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BamaFanNKy
01-25-2011, 04:50 PM
It came in an email.

Nate-ForLiberty
01-25-2011, 04:52 PM
It came in an email.

don't ask, just do. power of the interwebs.

MRoCkEd
01-25-2011, 04:52 PM
http://scribd.com

BamaFanNKy
01-25-2011, 04:56 PM
Hold up. Just been told it will be on his website and on facebook shortly. Press release said this:

WASHINGTON, D.C. – In the face of an ever-expanding national debt, newly elected Senator Rand Paul is taking a bold and proactive step in protecting our national security and lowering our deficit. By introducing $500 billion in spending cuts today – to be enacted over one year – Sen. Paul is starting an important conversation with his Senate colleagues about how to fix our nation’s current economic situation.

“I am proud to introduce my own solution to the mounting debt our spendthrift, oversized government has accrued. By rolling back to 2008 levels and eliminating the most wasteful programs, we can still keep 85 percent of our government funding in place,” Sen. Paul said today.

“By removing programs that are beyond the constitutional role of the federal government, such as education and housing, we are cutting nearly 40 percent of our projected deficit and removing the big-government bureaucrats who stand in the way of efficiency in our federal government,” he continued.

BamaFanNKy
01-25-2011, 04:57 PM
Here we go: http://www.randpaul2010.com/2011/01/senator-paul-introduces-500-billion-in-spending-cuts/

Brett85
01-25-2011, 04:58 PM
It's impressive that he's cutting housing.

BamaFanNKy
01-25-2011, 05:01 PM
It's impressive that he's cutting housing.

Yeah. Now all the posers who talked trash about him being serious need to hush it.

specsaregood
01-25-2011, 05:10 PM
Affordable Housing Program – Eliminated
Commission on Fine Arts – Eliminated
Consumer Product Safety Commission – Eliminated
Corporation for Public Broadcasting – Eliminated
National Endowment of Arts – Eliminated
National Endowment for Humanities – Eliminated
Privative the Smithsonian Institution – Privatized
State Justice Institute - Eliminated

I would have been a bit happier if he proposed cutting the DOD budget a bit more then 47billion though.

Brett85
01-25-2011, 05:13 PM
I would have been a bit happier if he proposed cutting the DOD budget a bit more then 47billion though.

Yeah, but the neocons will go crazy about cutting just 47 billion. It's a start.

specsaregood
01-25-2011, 05:15 PM
Yeah, but the neocons will go crazy about cutting just 47 billion. It's a start.

True enough, plus another 24billion from homeland security. It is definitely a start.

Guitarzan
01-25-2011, 05:16 PM
Impressive.

sailingaway
01-25-2011, 05:19 PM
I would have been a bit happier if he proposed cutting the DOD budget a bit more then 47billion though.

Yeah. I think he doesn't want to be out there all alone on his limb. I'm pretty sure he'll always be the one in the Senate pushing the envelope, however.

sailingaway
01-25-2011, 05:20 PM
True enough, plus another 24billion from homeland security. It is definitely a start.

How much does TSA cost?

sailingaway
01-25-2011, 05:24 PM
People on DP think this is appropriate for submitting to Drudge. I agreed, so I did. It might or might not take more than a few of us; this is news.

specsaregood
01-25-2011, 05:25 PM
How much does TSA cost?

Dunno but this is what is in the overview:


Agency/Program Funding Level Savings % Decrease
Homeland Security $30.958 $23.765 B 43%

The Department Homeland Security was created after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and since then has
been plagued by waste, fraud, and extensive bureaucracy. The proposal transfers the United States Coast Guard to
the Department of Defense, reduces Transportation Security Administration funding, and decreases remaining
program funding to FY2008 levels.

Transportation Security Administration: Reduce 40 Percent

Following the 9/11 attacks, the Transportation Safety Administration has provided the majority of airport security
screeners across the country. A number of airports however, (17 in a recent count) have replaced TSA screeners with
private contractors. Kansas City International Airport was the first airport to use private screeners as opposed to the
TSA. Kansas City Airport director Mark VanLoh said in an NPR article, “In my opinion, these contract employees –
they’re not federal employees; they’re not guaranteed a job for life. If they don’t meet performance goals, or maybe
they’re consistently rude, or maybe they miss objects that go through the machine, they are terminated.”

Matt Collins
01-25-2011, 05:29 PM
He discusses it in this video:






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E49nmWpY4g&feature=player_embedded

Jeremy Tyler
01-25-2011, 05:33 PM
Some guy on facebook claimed I was an idiot for two reasons : 1. because he said Paul was a fraud because he took the dept of edu. off the table (which he didn't just did not eliminate all of it). But other reason and the reason I am even posting this is because the guy said paul released this friday and I was just finding out. This is the first
I am seeing it. Was it really released friday?

sailingaway
01-25-2011, 05:35 PM
Dunno but this is what is in the overview:

There you go. Another 60% just waiting to be eliminated.....

sailingaway
01-25-2011, 05:36 PM
Some guy on facebook claimed I was an idiot for two reasons : 1. because he said Paul was a fraud because he took the dept of edu. off the table (which he didn't just did not eliminate all of it). But other reason and the reason I am even posting this is because the guy said paul released this friday and I was just finding out. This is the first
I am seeing it. Was it really released friday?

No, he spoke about it Friday and the 'guy' doesn't know the difference.

low preference guy
01-25-2011, 05:37 PM
nice to see a proposal to cut foreign aid 100%.

the "aid" actually makes them worse off, as it goes to expand their governments and enrich corrupt politicians, just like the money the U.S. borrows from the chinese is used to expand the government.

sailingaway
01-25-2011, 05:42 PM
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/01/exclusive-president-obama-to-propose-budget-freeze-and-earmark-ban-tonight.html :rolleyes:

This would save $26 billion over 5 years, of INCREASE. http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110125/us_yblog_thelookout/obama-to-call-for-spending-freeze-but-major-items-unaffected

The interest on the debt is $4 billion a DAY.

h/t Drudge

specsaregood
01-25-2011, 05:50 PM
nice to see a proposal to cut foreign aid 100%.

the "aid" actually makes them worse off, as it goes to expand their governments and enrich corrupt politicians, just like the money the U.S. borrows from the chinese is used to expand the government.

It is a winning position as well. I remember Glenn Beck showed a poll last year that showed something around 70% of americans supported eliminating foreign aid.

sailingaway
01-25-2011, 05:54 PM
LOL!

How many Senators quote Bastiat in their 'bill overview white papers' I wonder?


“The law is the organization of the natural right of lawful defense. It is the substitution of a common force for
individual forces. And this common force is to do only what the individual forces have a natural and lawful right to do:
protect persons, liberties, and properties; to maintain the right of each and to cause justice to reign over us all.”
--Frederic Bastiat

Guitarzan
01-25-2011, 05:56 PM
LOL!

How many Senators quote Bastiat in their 'bill overview white papers' I wonder?


Yeah I liked that too. A better question may be, how many sitting senators have even heard of Bastiat.

low preference guy
01-25-2011, 05:58 PM
LOL!

How many Senators quote Bastiat in their 'bill overview white papers' I wonder?

i was glad to read that too!

take every opportunity to make bastiat popular! helping people realize the organization of our society is based on theft can't be bad!

specsaregood
01-25-2011, 06:04 PM
Lol @

agency/program funding level savings % decrease
GSA $343 m $1.936 b 85%

The government services administration is yet another example of a government agency formed with the purpose of
serving other government agencies.

dannno
01-25-2011, 06:04 PM
nice to see a proposal to cut foreign aid 100%.


Israel too?

Wow.

Nate-ForLiberty
01-25-2011, 06:06 PM
"Collect delinquent taxes from Federal Employees, $3,000,000,000"

damn. :)

sec 27.1

BamaFanNKy
01-25-2011, 06:13 PM
I love Think Progress. They use this as a bad thing:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmkxmBaU5dM

What is comical this move saves us more than the $500 Billion.

Brett85
01-25-2011, 06:15 PM
It is a winning position as well. I remember Glenn Beck showed a poll last year that showed something around 70% of americans supported eliminating foreign aid.

I don't see where it says that foreign aid is completely eliminated. The proposal just shows a 71% decrease in the "State" budget.

dannno
01-25-2011, 06:15 PM
"Collect delinquent taxes from Federal Employees, $3,000,000,000"

damn. :)

sec 27.1

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/pwnt-31487.jpg

BamaFanNKy
01-25-2011, 06:26 PM
Eliminating the "Office of Justice." Is that ending the drug war?

sailingaway
01-25-2011, 06:45 PM
Eliminating the "Office of Justice." Is that ending the drug war?

The Office of Justice: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/

Sure looks ripe for eliminating, to me.....


About Us

The Office of Justice Programs (OJP) provides innovative leadership to federal, state, local, and tribal justice systems, by disseminating state-of-the art knowledge and practices across America, and providing grants for the implementation of these crime fighting strategies. Because most of the responsibility for crime control and prevention falls to law enforcement officers in states, cities, and neighborhoods, the federal government can be effective in these areas only to the extent that it can enter into partnerships with these officers. Therefore, OJP does not directly carry out law enforcement and justice activities. Instead, OJP works in partnership with the justice community to identify the most pressing crime-related challenges confronting the justice system and to provide information, training, coordination, and innovative strategies and approaches for addressing these challenges.

Apparently it is a sort of federal busy body.

Brett85
01-25-2011, 06:50 PM
I think Mike Lee is the only other Senator who would even vote for this.

dannno
01-25-2011, 06:55 PM
I just figured it out.

Rand Paul is a goal post.

Ron Paul is the goal.

low preference guy
01-25-2011, 07:11 PM
I don't see where it says that foreign aid is completely eliminated. The proposal just shows a 71% decrease in the "State" budget.

they cut 100% of "International Assistance Programs". i thought that was foreign aid. page 29 here (http://www.randpaul2010.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Overview-500-billion-cuts-2.pdf).

Brett85
01-25-2011, 07:16 PM
they cut 100% of "International Assistance Programs". i thought that was foreign aid. page 29 here (http://www.randpaul2010.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Overview-500-billion-cuts-2.pdf).

Yeah, you're right. This article mentions it as well.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/48178.html

Inkblots
01-25-2011, 07:31 PM
Well, this certainly is a good start. Now we just need entitlement reform to get us the other 60% of the way there.

I must say I winced a bit at seeing the NSF cut by 60%, since that's where my funding comes from, but he's right that this nation can no longer afford such luxuries.

This proposal needs to get all the attention we can stir up. Send this to everyone! I just sent in a tip about it to HotAir.

Inkblots
01-25-2011, 07:36 PM
Hey, do you think a mod could move this thread to the main forum?

sailingaway
01-25-2011, 08:27 PM
Yeah, you're right. This article mentions it as well.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/48178.html

Could they have picked a more flattering picture?

Substitute:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2fKwud7kLXTC92pN_JcLpyCljgLId7 6NdPy4f1kxaQ3C963MJnhdgKi2p

Huh, Politico already changed the title from "Rand Paul Strikes" to "Rand Paul unveils $500B in cuts."

radiofriendly
01-25-2011, 08:52 PM
Let's get this thing submitted to Drudge.

sailingaway
01-25-2011, 08:55 PM
Larouche-ites are going after Rand in the comments of the politico piece.

Brett85
01-25-2011, 09:11 PM
Huh, Politico already changed the title from "Rand Paul Strikes" to "Rand Paul unveils $500B in cuts."

Yeah. Apparently one of the higher ups over there actually has some class.

jmdrake
01-25-2011, 09:28 PM
True enough, plus another 24billion from homeland security. It is definitely a start.

Yeah. But I want the department of homeland inSecurity eliminated. Must not be politically palatable to do that. It's interesting that the coast guard was transferred out. Why not customs too?

sailingaway
01-25-2011, 09:58 PM
Yeah. Apparently one of the higher ups over there actually has some class.

I liked "Rand Strikes!"

Very catchy.

jmdrake
01-25-2011, 10:41 PM
I liked "Rand Strikes!"

Very catchy.

http://www.vanityfair.com/images/politics/2010/10/rand-paul.jpg

sailingaway
01-26-2011, 01:27 PM
Fox picked up Politico's article, but they are going with the "Rand Strikes!" headline, and are doubling down with this picture:

http://nation.foxnews.com/sites/nation.foxnews.com/files/imagecache/dv1/636_012611_fx_hunting_ax.jpg

http://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/26/rand-paul-strikes-unveils-500-billion-cuts

Brett85
01-26-2011, 01:43 PM
I would have been a bit happier if he proposed cutting the DOD budget a bit more then 47billion though.

The 47 billion number is deceiving, because Rand actually transferred the Coast Guard from Homeland Security to the Defense Department. He also tranferred about half of the Department of Energy to the Defense Department. Had he not done that, the overall cuts to the Defense Department would have been much steeper.

sailingaway
01-26-2011, 01:53 PM
The 47 billion number is deceiving, because Rand actually transferred the Coast Guard from Homeland Security to the Defense Department. He also tranferred about half of the Department of Energy to the Defense Department. Had he not done that, the overall cuts to the Defense Department would have been much steeper.


:D

I didn't pick up on that when I skimmed it, last night....

Brett85
01-26-2011, 10:24 PM
Does anybody know how many foreign military bases Rand closed down in his proposal and what percentage it was?

BamaFanNKy
01-26-2011, 10:31 PM
Does anybody know how many foreign military bases Rand closed down in his proposal and what percentage it was?

Considering he can't close a base down (has to be a commission).

Brett85
01-26-2011, 10:35 PM
Considering he can't close a base down (has to be a commission).

I know. He can't pass any of these spending cuts on his own either. I was just asking what his proposal was.

BamaFanNKy
01-26-2011, 10:58 PM
I know. He can't pass any of these spending cuts on his own either. I was just asking what his proposal was.
He can propose budget cuts just, he can't say which bases. Actually name.