Egypt, Looters are Government Thugs

[pcosmar]

Several Tweets,
And just reported on Al Jazeera.

People caught looters in Cairo and found with them ID cards showing they were from the government security apparatus

Al Jazeera hearing that some "looters" are with security services. Setting up conditions for a crackdown?

No police on the streets? Yes there are, they are the trouble makers.

http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Egypt
tweets move fast. these lines are smokin'.

[mczerone]

I thought there was something fishy going on while going through those photos from tcp (http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/01/the-egypt-protests/). Every time someone is being restrained it's captioned as "plainclothes officer(s)" doing the restraining. But everyone is wearing similar clothes, no one is wearing a badge or ID. Why couldn't it have been civilians restraining their own who had crossed the line?

I'm at the point that anytime I see violence erupt from a protest, against persons or property, I assume its a provocateur until proven otherwise.

[pcosmar]

: Reports of suspected looter killed by unknown persons in Heliopolis. Police ID reported found on body.

Makes me wonder.
The Cairo Museum was vandalized. but the only footage was of Government Security forces inside.
And was broadcast by State TV.
This was taken before the Security forces were withdrawn.
I have seen photos of Protesters guarding the museum and others of Army and Civilians guarding the museum.

The protests have targeted Regime buildings and a couple Regime connected businesses, but have mostly been peaceful.
Government Security Forces have not.
The Army has been seen protecting protesters from the regime Security Forces.

I have to wonder if the museum was damaged deliberately to place blame on protesters.

[Vessol]

When I first heard about looters attacking the Egyptian museum, I was deeply saddened. While the loss of life certainly is horrible there as well, I have to admit that to lose mummies and artifacts from one of our earliest civilizations is just as devastating.

Last I heard, Egyptian civilians have formed a militia to protect the museum.

[pcosmar]

When I first heard about looters attacking the Egyptian museum, I was deeply saddened. While the loss of life certainly is horrible there as well, I have to admit that to lose mummies and artifacts from one of our earliest civilizations is just as devastating.

Last I heard, Egyptian civilians have formed a militia to protect the museum.

I have seen several photos of that.
Some with just civilians and one with an Army Tank and civilians.
I think the damage happened earlier when the Security Forces were still in control.

http://reallyfreeschool.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/DPP_00012.jpg
http://yfrog.com/h7h2fwj

[awake]

Read Hoppe on this... the State must promote looting on a mass scale... Read why. (http://www.lewrockwell.com/hoppe/hoppe8.html)

[brandon]

Here's a link I found:
http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/29/mubarak%E2%80%99s-secret-police-thugs-try-to-disupt-revolution/

[pcosmar]

Much more of the same in this article,
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/01/29/egypt-government-thugs-involved-in-looting-lawlessness/

DO NOT believe the MSM when they spin this a violent protesters.

[pcosmar]

Counter propaganda bump

[Andrew-Austin]

I have seen several photos of that.
Some with just civilians and one with an Army Tank and civilians.
I think the damage happened earlier when the Security Forces were still in control.

http://reallyfreeschool.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/DPP_00012.jpg
http://yfrog.com/h7h2fwj

Am I the only one that sees a little irony in this.

They protest their parasitic government today, but protect the antiquities of the ruling class that lorded over ancient Egypt.

Not that I think anything should happen to the museum, but still.

But what are they protecting in it? The mummified bodies of ancient parasites, the Mubarak's of ancient Egypt, and their royal nick-nacks.

The history of ancient Egypt is something to take interest in, but not look positively at as "rich culture" like some do.

[amy31416]

http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_30.jpg

http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_59.jpg

http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_78.jpg

http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_80.jpg

http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_88.jpg

Some pretty amazing pictures, there's a lot more that are worth looking through. http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/01/the-egypt-protests/

[amy31416]

Am I the only one that sees a little irony in this.

They protest their parasitic government today, but protect the antiquities of the ruling class that lorded over ancient Egypt.

Not that I think anything should happen to the museum, but still.

But what are they protecting in it? The mummified bodies of ancient parasites, the Mubarak's of ancient Egypt, and their royal nick-nacks.

The history of ancient Egypt is something to take interest in, but not look positively at as "rich culture" like some do.

I could not disagree with you more...if you've ever been to a display of ancient Egyptian artifacts, many of them are items owned by the poor, the slaves, and the workers--and those are even more fascinating than the gilded tombs and mummies with herbs shoved in every orifice. Though the mummies are probably quite interesting from a scientific viewpoint.

A huge part of Egypt's identity is because of their amazing history, both the bad and the good. Should a black American burn the original US Constitution because of the issue with slavery? Should American Indians? I don't think so...it's part of our history and maybe, just maybe, someone can learn from it.

I'm really astounded that you see it that way.

[amy31416]

Someone on the forum requested this pic, I think:

http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_96.jpg

[Kylie]

Someone on the forum requested this pic, I think:

http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_96.jpg







There is this little saying I made up a few years ago. It fits this well, I think.



Truth.

You cannot get around her.
She is the Mother of Justice,
and a sister to Hope.


This could go in any direction, I pray it's in a positive manner.

[QueenB4Liberty]

Someone on the forum requested this pic, I think:

http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_96.jpg

Great picture!

[ibaghdadi]

Back to the OP, yes it's confirmed that looters are mostly criminals that the police released from jail (some were on death row), and yes looters with secret police IDs were caught all over Egypt. It seems it was a plan by Mubarak to create an atmosphere of security breakdown to make the people turn on the demonstrators.

It obviously backfired as the people started to take care of their own security, traffic, and even trash collection, and they did it so well that they realized they don't need the police after all. When the police tried to return (yesterday), they didn't even let them back in.

They realized they're better off taking care of themselves.

Just watch this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5GSfSRY2PQ&feature=player_embedded

[ronpaulhawaii]

Starting to hit MSM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/01/AR2011020100903.html


CAIRO - Human Rights Watch confirmed several cases of undercover police loyal to Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's regime committing acts of violence and looting in an attempt to stoke fear of instability