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trey4sports
01-23-2011, 10:14 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110123/ap_on_re_us/us_tea_party_defense_cuts

SamuraisWisdom
01-23-2011, 12:56 PM
Good, it's a start. Looks like we're finally heading in the right direction. We just need to keep up the momentum during the next elections.

HOLLYWOOD
01-23-2011, 01:39 PM
Dick Army is NOT the Tea Party... He's a hijacker to steer those uninformed souls of revolutionary garb and holding signs to follow him, in a masterful art, to the preconceived point set by the establishment. PNAC, TEA PARTY EXPRESS, Move America Forward (MAF), TEAOCONS, and the rest of the money backers have put up plenty of co-opted/hijacked "TEA PARTY SITES" for those disenfranchised to follow into the well designed PAVLOV's law of psychological conditioning to lead the disenfranchised sheep. Just another gimmick of the impression of something being through trivial token plans. The Paradigm continues...

Just recently DOD Gates and Hillary Clinton met with the Senate Arms committee to establish a new Nuclear Weapons program of modernization. The additional price tag to the already $5+ Billion a year spent on NUKES will be $80 Billion. It's all slide of hand/3 Card Monty games with these government hacks/propaganda press releases.

lester1/2jr
01-23-2011, 01:44 PM
" The mentality that certain programs are 'off the table' must be taken off the table"


awesome

tangent4ronpaul
01-23-2011, 01:52 PM
Dick Army is NOT the Tea Party... He's a hijacker to steer those uninformed souls of revolutionary garb and holding signs to follow him, in a masterful art, to the preconceived point set by the establishment. PNAC, TEA PARTY EXPRESS, TEAOCONS, and the rest of the money backers have put up plenty of co-opted/hijacked "TEA PARTY SITES" for those disenfranchised to follow into the well designed PAVLOV's law of psychological conditioning to lead the disenfranchised sheep. Just another gimmick of the impression of something being through trivial token plans. The Paradigm continues...

Just recently DOD Gates and Hillary Clinton met with the Senate Arms committee to establish a new Nuclear Weapons program of modernization. The additional price tag to the already $5+ Billion a year spent on NUKES will be $80 Billion. It's all slide of hand/3 Card Monty games with these government hacks/propaganda press releases.

I ran into him last campaign and decided I wanted nothing to do with him. Boy, was he pissed about that! (he wanted my grassroots real estate).

-t

tangent4ronpaul
01-23-2011, 01:53 PM
Smoke and mirrors:


"No matter how much defense spending is trimmed, none of the cuts is likely to reduce the money that's available to the military to spend on the war fronts."

-t

Kludge
01-23-2011, 02:00 PM
Misleading. They talk about "cuts" in Gates' plan not actually being cuts, but reductions in increases -- as if that's not happening. But then...

"Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey and Matt Kibbe, leaders of the group FreedomWorks, recently wrote in a Wall Street Journal editorial that "defense spending should not be exempt from scrutiny." On Gates' proposed savings of $145 billion over five years, they said, "That's a start.""

This made me lol, btw...

"In an unusual political pairing, liberal Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, a libertarian and former Republican presidential candidate, have joined forces in pushing for substantial reductions in the defense budget, including closing some of the 600-plus military bases overseas.

"I'll work with anybody," Frank said of the effort"

Southron
01-23-2011, 02:08 PM
Cutting military bases overseas would be a great start.

Brett85
01-23-2011, 02:13 PM
Cutting military bases overseas would be a great start.

Yep. That's where the actual cutting needs to be. "Getting rid of waste" in the defense budget doesn't mean anything if we're still going to police the world. The tea party needs to come out in favor of closing foreign military bases and ending the nation building projects overseas.

HOLLYWOOD
01-23-2011, 05:28 PM
Cutting military bases overseas would be a great start.

Not to Segway... but look at this: How do you get; Liberals, Conservatives, Socialists, Anarchists, Greenies, Pacifists, Independents,and even Communists to UNITE? Yet, you bearly hear about it from US Corporate News?

ANSWER: Build a new US Military Installation in Italy

Protest against Vicenza US Military Base
http://www.italymag.co.uk/italy/veneto/protest-against-vicenza-us-military-base-expansion-resume


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6370671.stm

http://current.com/news/90344150_italians-protest-us-base-expansion-g8-commondreams-org.htm

http://www.no-bases.org/show_news/italians_protest_us_base_expansion

HOLLYWOOD
01-23-2011, 08:10 PM
I ran into him last campaign and decided I wanted nothing to do with him. Boy, was he pissed about that! (he wanted my grassroots real estate).

-t BTW, if you take the time to connect the dots and find the money running these "Tea Party Fronts" you'd be surprised how they are all related together. But in the long run... all these co-opted Tea Party Org's are controlled by NEOCONs and Imperialists. Nothing will change with web they have woven

Russo Marsh & Rogers (RM+R) is a Republican Party (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Republican_Party)-affiliated political public relations (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Public_relations) firm based in Sacramento, California. Sal Russo is into all the Tea Party organizations.


RM&R also appears to trade under the name King Media Group (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=King_Media_Group) (KMG). If you look the King Media website is nearly identical in appearance to that of RM&R and both operate from the same postal address.(Sacramento, CA) RM&R and KMG have separate main telephone numbers but share the same FAX number. Finally, RM&R and KMG share nearly the same management team.

MAF Freedom PAC: their a Pro War/Empire Lobby run by Sal Russo.
Tea Party Express PAC: RM&R also has their employees creating and running the .
Our Country Deserves Better PAC Other members and former members of RM&R run it.ResistNet.com
PatriotActionNetwork.com
GrassFire.ORG
Feedom's Watch
are all co-opted, funded and controlled BY the NEOCONS
Project for the New American Century: (PNAC) Neoconservative William Kristol's Group with direct affiliations to American Enterprise Institute (AEI) are tied directly to RM&R
PNAC and AEI are closely tied
New Citizenship Project: another PNAC/AEI funded PAC with the same crones with much money being funneled from the big Washington DC PACs to the grassroot/tea party PACs. If you want to get very granular, you can see the Gazillionaire Pritzker family that funded Obama's presidential run, half the family are on all the Neocon PACs/Institutes/Foundations. Then these local grassroots Tea Party organizations join these nation PHONY Tea Party PAC/Sites, and don't realize how they are being shaped, sensitized/de-senseitized to policies/events/strategies, monitored, and manipulated into their control.

Remember April 15th, 2008, Sacramento, CA 1st TAX DAY Tea Party Protest?
RM&R, all the PACs above had their media company cover the protests. FOX NEWS with Neil Cavuto and company. Roger Ailes, RM&R, Tea Party Express, Pajamas Network, Aspen Institute, all these phony co-opted Tea Party websites/national organizations and the true source of the money and policies, the Washington DC POWER PACs.

The Masters are playing the Tea Party people/orgs like marionettes and they don't even know it.

I just feel sorry for all the honest Tea Party protesters that don't have a clue, but donated their money to these MONSTERS.

Slutter McGee
01-24-2011, 11:02 AM
Dick Army is NOT the Tea Party... He's a hijacker to steer those uninformed souls of revolutionary garb and holding signs to follow him, in a masterful art, to the preconceived point set by the establishment. PNAC, TEA PARTY EXPRESS, Move America Forward (MAF), TEAOCONS, and the rest of the money backers have put up plenty of co-opted/hijacked "TEA PARTY SITES" for those disenfranchised to follow into the well designed PAVLOV's law of psychological conditioning to lead the disenfranchised sheep. Just another gimmick of the impression of something being through trivial token plans. The Paradigm continues...

Just recently DOD Gates and Hillary Clinton met with the Senate Arms committee to establish a new Nuclear Weapons program of modernization. The additional price tag to the already $5+ Billion a year spent on NUKES will be $80 Billion. It's all slide of hand/3 Card Monty games with these government hacks/propaganda press releases.

Ron Paul is not the tea-party either, nor is Palin. The tea-party is nothing more than people that want to cut domestic fiscal spending. If Armey wants that, then he is part of the tea-party.

I get real tired of people attacking others when they say things we agree with. Talk about counter productive. Bunch of self-righteous elitists.

Sincerley,

Slutter McGee

Inflation
01-24-2011, 11:01 PM
I agree with McGee ^^. We need to unify and grow the tea parties, not divide them up and throw some under the bus.

Army is a formidable character with many supporters. That's why he was Speaker of the House, etc.

He's also an econ PhD. And the charge of TeoCon is false:


"The widely held sentiment among Tea Party Patriot members is that every item in the budget, including military spending and foreign aid, must be on the table," said Mark Meckler, co-founder of the Tea Party Patriots. "It is time to get serious about preserving the country for our posterity. The mentality that certain programs are 'off the table' must be taken off the table."

Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey and Matt Kibbe, leaders of the group FreedomWorks, recently wrote in a Wall Street Journal editorial that "defense spending should not be exempt from scrutiny."

Bman
01-24-2011, 11:11 PM
Ron Paul is not the tea-party either, nor is Palin. The tea-party is nothing more than people that want to cut domestic fiscal spending. If Armey wants that, then he is part of the tea-party.

I get real tired of people attacking others when they say things we agree with. Talk about counter productive. Bunch of self-righteous elitists.

Sincerley,

Slutter McGee

Wrong.


The tea-party is nothing more than people that want cut's in spending.

That would be correct.

HazyHusky420
01-24-2011, 11:57 PM
Ron Paul is not the tea-party either, nor is Palin. The tea-party is nothing more than people that want to cut domestic fiscal spending. If Armey wants that, then he is part of the tea-party.

I get real tired of people attacking others when they say things we agree with. Talk about counter productive. Bunch of self-righteous elitists.

Sincerley,

Slutter McGee

I'm sorry but do you know how much we spend overseas?

Slutter McGee
01-25-2011, 08:47 AM
I'm sorry but do you know how much we spend overseas?

Of course I do. I also recognize that cutting foreign spending is just as important as cutting domestic spending. My point is simply that the tea party is about the former not the latter.

And as long as somebody is not advocating increased foreign interventionism as part of the tea-party platform, I am not going to get pissed about about them staying silent on the subject in so far as the represent the tea-party.

Slutter McGee

jtstellar
01-25-2011, 09:23 AM
debate policies. not personalities.

Sola_Fide
01-25-2011, 09:52 AM
My general sense among the Tea Partiers in KY is that they are squarely behind Rand's foreign policy: they started as neocons and are making their way to Ron Paul.

PreDeadMan
01-25-2011, 10:13 AM
that's nice call me when they want to abolish taxation and withdraw the troops from around the world ::yawns::