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Anti Federalist
01-21-2011, 09:34 PM
A strange article in the Economist that pretty much says it all: Bilderberg and Davos and so many other "elite" meeting places are, in fact, where the global power brokers get a handle on what they are going to do next.

But pay it no mind now, it doesn't concern you, mundane.

No matter what you may think about "conspiracies", powerful people who directly control, write, enact, enforce or lobby for policies and laws that directly effect each and every one of us, should not be allowed the luxury of meeting in private, with no oversight, press or representation for the people they are proposing to rule over.



Where the influential people meet and talk
A special report on global leaders

Jan 20th 2011 | from PRINT EDITION

http://www.economist.com/node/17928993

“YOU can do nothing against a conspiracy theory,” sighs Etienne Davignon. He sits in a lofty office with a stupendous view over Brussels, puffing his pipe. He is an aristocrat, a former vice-president of the European Commission and a man who has sat on several corporate boards, but that is not why some people consider him too powerful. He presides over the Bilderberg group, an evil conspiracy bent on world domination. At least, that is what numerous websites allege; also that it has ties to al-Qaeda, is hiding the cure for cancer and wishes to merge the United States with Mexico.

In reality, Bilderberg is an annual conference for a few dozen of the world’s most influential people. Last year Bill Gates and Larry Summers hobnobbed with the chairman of Deutsche Bank, the boss of Shell, the head of the World Food Programme and the prime minister of Spain. One or two journalists are invited each year, on condition that they abstain from writing about it. (Full disclosure: the editor of The Economist sometimes attends.)

Because the meetings are off the record, they are catnip to conspiracy theorists. But the attraction for participants is obvious. They can speak candidly, says Mr Davignon, without worrying how their words might play in tomorrow’s headlines. So they find out what other influential people really think. Big ideas are debated frankly. Mr Davignon credits the meetings for helping to lay the groundwork for creating the euro. He recalls strong disagreement over Iraq: some participants favoured the invasion in 2003, some opposed it and some wanted it done differently. Last year the debate was about Europe’s fiscal problems, and whether the euro would survive.

The world is a complicated place, with oceans of new information sloshing around. To run a multinational organisation, it helps if you have a rough idea of what is going on. It also helps to be on first-name terms with other globocrats. So the cosmopolitan elite—international financiers, bureaucrats, charity bosses and thinkers—constantly meet and talk. They flock to elite gatherings such as the World Economic Forum at Davos, the Trilateral Commission and the Boao meeting in China. They form clubs. Ethnic Indian entrepreneurs around the world join TiE (The Indus Enterprise). Movers and shakers in New York and Washington join the Council on Foreign Relations, where they can listen to the president of Turkey one week and the chief executive of Intel the next. The world’s richest man, Carlos Slim, a Mexican telecoms tycoon, hosts an annual gathering of Latin American billionaires who cultivate each other while ostensibly discussing regional poverty.

Davos is perhaps the glitziest of these globocratic gatherings. Hundreds of big wheels descend on the Swiss ski resort each year. The lectures are interesting, but the big draw is the chance to talk to other powerful people in the corridors. Such chats sometimes yield results. In 1988 the prime ministers of Turkey and Greece met at Davos and signed a declaration that may have averted a war. In 1994 Shimon Peres, then Israel’s foreign minister, and Yasser Arafat struck a deal over Gaza and Jericho. In 2003 Jack Straw, Britain’s foreign secretary, had an informal meeting in his hotel suite with the president of Iran, a country with which Britain had no diplomatic ties. But Davos is hardly a secretive institution: it is crawling with journalists. The other globocratic shindigs are opening up, too. Even Bilderberg has recently started publishing lists of participants on its website.

Some American organisations, such as foreign-policy think-tanks, are also well placed to exert global influence. The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, for example, has established itself as one of the most globally trusted talking-shops, with offices in Beijing, Beirut, Brussels and Moscow, as well as Washington—though it has yet to fulfil the vision of its founder, Andrew Carnegie, who wanted it to abolish war. The key to wielding influence, says Jessica Mathews, Carnegie’s president, is “very simple. You hire the best people.”

In countries where think-tanks are subservient to the state, such as China and Russia, foreign outfits such as Carnegie enjoy a reputation for independence. If they can back this up with useful knowledge, they can sway policy. For example, Carnegie scholars advised the authors of Russia’s post-Soviet constitution. And when relations between American and Russia grew frosty under President George W. Bush, Carnegie’s Moscow office helped keep a line of communication open between the two governments.

Such meetings are “an important part of the story of the superclass”, says Mr Rothkopf, the author of the eponymous book. What they offer is access to “some of the world’s most sequestered and elusive leaders”. As such, they are one of “the informal mechanisms of [global] power”.

(The superclass. That's the New World Order. That's the "they" us conspiracy weirdos are always squawking about - AF)

Some globocrats think the importance of forums like Davos is overstated. Howard Stringer, the boss of Sony, is the kind of person you would expect to relish such gatherings. Welsh by birth, American by citizenship, he took over Japan’s most admired company in 2005, when it was in serious trouble, and turned it around in the face of immense cultural obstacles. He says he has enjoyed trips to Davos in the past but will not attend this year. He can learn more, he says, by listening to his 167,000 employees.

On the face of it there seems much to be said for the world’s shakers and movers meeting and talking frequently. Yet for all their tireless information-swapping, globocrats were caught napping by the financial crisis. Their networks of contacts did throw up a few warnings, but not enough to prompt timely action.

The limits of jaw-jaw

Jim Chanos, a hedge-fund manager who made his first fortune betting that Enron was overvalued, warned the G8 finance ministers in April 2007 that banks and insurance firms were heading for trouble. He made another fortune when bank shares crashed, but is still furious that his warnings were politely ignored. He thinks it an outrage that several senior regulators from that period are still in positions of power. And he accuses some bankers of “a wholesale looting of the system” by paying themselves bonuses based on what they must have known were phantom profits. He thinks they should be prosecuted.

Globocrats failed to avert the crisis, but they rallied once it struck. Rich-country governments acted in concert to prop up banks with taxpayers’ money. In America the response was led by a well-connected trio: Hank Paulson, George Bush junior’s treasury secretary and a former boss of Goldman Sachs; Tim Geithner, Barack Obama’s treasury secretary and a former boss of the New York Federal Reserve, as well as a veteran of the IMF, the Council on Foreign Relations and Kissinger Associates; and Ben Bernanke, of Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton and the Bush White House, who is now chairman of the Federal Reserve. The bail-outs were unpopular everywhere, but may have prevented the world’s banking system from imploding.

Governments are now trying to craft rules to prevent a recurrence. Lots of people have offered advice. Among the weightier contributions was a report from the Group of Thirty (G30), an informal collection of past and present central-bank governors. The Volcker Report, advocating a central clearing mechanism for derivatives trading and curbs on proprietary trading by banks, helped shape America’s Dodd-Frank financial-reform bill. The G30 is influential because it consists of people with experience of putting policies into practice, says Stuart Mackintosh, its director. So when it makes recommendations, they can be turned into action, he adds.

Petar
01-21-2011, 10:13 PM
I believe that if Rico was truly enforced, then Bilderberg would be finished, but I also believe that private citizens have a right to meet in private, no matter how rich/powerful they are.

Anti Federalist
01-21-2011, 10:15 PM
I believe that if Rico was truly enforced, then Bilderberg would be finished, but I also believe that private citizens have a right to meet in private, no matter how rich/powerful they are.

Sure they do.

They don't have the right to do it as emissaries of government.

Petar
01-21-2011, 10:26 PM
Private citizens have a right to secretly get together and talk about the course that they want government to take, even if they are rich and powerful, but when actual government employees are involved, then that is something that we need to handle in a state manner.

sevin
01-22-2011, 08:34 AM
Bilderbergers? Oh that's just a crazy conspiracy theory.

The real conspiracy is all the tens of thousands of people conspiring to make it look like there's a conspiracy. :p

Stop trying to understand what the elite are doing and go back to sleep, mundane.

PatriotOne
01-22-2011, 09:16 AM
Personally, I think the "secrecy" part of their global government plan has become a liabilility to "them" (has breed distrust on a global scale). Self-disclosure is obviously intentional since The Economist is owned and run by none other than the Rothschild's and others. One of the head's of the global gov beast itself.

The publication belongs to The Economist Group, half of which is owned by the Financial Times, a subsidiary of Pearson PLC. A group of independent shareholders, including many members of the staff and the Rothschild banking family of England,[8] owns the rest. A board of trustees formally appoints the editor, who cannot be removed without its permission. In addition, about two-thirds of the seventy-five staff journalists are based in London, despite the global emphasis.

Sir Evelyn Robert de Rothschild was Chairman of the company from 1972 to 1989

Current members of the board of directors of the Economist Group are: Helen Alexander CBE, Sir David Bell, Rona Fairhead, John Gardiner, Philip Mengel, John Micklethwait, Nigel Morris, Simon Robertson, Lynn Forester de Rothschild, Lord Stevenson of Coddenham, and Chris Stibbs.

Travlyr
01-22-2011, 09:34 AM
Some American organisations, such as foreign-policy think-tanks, are also well placed to exert global influence. The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, for example, has established itself as one of the most globally trusted talking-shops, with offices in Beijing, Beirut, Brussels and Moscow, as well as Washington—though it has yet to fulfil the vision of its founder, Andrew Carnegie, who wanted it to abolish war. The key to wielding influence, says Jessica Mathews, Carnegie’s president, is “very simple. You hire the best people.”
What Jessica means by this last sentence is: "The key to wielding influence, says Jessica Mathews, Carnegie’s president, is “very simple. You take control of the money supply, counterfeit whatever money you want, inflate, tax, and steal the wealth of the earth, hire the best military police to control the masses and hire media shills to hide your evil deeds.”

vita3
01-22-2011, 10:16 AM
"What Jessica means by this last sentence is: "The key to wielding influence, says Jessica Mathews, Carnegie’s president, is “very simple. You take control of the money supply, counterfeit whatever money you want, inflate, tax, and steal the wealth of the earth, hire the best military police to control the masses and hire media shills to hide your evil deeds.”

winner,winner,chicken, dinner.

Bern
01-22-2011, 10:47 AM
Some cogent readers comments posted to that article.

TNforPaul45
01-22-2011, 11:11 AM
http://www.jonesreport.com/images/110606bbg_alex_bullhorn.jpg
WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE EVIL!!!

erowe1
01-22-2011, 11:34 AM
Doesn't look like that article is giving away any secrets.

moostraks
01-22-2011, 12:12 PM
They really would be better off just keeping their mouths shut. Of all the gall, calling themselves "superclass". They all have a superiority complex which I can only hope will be dealt with by a higher power at some point in time because they sure don't care what we feel about their so called super status.

As for not having a clue about the meltdown, my foot. Seems like the only people who have made out like bandits is these so called superclass elitest jerks.

Nice propaganda piece which can at least be shoved under the noses of those who walk among us and called us tinfoil hatters for claiming these private "clubs" meet and deal with government issues under cover of darkness. Private citizens can meet to their hearts content but once you start discussing state business with demands it be done beyond the purview of your constituents you have swung over to conspiring and should be thrown out on your keister.

teacherone
01-22-2011, 12:53 PM
Some cogent readers comments posted to that article.

looks like alex jones dropped one--

"So where's your mea culpa? Just once I would like to see you and your despicable, globalist, parasitic brethren and the rest of the media come clean and apologize to people like me who accurately and completely called out you scumbags going back to the late 90s. Instead of owning up to your non-sovereign, transnationalist, feudalistic ideology, you exsanguinating little quislings reacted with lies, omissions, ridicule and attacks on anyone with the courage and discernment to raise awareness of your treasonous agenda.

To say that I hate you people is a colossal understatement. Everything that I do is in direct defiance of your control grid and I WILL NEVER YIELD! I don't take my orders from Brussels, acknowledge or recognize your political marionettes, or in any way acquiesce to your tyranny. I hoard and store food, fuel, metals, NON-GMO seeds, ammunition, and reject with enthusiasm your poisonous vaccines. I drive huge fuel-hungry vehicles, burn wood, and maintain a huge green lawn. I don't use your credit, patronize your banksters, or buy your cheap, lead-based Chinese crap!

Resistance IS victory! You will NEVER win even if you prevail. There is a special place in hell for every one of you globalists and the sooner you all get there the better.

The answer to 1984 is 1776!

V"