200 Dead Cows Found in Portage County Field

[Patriotxi]

http://www.wsaw.com/news/headlines/Dead_Cows_Found_in_Portage_County_113634654.html?r ef=654
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEQI5AO6TVk

[Patriotxi]

crazy stuff lately!

[ronpaulhawaii]

anyone know if these were dairy or beef?

[Patriotxi]

anyone know if these were dairy or beef?

not sure, I will try to look that up

[pcosmar]

200 cows dead. Suddenly, Testing is being done.
A suspected virus.

There is no danger.

How exactly do they know that?

[Nate-ForLiberty]

For goodness sake, what is killing all these animals?

[AFPVet]

First birds, then sea creatures... and now cattle....

[Mini-Me]

I'd really like to see some reliable statistics on mass animal deaths. Are we seeing something unusual and ominous, or are we seeing something normal that is being reported more regularly for sensationalist reasons, so that it will seem more unusual and ominous (for instance in anticipation of 2012)?

On a random speculative note, I also wonder if any major agricorporations are considering killing off their competitors' livestock and making it look like just another one of these mysterious die-offs (or if that's what this actually is).

[speciallyblend]

is it possible for a magnetic field or a surge/shift in a magnetic field to cause these types of mass deaths in an animal?? just wondered!

[Legend1104]

Well maybe that article the other day about NATO being prepared for aliens was right.

Plus... if this virus killed 200 cows then how was/is it not a threat to other animals? Something that could kill that many cows doesn't just vanish.

[Patriotxi]

Well maybe that article the other day about NATO being prepared for aliens was right.

Plus... if this virus killed 200 cows then how was/is it not a threat to other animals? Something that could kill that many cows doesn't just vanish.

true

[osan]

On a random speculative note, I also wonder if any major agricorporations are considering killing off their competitors' livestock and making it look like just another one of these mysterious die-offs (or if that's what this actually is).

Doubt it. Too easy to get caught without the backing of sufficient power.

Killing them off to scare the general population into accepting changes to which they might not otherwise cotton, yes - that is eminently plausible.

Kill off just enough of the food to cause people to have to scurry about in search of sustenance - maybe even allow for a few tens of thousands of deaths from starvation or even just some food rioting. One might be surprised at what an effect that would have on soft Johnny Q. as a lever to get what one wishes.

[oyarde]

i remember reading of prior instances of this where lightening was thought to be the cause .

[oyarde]

I'd really like to see some reliable statistics on mass animal deaths. Are we seeing something unusual and ominous, or are we seeing something normal that is being reported more regularly for sensationalist reasons, so that it will seem more unusual and ominous (for instance in anticipation of 2012)?

On a random speculative note, I also wonder if any major agricorporations are considering killing off their competitors' livestock and making it look like just another one of these mysterious die-offs (or if that's what this actually is).

Very common throughout history for as little as one strike to kill hundreds of animals .

[Bruno]

i remember reading of prior instances of this where lightening was thought to be the cause .

For 200 cows, though? One or two, or a small group standing together, perhaps.


Very common throughout history for as little as one strike to kill hundreds of animals .

Either you learn something new every day or you are not paying attention.

[oyarde]

is it possible for a magnetic field or a surge/shift in a magnetic field to cause these types of mass deaths in an animal?? just wondered!

I would not think so in land animals .

[oyarde]

QUOTE=Bruno;3067607]For 200 cows, though? One or two, or a small group standing together, perhaps.



Either you learn something new every day or you are not paying attention.[/QUOTE]

I remember , maybe 850 sheep in Utah , maybe 250 pigs in Thailand etc. etc , google " Livestock killed by lightening " , you will seee what I mean . I saw a study out of Wisconsin once that estimated 100,000 per year ...

[Bruno]

I remember , maybe 850 sheep in Utah , maybe 250 pigs in Thailand etc. etc , google " Livestock killed by lightening " , you will seee what I mean . I saw a study out of Wisconsin once that estimated 100,000 per year ...

52 dead cows after lightning hit a wire fence

http://i53.tinypic.com/i4gwp2.jpg

[oyarde]

For 200 cows, though? One or two, or a small group standing together, perhaps.



Either you learn something new every day or you are not paying attention.

I must admit you lost me on the last sentence . No really sure what you meant . I do learn things every day and try to pay attention at least half of the time : )

[Bruno]

I must admit you lost me on the last sentence . No realy sure what you meant . I do learn things every day and try to pay attention at least half of the time : )

Sorry, I meant me! I learned something new today (like every other day). :)

[oyarde]

Sorry, I meant me! I learned something new today. :)

OK , i got it , thought I was missing something .

[oyarde]

It is very interesting how far the electricity can run around in the ground .

[oyarde]

Worst part is the meat has no commercial value once struck , it turns to a microwaved type texture .

[Bruno]

It is very interesting how far the electricity can run around in the ground .

google fulgurites. Pretty amazing.

http://www.google.com/images?q=fulgurite&um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch:1&prmd=ivns&ei=frc0TcncBoqr8AbB_bS8CA&start=20&sa=N

[oyarde]

google fulgurites. Pretty amazing.

http://www.google.com/images?q=fulgurite&um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch:1&prmd=ivns&ei=frc0TcncBoqr8AbB_bS8CA&start=20&sa=N

I have seen a few from the gulf coast . Neat .

[oyarde]

I had no idea there was an actual name for them .

[Bruno]

I have seen a few from the gulf coast . Neat .

I bet! I saw a show once where they were purposely attracting lightning to rods stuck in a rocky area, so they could create fulgurites to then study from.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2ezh0r8.jpg

Cool sequence of some people unearthing fulgurites.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.notjustrocks.com/uploads/112506-4L.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.notjustrocks.com/wst_page6.html&usg=__kox3XabRJqBc9f5fjcMVuOBOFmg=&h=600&w=900&sz=199&hl=en&start=33&zoom=1&tbnid=ePsL3vopZd7t0M:&tbnh=97&tbnw=146&ei=mLc0TYfPKMG88gbgqdXNCA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfulgurite%26start%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl% 3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1%26prmd%3Divns&um=1&itbs=1

[oyarde]

I bet! I saw a show once where they were purposely attracting lightning to rods stuck in a rocky area, so they could create fulgurites to then study from.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2ezh0r8.jpg

I have heard rumors of places in India with LARGE glass like that , having only been there once prior to hearing that , I have not been able to check it out .

[pcosmar]

All very interesting.
But the incident in question said nothing about Lightning or storms.
It did however mention that a virus was suspected, and that samples were taken and being tested.

So if a virus (or something) kills 200 cows,,, how is it stated that there is no danger to people or animals?

[oyarde]

All very interesting.
But the incident in question said nothing about Lightning or storms.
It did however mention that a virus was suspected, and that samples were taken and being tested.

So if a virus (or something) kills 200 cows,,, how is it stated that there is no danger to people or animals?

I do wonder why a virus would be the first suspicion. If it was a virus , they should not all die at once .

[oyarde]

If the farmer suspected IBR or BVD virus , they should be having breathing problems and a tremendous amount of feces , which would easily be evident ..... they should not have all dropped dead at once .

[pcosmar]

If the farmer suspected IBR or BVD virus , they should be having breathing problems and a tremendous amount of feces , which would easily be evident ..... they should not have all dropped dead at once .


http://www.wsaw.com/news/headlines/Dead_Cows_Found_in_Portage_County_113634654.html?r ef=654
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEQI5AO6TVk

I agree, Animals should not just drop dead at once.

[oyarde]

This guy may be able to turn this in on his insurance .

[pcosmar]

This guy may be able to turn this in on his insurance .

Not the point.

[oyarde]

Not the point.

Yeah , I know , but I am sitting here thinking what a tremendous financial hit that could be .

[oyarde]

If they all died at once , I guess lightning strike . Vet should be able to determine virus if this was a common virus .

[pcosmar]

If they all died at once , I guess lightning strike . Vet should be able to determine virus if this was a common virus .

Well according to the report. that is being investigated. And lightning isn't.
Still a virus that can kill a herd quickly,,,would be of concern.

I was surprised (sort of) by the claim that there is no danger. How would they know that?

[oyarde]

Well according to the report. that is being investigated. And lightning isn't.
Still a virus that can kill a herd quickly,,,would be of concern.

I was surprised (sort of) by the claim that there is no danger. How would they know that?

Me too , would they not worry about other livestock ? Or is this guy way remote from everyone else ?

[oyarde]

At this point , It also crosses my mind the guy writing the article ... maybe it is beneficial if it is a bit more mysterious .

[awake]

Was the operation loosing money? People do destroy their own property and production for the right incentives.

In the Great Depression livestock was purposely destroyed wholesale for "economic reasons".

[pcosmar]

There are several possible scenarios that can cross my mind. That they claim "No Danger" raises a little suspicion.
A comment on the story raised it a bit more.
possibilities,,
Poison, by either a competitor, a developer, or a disgruntled neighbor. someone that wanted the cows gone)
Chemical/Biological weapon Accidental or on purpose. (government has both tested and lost weapons before)

That is speculation. The news statement of "No Danger" was not.

[Patriotxi]

There are several possible scenarios that can cross my mind. That they claim "No Danger" raises a little suspicion.
A comment on the story raised it a bit more.
possibilities,,
Poison, by either a competitor, a developer, or a disgruntled neighbor. someone that wanted the cows gone)
Chemical/Biological weapon Accidental or on purpose. (government has both tested and lost weapons before)

That is speculation. The news statement of "No Danger" was not.

I think you could be right!

[oyarde]

1918 , 654 sheep killed by lightning strike American Fork Canyon , Utah . Raft River Mountains , Utah , 1939 ( I think ) 835 sheep killed .

[wildfirepower]

1918 , 654 sheep killed by lightning strike American Fork Canyon , Utah . Raft River Mountains , Utah , 1939 ( I think ) 835 sheep killed .
Ligthning is a creation of God.

[oyarde]

Ligthning is a creation of God.

It is natures fertilizer , producing nitrogen .

[oyarde]

It is natures fertilizer , producing nitrogen .

Not so good for livestock though .

[AFPVet]

It could be that these are natural phenomena which are magnified via increased media.... Or it could be a localized anti-biological weapons test. After all, radio frequencies can be fatal when localized and concentrated.

[Bruno]

1918 , 654 sheep killed by lightning strike American Fork Canyon , Utah . Raft River Mountains , Utah , 1939 ( I think ) 835 sheep killed .

If it is common for so many animals to be killed in mass by lightning, why is it so uncommon to hear about the same numbers with humans in mass deaths?

[oyarde]

If it is common for so many animals to be killed in mass by lightning, why is it so uncommon to hear about the same numbers with humans in mass deaths?

It would be if we were not inside and were all standing in a pasture .

[oyarde]

Somewhere on the net is a photo of an Australian cow that survived a lightning strike . It has a burn all the way down the side . I remember seeing it before . You could probably google it .

[Bruno]

It would be if we were not inside and were all standing in a pasture .

We do. Football, baseball, soccer, races, etc.

[oyarde]

We do. Football, baseball, soccer, races, etc.

Excellent point , but here they call them for lightning . The time I was struck was on a football field .

[Ranger29860]

We do. Football, baseball, soccer, races, etc.

That actualy happend in a soccer game once. There was a video of it ill see if i can get it off youtube.

[Ranger29860]

We do. Football, baseball, soccer, races, etc.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/203137.stm

Didnt know about this one. But yeah we do get struck by lightning.

[Bruno]

Excellent point , but here they call them for lightning . The time I was struck was on a football field .

You were hit by lightning? Damn, how bad was it?

I've seen games played when they shouldn't have, especially when it was close and towards then end. Even little league games. And lightning can travel up to 10 miles, often people don't call games until the lightning is closer.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/203137.stm

Didnt know about this one. But yeah we do get struck by lightning.

Wtf! Wow, that is crazy. Thanks for finding that.

[Patriotxi]

Moooooooo!

[pcosmar]

I guess I am not the only one to find this odd.
http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-hartford/200-dead-cows-wisconsin-too-many-missing-facts-about-the-dead-cows

NEW INFO
http://www.wsaw.com/home/headlines/200_Cows_Die_in_Portage_County_113829069.html

Still little,, but absolutely not a lightning strike.
These animals died quickly from whatever killed them. (Within 12 hours)
but there is no threat to people or animals.
:confused:
That is stressed in every story
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=200+cows&cp=8&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=0v&aqi=&aql=&oq=200+cows&pbx=1&fp=fd0f73886609171d

[Madly_Sane]

is it possible for a magnetic field or a surge/shift in a magnetic field to cause these types of mass deaths in an animal?? just wondered!

Then wouldn't there be mass deaths in humans as well? I mean, if most creatures are having mass deaths, what's preventing humans from dying? If it is something biological killing them, then I imagine it is all our anti-biotics that are protecting us, even things such as Aspirin/Tylenol.

[oyarde]

You were hit by lightning? Damn, how bad was it?

I've seen games played when they shouldn't have, especially when it was close and towards then end. Even little league games. And lightning can travel up to 10 miles, often people don't call games until the lightning is closer.



Wtf! Wow, that is crazy. Thanks for finding that.

It hit the field near me , I did not really remember it coming up through my body from the ground , but could feel it exit my head and my hair was standing straight up .

[oyarde]

I guess I am not the only one to find this odd.
http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-hartford/200-dead-cows-wisconsin-too-many-missing-facts-about-the-dead-cows

NEW INFO
http://www.wsaw.com/home/headlines/200_Cows_Die_in_Portage_County_113829069.html

Still little,, but absolutely not a lightning strike.
These animals died quickly from whatever killed them. (Within 12 hours)
but there is no threat to people or animals.
:confused:
That is stressed in every story
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=200+cows&cp=8&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=0v&aqi=&aql=&oq=200+cows&pbx=1&fp=fd0f73886609171d

Any test results on this virus yet ?

[Bruno]

It hit the field near me , I did not really remember it coming up through my body from the ground , but could feel it exit my head and my hair was standing straight up .

Wow, close call!

[AFPVet]

I still think that a high powered radio weapon may be being tested. Possibly something space based which can be aimed and localized—the inverse of a HAARP-like device.

[oyarde]

I still think that a high powered radio weapon may be being tested. Possibly something space based which can be aimed and localized—the inverse of a HAARP-like device.

Surely not .... would they not procure own livestock to destroy ?

[oyarde]

That way , there would be no evidence to cover up , no newspaper story ..

[AFPVet]

That way , there would be no evidence to cover up , no newspaper story ..

This is true... unless it would also serve as a distraction :(

[oyarde]

Any word on a virus today ??

[pcosmar]

Any word on a virus today ??

Inconclusive.


However Blum tells WRN, the lab tests have come back inconclusive.
http://www.wrn.com/2011/01/still-no-definite-cause-in-mass-cow-deaths/

STEVENS POINT - Preliminary test results show that 200 steers that recently died on a farm east of Stevens Point most likely died from an acute interstitial pneumonia.

The farm’s veterinary service said there was no risk to other animals or humans as a result of the Holstein deaths at J&M Farms in the Portage County town of Stockton. It’s not known what caused the pneumonia, but vets are still investigating.
http://www.piercecountyherald.com/event/article/id/32342/

is it weird to have suspected that?

[AFPVet]

This now seems to be purely coincidental. Perhaps we have just magnified our observations since it is getting closer to 2012.

[oyarde]

This now seems to be purely coincidental. Perhaps we have just magnified our observations since it is getting closer to 2012.

I think so .