Notorious neocon Paul Ryan pushed to be new Republican "star" LOL

[doodle]

Notorious neocon Paul Ryan for whom aipac had mobilized its members will be responding to Obama SOTU speech. Is GOP firmly a war party led by neocons?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2HlXapgYp4

[FSP-Rebel]

Yeah and Bachmann is responding as the Tea Party spokesperson yet only CNN will be covering her. Sup with Fox?

[akforme]

Paul Ryan is exactly what's wrong with the GOP. He's more statist than 1/2 the liberals but you'd never know it by listening to him.

[Sola_Fide]

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss303/crimage/gif/facepalm.gif

[Brett85]

Neocon=Anybody who isn't a down the line libertarian.

[Cutlerzzz]

Neocon=Anybody who isn't a down the line libertarian.

So what would you call Ryan?

[Sola_Fide]

Paul Ryan begged for the bailouts didn't he?

He sucks.

[doodle]

Neocon=Anybody who isn't a down the line libertarian.

Yea, him calling for opposition to surge a vote of no cinfidence in troops/morale killer, going abroad on aipac sponsored trips, pushing America to wars for foreign countries and lobbies interests isn't exactly "down the line libertarian".

[doodle]

So what would you call Ryan?

A moderate neocon perhaps who likes to twist upper torso in weird way when speaking on behalf of lobbies.
Not that there is anything wrong with such twists.


Would be interesting to see if Tea Party will try to impeach him.

[Cutlerzzz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS_Tr1Bnv54&feature=fvst

This needs to be shown to every Tea Party Republican.

[Guitarzan]

Paul Ryan's record is absolutely horrible. I lol every time I hear a "conservative" speaking about Ryan in high regard.

Paul Ryan on Bailouts and Government Stimuli
-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)

Paul Ryan on Entitlement Programs
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)

Paul Ryan on Education
Rep. Ryan went along with the Bush Administration in supporting more federal involvement in education. This is contrary to the traditional Republican position, which included support for abolition of the Department of Education and decreasing federal involvement in education.

-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)

Paul Ryan on Civil Liberties
-Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
-Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
-Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)

Paul Ryan on War and Intervention Abroad
-Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)
-Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)
-Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)
-Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)




And I'm still looking for his impassioned speech on the floor of the house where he's basically begging Congress to vote for Tarp. All of his speeches are on his youtune channel but that one.

[sofia]

Paul Ryan was in the same Aspen Institure Felowship as Trey Grayson, Jack Conway, and Marco Rubio.

Aspen is as leftist and globalist as you can get. Paul Ryan's vaunted "budget cuts" amount to peanuts...Military, SS, Medicare, Medicaid remain untouched in his scheme......and he does not support a single Department shutdown.

He is pure neo-con/liberal lite garbage....hence....the hype and the career fast track

[ItsTime]

teoconed

[Brett85]

So what would you call Ryan?

I would call him an interventionist, or at least somebody who doesn't support non intervention. But calling every person who disagrees with a non interventionist foreign policy a "neocon" makes that term completely meaningless. That term should only apply to people who heavily focus on foreign policy issues and actually are neocons like Bill Kristol, Charles K, Liz Cheney, Lindsey Graham, Dick Lugar, etc.

[Sola_Fide]

teoconed

Nah. Paul Ryan is not even Tea. He is pure establishment.

[Brian4Liberty]

I would call him an interventionist, or at least somebody who doesn't support non intervention. But calling every person who disagrees with a non interventionist foreign policy a "neocon" makes that term completely meaningless. That term should only apply to people who heavily focus on foreign policy issues and actually are neocons like Bill Kristol, Charles K, Liz Cheney, Lindsey Graham, Dick Lugar, etc.

And what do you call a Republican that voted for TARP, Stimulus, Bailouts and pretty much all big government expansion?

[Brett85]

And what do you call a Republican that voted for TARP, Stimulus, Bailouts and pretty much all big government expansion?

A statist who tries to sell himself as a fiscal conservative. Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of things to criticize Ryan on. But I just think that the term "neocon" is over used.

[lester1/2jr]

He's the type of guy who if you bumped into him on a forum he'd be a pud but in washington he is like the second coming of jefferson. That bailout begging is deeply bad though. probably regrets that.

[nathanmn]

Paul Ryan's record is absolutely horrible. I lol every time I hear a "conservative" speaking about Ryan in high regard.

Paul Ryan on Bailouts and Government Stimuli
-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)

Paul Ryan on Entitlement Programs
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)

Paul Ryan on Education
Rep. Ryan went along with the Bush Administration in supporting more federal involvement in education. This is contrary to the traditional Republican position, which included support for abolition of the Department of Education and decreasing federal involvement in education.

-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)

Paul Ryan on Civil Liberties
-Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
-Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
-Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)

Paul Ryan on War and Intervention Abroad
-Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)
-Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)
-Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)
-Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)




And I'm still looking for his impassioned speech on the floor of the house where he's basically begging Congress to vote for Tarp. All of his speeches are on his youtune channel but that one.

Good post! The voting record speaks for itself. No matter what he says, he doesn't have fiscal conservative credentials. You cannot vote for the medicare drug plan, no child left behind, and the stimulus bill and call yourself a fiscal conservative.

[itshappening]

Aspen asshole

[AGRP]

Paul Ryan is the canary in the coal mine.

Never trust a news publication that pushes this fraud.

[sofia]

Drug and food addict Rush kept referring to Paul Ryan as "brilliant" today.

Wall Street shill Larry Kudlow calls Ryan "a budget whiz"

Hannity calls him a "genius"

In reality, all Ryan does is spout watered down Keynesian gobbleygook.

[HazyHusky420]

Neocon=Anybody who isn't a down the line libertarian.

No someone with blood on their hands who refers to themselves as a conservative.

[Son of Detroit]

Did Obama just say something about the Allman Brothers? I was semi-listening and thought I heard him say the Allman Brothers. Appointing Gregg to his cabinet?

[libertybrewcity]

Paul Ryan's record is absolutely horrible. I lol every time I hear a "conservative" speaking about Ryan in high regard.

Paul Ryan on Bailouts and Government Stimuli
-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)

Paul Ryan on Entitlement Programs
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)

Paul Ryan on Education
Rep. Ryan went along with the Bush Administration in supporting more federal involvement in education. This is contrary to the traditional Republican position, which included support for abolition of the Department of Education and decreasing federal involvement in education.

-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)

Paul Ryan on Civil Liberties
-Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
-Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
-Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)

Paul Ryan on War and Intervention Abroad
-Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)
-Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)
-Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)
-Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)




And I'm still looking for his impassioned speech on the floor of the house where he's basically begging Congress to vote for Tarp. All of his speeches are on his youtune channel but that one.

Paul Ryan=FAIL

[Inflation]

Aspen asshole

That's good to know, thx for the tip. To hell with the Ass Pen Institute.

It's not easy to surpass Boehner and Mitch's level of GOP establishment FAIL, yet somehow Paul Ryan manages.

I hope Bachmann tears both of them (and Obama) a new one tonight.

[doodle]

Paul Ryan was in the same Aspen Institure Felowship as Trey Grayson, Jack Conway, and Marco Rubio.

Aspen is as leftist and globalist as you can get. Paul Ryan's vaunted "budget cuts" amount to peanuts...Military, SS, Medicare, Medicaid remain untouched in his scheme......and he does not support a single Department shutdown.

He is pure neo-con/liberal lite garbage....hence....the hype and the career fast track

It's funny how the two phonies almost sound alike.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-13-7Aj2ks

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Paul Ryan's record is absolutely horrible. I lol every time I hear a "conservative" speaking about Ryan in high regard.

Paul Ryan on Bailouts and Government Stimuli
-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)

Paul Ryan on Entitlement Programs
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)

Sheesh. How does Paul Ryan have the gall to try and pass himself off as fiscally conservative? And why do so many of these alleged conservative blogs lend Ryan credibility on fiscal issues? What a fraud.

[anaconda]

Ryan can barley even talk without stumbling over his words and looking like an insincere dope. Alfred E. Newman would crush him.

[emazur]

Looks like Paul Ryan doesn't think much of Ron Paul's credibility:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_05/b4213026837780.htm
Representative Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), who chairs the House Budget Committee and speaks to [John] Taylor every two to three weeks, says he "is probably the leading voice with the highest level of credibility in proposing an alternative view to the Fed's."

[Humanae Libertas]

"Socialist" Paul Ryan is a more suitable name (judging by his voting record of course).

[Zatch]

edit: nvm

[Sola_Fide]

edit: nvm

Just let it out man!

[speciallyblend]

Paul Ryan=FAIL

we need bulletin points like this for all the obama republicans running against Ron Paul at cpac 2011!!! ASAP hoping guitarzan might already have the bulletin points:)

[AdamT]

Ryan is the worst. And he hates Ron Paul and all of us with a passion.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Americans suffer from disillusionment. First off, we always think of tyranny as being the other guy. Second, like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, we feel the need to look for some magic solution a long distance away to solve our problems. Yet, as we continue solving our problems on the local level, our rights are being lobbied away on the Federal level. Third, the transfer of wealth to the poor has never worked and will never work as government will just counterbalance the social endeavor by way of counterfeiting welfare for the rich as well.
Exxon and the Walton children just think they have lots of money. Because the lawyers ruling over us own the money presses, they don't need money.

[anaconda]

Looks like Paul Ryan doesn't think much of Ron Paul's credibility:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_05/b4213026837780.htm
Representative Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), who chairs the House Budget Committee and speaks to [John] Taylor every two to three weeks, says he "is probably the leading voice with the highest level of credibility in proposing an alternative view to the Fed's."

Don't see how this is anti Ron. A Stanford Ph.D ripping on Bernanke does carry quite a bit of clout.

[emazur]

Don't see how this is anti Ron. A Stanford Ph.D ripping on Bernanke does carry quite a bit of clout.

Here's how I see it - Paul Ryan does not believe that Ron Paul, a man who predicted the economic crises and who has been calling for alternatives (REAL alternatives) to the Fed for decades, is the leading voice against the Fed. No, Paul Ryan just believes we need the "right people" running the Fed and Taylor is his man.

Anyway, here's another article that discredits Paul Ryan - his roadmap will add $62 trillion in debt til around the 2060s, then we will have a balanced budget:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/26/2035923/paul-ryan-is-not-what-you-think.html

According to the Congressional Budget Office, Ryan's plan would result in annual deficits of between 3.5 and 4.5 percent of gross domestic product between now and somewhere after 2040, with a balanced budget coming only around 2063. This would add at least $62 trillion to the national debt over the period. (My estimate is conservative mostly because the independent Tax Policy Center says Ryan's tax reforms would produce far less revenue than Ryan required the CBO to assume.)

Ryan doesn't dispute these basic facts (though I believe this is the first time his actual debt numbers have been called out). When I asked him at a recent National Press Club event how he could put out a plan that didn't balance the budget for decades and added trillions to the debt, and still call himself a ``fiscal conservative,'' he offered an evasive digression on how this just shows how tough the demographic challenge is. But it really shows something different: that you can't double the number of seniors on Social Security and Medicare and keep taxes at their recent long-run average of 19 percent of GDP, as Ryan's plan would do. Even after assuming entitlement reforms that most Republicans think would be politically fatal, Ryan's red ink never stops flowing.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/26/2035923/paul-ryan-is-not-what-you-think.html#ixzz1CVACJtsG

[doodle]

Just let it out man!

I agree :)

[libertybrewcity]

He is a younger Sensenbrenner. I love Wisconsin but they give us some crappy politicians.

[civusamericanus]

Here's Bill Kristol "prince of the neocon's" saying a Paul Ryan/Marco Rubio 2012 ticket is in the works. Ryan is 41, his voting record is atrocious, and goes against the Tea Party principles, yet he's still placed on this pedestal for being an "Expert" on budget matters? I spent last night trying to figure who the neocon's were going to shove down our throats for 2012, I think Ryan is their man, his voting record sure proves it.

Not to mention Ryan's been in congress since 1999. He was 30 when he joined congress, and before that worked in marketing for his family's mutli-state construction company. Ryan is someone we need to watch and keep on our radar! On his Paul Ryan for President 2012 Facebook page, he's got 13K people, that's a pretty good start. Not to mention he spoke on the STOTU and CPAC 2011. He's obviously, prepping for a 2012 run. The Wisconsin Labor issue, has been in the front page news for weeks, even though Ryan has little to do with the issue, he will get proxy credit.
httpsuck://facebook.com/pages/Paul-Ryan-for-President-2012/108728965815375#!/alinorris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFD3Tye0_rg

[civusamericanus]

Here's a video of Thomas Woods changing Dennis Miller's mind, on Paul Ryan. Then he says the Paul's are the only solution.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AE4VD3f-3g

[Lucille]

Sheesh. How does Paul Ryan have the gall to try and pass himself off as fiscally conservative? And why do so many of these alleged conservative blogs lend Ryan credibility on fiscal issues? What a fraud.

Right? I link to that when the cons call for him to run for POTUS. Conservatives shouldn't want to "save" big banks, big auto, Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid, while Ryan does (and his support for perpetual Islamic nation-building wars is also decidedly unconservative).

While this is a great piece (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-economy-flight-666-our-one-way-ticket-zimbabwe-0), his admiration for Ryan leaves me cold.


I’m a huge Paul Ryan fan. I’m impressed with his handle on our budget. I give him a tremendous amount of credit for addressing our dismal fiscal situation head on. I commend him for making it the center of his work. This is something most politicians refuse to even mention, let alone address in public.

Congressman Ryan is working to solve it. As much as I like, admire and respect Representative Ryan - I have to say: He epitomizes Walker’s illustration of our biggest deficit. He does not have the economic vision to see the picture and he is therefore stunted from forming a dynamic and cohesive plan that will solve our problems.
[...]
Bernanke is by definition a weak link. Obama should have fired him. He and Greenspan created the housing bubble. They deserve no rewards for ordering a 10.4 trillion dollar carpet to sweep their mess under in order to hide and prolong the disaster. Paul Ryan should have used this opportunity to publicly condemn the man and demand the idiot's resignation. You can see by the videos that the committee is bumbling around in the dark feeling its way around.

The only question that should be asked is: “Bernanke, do you want to resign now or when you leave this meeting?”

So what we should be hearing from Congressman Ryan is this:
[...]
I am deeply saddened that Paul Ryan won’t be a good leader until after he learns from this colossal failure.

[doodle]

Here's a video of Thomas Woods changing Dennis Miller's mind, on Paul Ryan. Then he says the Paul's are the only solution.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AE4VD3f-3g

No surprise, he is neocon and war lobbies top pick.

[doodle]

BUSTED: Watch TARP Republican Paul Ryan Begging Congress To Vote For The Bailout

http://dailybail.com/home/busted-watch-tarp-republican-paul-ryan-begging-congress-to-v.html

[AuH20]

Neocon=Anybody who isn't a down the line libertarian.

He is close to neocon. Look at his votes.

[doodle]

He is close to neocon. Look at his votes.

Good point.

[AGRP]

BUSTED: Watch TARP Republican Paul Ryan Begging Congress To Vote For The Bailout

http://dailybail.com/home/busted-watch-tarp-republican-paul-ryan-begging-congress-to-v.html

Thanks.

Added to: http://www.thenorthwestreport.com/top-10-tea-party-crashers/

[sailingaway]

check this write up by the left of Ryan's moment in the spotlight. They give props of sorts to Ron: http://www.thenation.com/blog/159979/paul-ryans-authoritarian-freakout-losing-control-budget-voting-congressman-screeches-shu

[doodle]

Here's Bill Kristol "prince of the neocon's" saying a Paul Ryan/Marco Rubio 2012 ticket is in the works. Ryan is 41, his voting record is atrocious, and goes against the Tea Party principles, yet he's still placed on this pedestal for being an "Expert" on budget matters? I spent last night trying to figure who the neocon's were going to shove down our throats for 2012, I think Ryan is their man, his voting record sure proves it.

Not to mention Ryan's been in congress since 1999. He was 30 when he joined congress, and before that worked in marketing for his family's mutli-state construction company. Ryan is someone we need to watch and keep on our radar! On his Paul Ryan for President 2012 Facebook page, he's got 13K people, that's a pretty good start. Not to mention he spoke on the STOTU and CPAC 2011. He's obviously, prepping for a 2012 run. The Wisconsin Labor issue, has been in the front page news for weeks, even though Ryan has little to do with the issue, he will get proxy credit.
httpsuck://facebook.com/pages/Paul-Ryan-for-President-2012/108728965815375#!/alinorris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFD3Tye0_rg

Great post, thank you.

Neocom Bill Kristol: ..Ryan-Rubio, what is not to like about it
Fox dude: Some people will switch it around and say Rubio-Ryan
Neocom Bill Kristol: Well, either way, I'm open to that. Ryan has a little more experience in kissing ass of aipac Washington..and I think he's a year older and age matters to me and it will be exciting..

[LibertyEagle]

Doodle, the video you are looking for is posted somewhere on the forums. I saw it yesterday or the day before on here.

[doodle]

Doodle, the video you are looking for is posted somewhere on the forums. I saw it yesterday or the day before on here.

Thanks LE, I think I found it.

[doodle]

check this write up by the left of Ryan's moment in the spotlight. They give props of sorts to Ron: http://www.thenation.com/blog/159979/paul-ryans-authoritarian-freakout-losing-control-budget-voting-congressman-screeches-shu


Paul Ryan claims to be a huge fan of novelist Ayn Rand, the libertarian favorite whose books and essays celebrated bold and unexpected acts of rebellion against autocrats and authoritarians


Interesting article, wonder if she would be "pro Iraq surge" and equate opposition to surge with lack of trust in our troops .. if she were alive today.

[doodle]

Thanks.

Added to: http://www.thenorthwestreport.com/top-10-tea-party-crashers/

One of the best takes on Tea Party crashers I have seen online. I'm taking the liberty of blogging your post, hope you won't mind.

[doodle]

http://www.onepennysheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/s-PAUL-RYAN-BUDGET-CUTS-large300.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

A statist who tries to sell himself as a fiscal conservative. Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of things to criticize Ryan on. But I just think that the term "neocon" is over used.

With Ryan's unabashed interventionist and Amerika uber Alles views, and while agreeing that neocon has been overused, in this case it fits perfectly.

[Indy Vidual]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS_Tr1Bnv54&feature=fvst

This needs to be shown to every Tea Party Republican.

NOTICE This video contains an audio track that has not been authorized by WMG. The audio has been disabled.

[doodle]

Dick Cheney: 'I worship the ground Paul Ryan walks on'


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55749.html#ixzz1NTv3GHh1

[HOLLYWOOD]

Paul Ryan is exactly what's wrong with the GOP. He's more statist than 1/2 the liberals but you'd never know it by listening to him.THe Money Masters are rewarding their puppets on Capital Hill. Always a RED FLAG in Washington DC when these statists accelerate up the ladders to power and authority of chairmanships. He's such a FED SHILL and will be shaped along with Rubio and Christie for 2016 presidency.