits.

It appears some of these sites have been ruled LEGAL in the countries they rely in. Some of the servers do not operate in the U.S. and they do not actually hold the illegal material themselves. It however seems the addresses to the websites are controlled by U.S. based companies which allows the government a way in.

[Kludge]

hmmm I found a little something here

http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-seizes-sports-streaming-sites-in-super-bowl-crackdown-110202/



It appears some of these sites have been ruled LEGAL in the countries they rely in. Some of the servers do not operate in the U.S. and they do not actually hold the illegal material themselves. It however seems the addresses to the websites are controlled by U.S. based companies which allows the government a way in.

Right. The company is ICANN, the people you pay fees to when you register a domain. The US controls the Internet because they're able to get everyone else to submit to ICANN, which essentially holds and distributes all the domains on the Internet, converting IP addresses into names (ronpaulforums.com for example, is 67.225.158.173). IIRC, domains used to be handled by the USG directly. ICANN is unnecessary to the Internet, however. Risky companies should begin going on alternate DNS roots. They've gone out of public favor because nobody seems willing to use them, but they'll be a necessity as ICANN (pressured by USG interests) continues to prove itself an inept and tyrannical controller of the Internet.

Keep in mind the website servers themselves are not being shut down, only the domain address they purchased being revoked and frozen by the USG.

[Nate-ForLiberty]

now what upcoming super duper uber ultra mega popular sports event that is broadcast worldwide could cause the DHS to shutdown a popular TV streaming site?

hmmmmmmm.... isn't that "event" this Sunday?

[tangent4ronpaul]

Brother - can you spare an ICBM?

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[hotbrownsauce]

Hmm okay so my thoughts were correct. This means the ip address to the server should still work. It's just the domain-ip translation that is screwed up.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Could someone point out the part of the Constitution that allows the US Gvmt to dictate it's laws and regulations to the rest of the world? - I can't seem to find it...

-t

[hotbrownsauce]

Why didn't they take down thepiratebay? You'd think that would be high on the priority list.

[Kludge]

Why didn't they take down thepiratebay? You'd think that would be high on the priority list.

TPB's been taken down a few times and the founders sentenced to prison - and TPB was always put back up almost immediately after.

The USG is playing whac-a-mole. It will never have any effect except in cases where they try to hit the sites immediately before a big event -- Christmas in the last case, the Super Bowl in this case. Even when they do that, the effect is probably insignificant except to rally people against the USG's policing of the Internet.

[hotbrownsauce]

Thanks kludge.

[RonPaulwillWin]

There are more sites like that. I have a txt file on my computer to dig up


premier--games.net

http://www.vipstand.me/sports/ufc.html

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/

atdhe.net

http://mrbrownee70.com/

http://ipb.quicksilverscreen.com/

[hotbrownsauce]

Kludge I was thinking. If the USG took over thepiratebay wouldn't they have to obtain a different domain name??? This means the USG hasn't approached them in the same way.... or am I missing something?

[Kludge]

Kludge I was thinking. If the USG took over thepiratebay wouldn't they have to obtain a different domain name??? This means the USG hasn't approached them in the same way.... or am I missing something?

You're right. In TPB cases, they were actually physically raided and had their servers confiscated. The USG hadn't started with their ICANN domain seizing bullshit yet when this was going on a few years ago. They've (MPAA I think) also sued TPB's Internet connection provider to take them down. Obviously, they simply switched ISPs. - And then they simply had the founders of TPB arrested and convicted. None of the actions of the MPAA or various involved governments have done anything to prevent piracy.

[RonPaulwillWin]

Wow, didn't even realize that was my 1,000th post. I consider myself a lurker. Time flies.

[Kludge]

No kidding :x

[hotbrownsauce]

No more freedom of speech sorry America.

[hotbrownsauce]

I was just reminded that speech leading to an imminent lawless action is illegal. So I can't blame them for taking down the sites.