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Adolfo Mena Gonzalez
02-01-2011, 01:01 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8284223/Himalayan-glaciers-not-melting-because-of-climate-change-report-finds.html

Researchers have discovered that contrary to popular belief half of the ice flows in the Karakoram range of the mountains are actually growing rather than shrinking.
The discovery adds a new twist to the row over whether global warming is causing the world's highest mountain range to lose its ice cover.
It further challenges claims made in a 2007 report by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that the glaciers would be gone by 2035.
Although the head of the panel Dr Rajendra Pachauri later admitted the claim was an error gleaned from unchecked research, he maintained that global warming was melting the glaciers at "a rapid rate", threatening floods throughout north India.
The new study by scientists at the Universities of California and Potsdam has found that half of the glaciers in the Karakoram range, in the northwestern Himlaya, are in fact advancing and that global warming is not the deciding factor in whether a glacier survives or melts.

Dr Bodo Bookhagen, Dirk Scherler and Manfred Strecker studied 286 glaciers between the Hindu Kush on the Afghan-Pakistan border to Bhutan, taking in six areas.
Their report, published in the journal Nature Geoscience, found the key factor affecting their advance or retreat is the amount of debris – rocks and mud – strewn on their surface, not the general nature of climate change.
Glaciers surrounded by high mountains and covered with more than two centimetres of debris are protected from melting.
Debris-covered glaciers are common in the rugged central Himalaya, but they are almost absent in subdued landscapes on the Tibetan Plateau, where retreat rates are higher.
In contrast, more than 50 per cent of observed glaciers in the Karakoram region in the northwestern Himalaya are advancing or stable.
"Our study shows that there is no uniform response of Himalayan glaciers to climate change and highlights the importance of debris cover for understanding glacier retreat, an effect that has so far been neglected in predictions of future water availability or global sea level," the authors concluded.
Dr Bookhagen said their report had shown "there is no stereotypical Himalayan glacier" in contrast to the UN's climate change report which, he said, "lumps all Himalayan glaciers together."
Dr Pachauri, head of the Nobel prize-winning UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, has remained silent on the matter since he was forced to admit his report's claim that the Himalayan glaciers would melt by 2035 was an error and had not been sourced from a peer-reviewed scientific journal. It came from a World Wildlife Fund report.
He angered India's environment minister and the country's leading glaciologist when he attacked those who questioned his claim as purveyors of "voodoo science".
The environment Minister Jairam Ramesh had cited research indicating some Himalayan glaciers were advancing in the face of the UN's claim.

dannno
02-01-2011, 01:45 AM
Hey look, it's my favorite mountain range.

http://www.imadedinner.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/drooling-homer-simpson.jpg



Hindu Kush [mountain range]

Hindu Kush:

http://www.marijuana-seeds.nl/Hindu-Kush.jpg



Afghan-Pakistan

Af-Pak:

http://www.canadianhempco.com/canadianhempimages/Afpak%20marijuana%20seeds.jpg


FFRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSS STTTTYYY!!!

http://geektyrant.com/storage/post-images/CArrey.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=127963690685 2

dannno
02-01-2011, 11:00 AM
bump cause global warming is BS

Bruno
02-01-2011, 12:15 PM
Indeed, sir, it is! Nice pics. :)

dannno
02-01-2011, 01:00 PM
This article shows more IPCC fraud, great to send to people who you may have been debating with about climategate some time ago.

fisharmor
02-01-2011, 01:09 PM
Heh... I was just thinking last night,
The first time I smoked pot, I realized that they were lying to me about it.
Now I smoke pot to forget that they lied about everything else, too.

Bruno
02-01-2011, 01:14 PM
Heh... I was just thinking last night,
The first time I smoked pot, I realized that they were lying to me about it.
Now I smoke pot to forget that they lied about everything else, too.

+ rep

I had the exact same experience my first time. It made me wonder what other drugs they were lying about, which can be a dangerous position to be in.

dannno
02-01-2011, 01:14 PM
I'm glad we were able to get some of those land-race strains out of that area before it became militarily occupied..

I wonder how much is left over there.

Stary Hickory
02-01-2011, 01:14 PM
bump cause global warming is BS

Did you not get the memo man? Its CLIMATE CHANGE!!

They are sick of people calling them on their bs. When they were yelling armagedon about global cooling, it got warm here and there and they looked like fools, a now global warming has been proven to be a fraud....so now it's CLIMATE CHANGE!!! No matter what happens they can never be wrong again!

Oh and lets not forget about the hole in the ozone layer, that USED to be the big boogie man.....and now it's not. Their track record is terrible, and this latest gimick of calling it simply climate change is just ridiculous.