Was the Loughner mugshot faked?

[RCA]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651864/pg#pid10348440

[Vessol]

Wouldn't surprise me in the least. That was actually my first thought when I saw it, it's almost designed too perfectly. It's designed as if it was meant to be on a movie poster for a Hollywood movie.

[TheConstitutionLives]

oh lord

[TNforPaul45]

Yeah, this would not be the first time that the media has put out doctored photos. Remember when Fox News was doctoring images of prominent democrats, I can't remember the two people that they altered.

But it has been done before.

[TNforPaul45]

Here is that story:

http://mediamatters.org/research/200807020002

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/fox-20080702-steinberg.jpg

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/fox-20080702-redicliffe.jpg

[MRK]

I take that back. The mouth does indeed seem to have been singled out and changed.

[Brian4Liberty]

Speaking of Fox, I just noticed that Bill Kristol has that same, extended, Joker-like grin...

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651864/pg#pid10348440

Woohoo, from the same site Jared used to post on as "erad3".

[pcosmar]

Yeah, this would not be the first time that the media has put out doctored photos. Remember when Fox News was doctoring images of prominent democrats, I can't remember the two people that they altered.

But it has been done before.

http://tech2.in.com/media/images/2009/Nov/img_183102_oswald-rifle.jpg

Yes it has.
I'm not sure if it was faked or staged. But it did seem suspicious.

[brandon]

Definitely a bit odd.....


http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e180979bcc3e.jpg

[pcosmar]

Woohoo, from the same site Jared used to post on as "erad3".

Correction.
It is the same site an anonymous poster used to post on as "erad3".

Unless you have actual proof that he did in fact author those posts.

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

Correction.
It is the same site an anonymous poster used to post on as "erad3".

Unless you have actual proof that he did in fact author those posts.

I don't think there is even actual proof that Jared is the author of classitup10.

[Bruno]

Correction.
It is the same site an anonymous poster used to post on as "erad3".

Unless you have actual proof that he did in fact author those posts.

And even it was was him, I fail to see the point.

[specsaregood]

And even it was was him, I fail to see the point.

The need for a verifiable internet ID so as to better track down crazy people posting crazy shit on forums and prevent these tragedies?

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

And even it was was him, I fail to see the point.

Its called humor. Run it through the databanks and try again.

[Bruno]

The need for a verifiable internet ID so as to better track down crazy people posting crazy shit on forums and prevent these tragedies?

That is our current administration's position, I'm sure, but I don't know if that was the point SpiritOf1776_J4 was making.

[Bruno]

Its called humor. Run it through the databanks and try again.

Oh

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

The need for a verifiable internet ID so as to better track down crazy people posting crazy shit on forums and prevent these tragedies?

I'm sure there is another record to tie a long time poster to Jared on that site and whatever email address he used, if it is his.

It isn't true that it is anonymous. The posts are tied to a particular nickname over time. Anonymous is guest access.

Erad was used on a gaming site by Jared as well, allegedly. General thought is its Jared name with the letters mixed to Erad, not exactly an anonymized nickname either if it is Jared.

On classitup10, which is claimed to be Jared's, he doesn't ever use his voice or show his face (uses a mask); to keep his anonymity presumably, then spells out his name in full, and links to a myspace account where he writes to a highschool friend. FYI - of the list of times Jared has called the police, one time was to complain his myspace ID was stolen. Odd in context to wondering what is actually his online.

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

That is our current administration's position, I'm sure, but I don't know if that was the point SpiritOf1776_J4 was making.

Actually, the jab was at the site itself. They aren't exactly a disinterested party to come up with an editorial. I was pointing out that you'd probably want a different source if you were referencing that to support an opinion.

[specsaregood]

That is our current administration's position, I'm sure, but I don't know if that was the point SpiritOf1776_J4 was making.

Yes, well all I know is that most of the people thatpost links to that site on this site are some of the craziest mothers posting here on rpf. :)

[pcosmar]

Yes, well all I know is that most of the people thatpost links to that site on this site are some of the craziest mothers posting here on rpf. :)

Wait,
I don't post there. I don't even go there unless it is to check something posted here.

[specsaregood]

Wait,
I don't post there. I don't even go there unless it is to check something posted here.

Well I don't consider you one of the craziest mothers posting here. So that fits.

[pcosmar]

Well I don't consider you one of the craziest mothers posting here. So that fits.

:D
I suspect some do.

" I've always been crazy, but it's kept me from going insane"
;)

[squarepusher]

if you are focusing on the corner of his lip with that photo, I think you are missing the big picture.

[TNforPaul45]

if you are focusing on the corner of his lip with that photo, I think you are missing the big picture.

Ealier pics of Loughner on the web show him with blue eyes as well, and his mug shot has him with brown eyes. Another change that is claimed to further dour him as a scapegoat symbol of the "change" they want, even though he is a guilty scapegoat.

[squarepusher]

Ealier pics of Loughner on the web show him with blue eyes as well, and his mug shot has him with brown eyes. Another change that is claimed to further dour him as a scapegoat symbol of the "change" they want, even though he is a guilty scapegoat.

my concerns with the photo are neither the color of his eyes, or the corner of his lip

edit: maybe its an entirely generated computer image designed by Mossad to take away your libertees?

[teacherone]

http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/g-cvr-110110-sketch-221p.grid-4x2.jpg


In this artist rendering, Jared Lee Loughner makes his first court appearance at the U.S. Courthouse in Phoenix. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40997616/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/)

anybody else notice anything weird here?

[amy31416]

http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/g-cvr-110110-sketch-221p.grid-4x2.jpg



anybody else notice anything weird here?

He looks like he's about 40 years old? He has hair?

[Bruno]

http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/g-cvr-110110-sketch-221p.grid-4x2.jpg



anybody else notice anything weird here?

You mean like that he appears to have hair, be over the age of 50, and look nothing like the mug shot?

[teacherone]

He looks like he's about 40 years old? He has hair?


You mean like that he appears to have hair, be over the age of 50, and look nothing like the mug shot?

yup...pretty much covered it.

wtf's up with that?

[RideTheDirt]

http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/g-cvr-110110-sketch-221p.grid-4x2.jpg



anybody else notice anything weird here?
This person is a horrible artist, and should be fired immediately?:p

[Bruno]

This person is a horrible artist, and should be fired immediately?:p

Good artist, perhaps just horrible at capturing what a person looks like. Or it wasn't the same person.

[teacherone]

maybe it doesn't take much skillz to be a courtroom artist.

anybody out of a job? if you can doodle come on down.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/1/11/1294715793441/Jared-Loughner-appears-in-005.jpg


Courtroom artist's depiction of Jared Lee Loughner, accused of attempting to kill US Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona and shooting 19 others at a shopping mall in Tucson, Arizona. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jan/13/freedom-of-speech-arizona-shooting)

[Brian4Liberty]

anybody else notice anything weird here?

That somebody hired this sketch artist?

[pcosmar]

Or the photo that was released was done so deliberately for the trial by Media. A photo that would make him look a crazy as possible.

[TNforPaul45]

CNN just released this picture of Loughner at his second arraignment. Looks like him to me. You Picture Altering Loonies are crazy!!!

http://www.solarnavigator.net/mythology/mythology_images/The_Devil.jpg

haha!

[pcosmar]

CNN just released this picture of Loughner at his second arraignment. Looks like him to me. You Picture Altering Loonies are crazy!!!

http://www.solarnavigator.net/mythology/mythology_images/The_Devil.jpg

haha!

Looks more like the Prosecutor.
;)

[teacherone]

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web05/2011/1/15/0/ive-done-a-simple-copy-flip-paste-of-his-24745-1295068808-1.jpg



I've done a simple Copy-Flip-Paste of his mugshot. Came out with his Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

[Philhelm]

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web05/2011/1/15/0/ive-done-a-simple-copy-flip-paste-of-his-24745-1295068808-1.jpg



I've done a simple Copy-Flip-Paste of his mugshot. Came out with his Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

Wow, the second one looks really demonic.

[Philhelm]

I will admit that I had found it odd that the released picture made him look so stereotypically crazy. The grin, the shaved eyebrows, the whole lot.

[dannno]

Ya this has been an obviously agenda driven story from the beginning.

[Dojo]

Some guy made a youtube about the mugshot (with a catchy lil tune)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6OtS_O6GGY

[Zippyjuan]

If the pic was doctored (ie doesn't look like he really does) does anybody actually know this person or have other pictures of him to compare it to? Mug shots are usually poorly lit and make most people look less attractive.

[pcosmar]

If the pic was doctored (ie doesn't look like he really does) does anybody actually know this person or have other pictures of him to compare it to? Mug shots are usually poorly lit and make most people look less attractive.

There have been a few posted in the other threads. As well as witnesses describing him as having hair. And the artist sketches of him with hair.

[Bruno]

There have been a few posted in the other threads. As well as witnesses describing him as having hair. And the artist sketches of him with hair.

Maybe they asked him if he wanted to shave his head and eyebrows, or encouraged it.

I haven't seen the pics of him in a g-string with his gun, supposedly taken the night before and developed at Walgreen's. Did he have hair in those photos? That he didn't have a digital camera is a little strange.

[pcosmar]

Some guy made a youtube about the mugshot (with a catchy lil tune)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6OtS_O6GGY

Does a good job of showing that it is heavily doctored.

The question is,,,WHY?

And is is being widely spread by every media outlet
Again,,WHY?

[jazzloversinc]

I believe he faked it, his girlfriend said he was acting insane so he doesn't get the death penalty and doesn't go to prison.

[dannno]

I believe he faked it, his girlfriend said he was acting insane so he doesn't get the death penalty and doesn't go to prison.

He faked his own mugshot :rolleyes:

[Bruno]

I believe he faked it, his girlfriend said he was acting insane so he doesn't get the death penalty and doesn't go to prison.

I didn't even know he had a girlfriend. Could you post a source where she said that? Thanks.

[oyarde]

I didn't even know he had a girlfriend. Could you post a source where she said that? Thanks.

I do not think he has a current girlfriend , but ( fox , maybe ) interviewed a couple of gals that used to be his girlfriend . The redhead said she thought he was faking the crazy . I think it may have been fri when I saw it ..

[Bruno]

I do not think he has a current girlfriend , but ( fox , maybe ) interviewed a couple of gals that used to be his girlfriend . The redhead said she thought he was faking the crazy . I think it may have been fri when I saw it ..

Cool, thanks. I had missed that. I would not be surprised.

[Feeding the Abscess]

It's not photoshopped. There are a couple of pictures of me where I'm half-grinning that have a similar "Joker" thing present.

[A. Havnes]

It's not photoshopped. There are a couple of pictures of me where I'm half-grinning that have a similar "Joker" thing present.

I'm not going to dispute the smirking thing, although you'd have to have an incredibly wide mouth to be able to stretch one side that far while still grinning on the other side. I practiced in a mirror last night and couldn't pull it off too well.

However, when you put it into photoshop and zoom in, it becomes increasingly apparent that this is a photoshopped picture, especially around his darkened eye. The corner of his mouth also shows inconsistency.

[pcosmar]

Yes, It was and is an altered picture. Evidence proves that.

The question that should be asked is why. Why was this Doctored Photo released almost immediately after his arrest ?, Released by an official office and widely distributed by media?
just one more "hmm".

[A. Havnes]

Yes, It was and is an altered picture. Evidence proves that.

The question that should be asked is why. Why was this Doctored Photo released almost immediately after his arrest ?, Released by an official office and widely distributed by media?
just one more "hmm".

Personal theory alert!

A.) To show that even "crazy" people (sorry, I'm antipsychiatry and can't help it) are able to access guns and therefore guns should be confiscated at once!

B.) To set forth a plan to screen everone in America for "mental illness". This is easy because it's all subjective. As there is no definate test to prove that someone's brain is off, it's very easy to label a person.

[puppetmaster]

Yes, It was and is an altered picture. Evidence proves that.

The question that should be asked is why. Why was this Doctored Photo released almost immediately after his arrest ?, Released by an official office and widely distributed by media?
just one more "hmm".

yep looks altered....def