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TXcarlosTX
01-13-2011, 01:29 PM
From Debra's facebook page.

"Best wishes to Senator Hutchison as she announces retirement at end of current term...and special thanks, Senator, for committing to serve until the end of the current term so as not to require Texas to hold special election"


What do you guys think?

Stary Hickory
01-13-2011, 01:32 PM
It could not hurt she should at least run and see how she does.

Brett85
01-13-2011, 01:33 PM
Doesn't Ron Paul have another son who lives in Texas as well?

TXcarlosTX
01-13-2011, 01:37 PM
Doesn't Ron Paul have another son who lives in Texas as well?

HA!!! Your dreaming man. But it wouldn't it be cool to have another PAUL in the Senate!!! Actually it wouldn't be cool. It would be gangster.

MRoCkEd
01-13-2011, 01:41 PM
I don't think she'll be able to overcome the "9/11 truther" stuff, unfortunately. I really hope I'm wrong.

DXDoug
01-13-2011, 01:41 PM
indeed if She could get on the ticket as R she would win instantly. we need hope this happens for TX and the senate

Flash
01-13-2011, 01:46 PM
I don't think she'll be able to overcome the "9/11 truther" stuff, unfortunately. I really hope I'm wrong.

I'm sure she will. Blumenthal lied about being in Vietnam and still managed to win Connecticut.

erowe1
01-13-2011, 01:47 PM
I have my doubts that Medina could do better in another statewide election than she did in the last one.

The best person who I think could possibly win this senate seat is RP himself. But he'd have to decide to do that instead of run for pres.

Brett85
01-13-2011, 01:50 PM
I have my doubts that Medina could do better in another statewide election than she did in the last one.

The best person who I think could possibly win this senate seat is RP himself. But he'd have to decide to do that instead of run for pres.

Yeah. I once suggested that Ron Paul should run for this Senate seat rather than President, and a flame war ensued.

RonPaulFanInGA
01-13-2011, 01:52 PM
I don't think she'll be able to overcome the "9/11 truther" stuff, unfortunately.

This.

It ain't going away. That appearance on Glenn Beck's radio show permanently killed Debra Medina's chances at winning statewide elected office. She should look for a U.S. House or state legislature seat to run for.

TonySutton
01-13-2011, 01:52 PM
Who would her competition be?

Flash
01-13-2011, 01:52 PM
Yeah. I once suggested that Ron Paul should run for this Senate seat rather than President, and a flame war ensued.

He's old and close to retirement. He would only serve one term in the Senate. But if he runs for President he could educate millions of people on libertarian ideas.

low preference guy
01-13-2011, 01:53 PM
It ain't going away. Glenn Beck permanently killed Debra Medina's chances at winning statewide elected office.

Back to 4%!

low preference guy
01-13-2011, 01:53 PM
He's old and close to retirement. He would only serve one term in the Senate. But if he runs for President he could educate millions of people on libertarian ideas.

Better yet, he could do that and also win and suspend the income tax.

Brett85
01-13-2011, 01:55 PM
He's old and close to retirement. He would only serve one term in the Senate. But if he runs for President he could educate millions of people on libertarian ideas.

Yes, but having him actually win is what I care about. I don't think that Ron Paul should run for President again if he's simply running to educate people rather than running to win.

DXDoug
01-13-2011, 02:11 PM
you really think one show on glen BECk any one watched! Medina could do it . any one CAN WE Just need to know who and SUPPORT THEM

Galileo Galilei
01-13-2011, 02:18 PM
Doesn't Ron Paul have another son who lives in Texas as well?

Ron Paul's other son Dr. Robert Paul speech [the next US Senator from Texas] (VIDEO)
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/134335

TheTyke
01-13-2011, 02:22 PM
People here are exaggerating the lasting effects of the Beck betrayal... Medina had virtually no money ($300K?) while her opponents spent tens of millions. Despite this she was surging and Beck had to intervene to stop her momentum. Although she fumbled and he succeeded, she STILL got 18.6% - way, way WAY more than Ron got in 2008. Imagine what she could do if she had enough money to rival her opponents?

People underestimate how important money is. Trust me... Rand wouldn't have won if we hadn't kept up with our Establishment opponents. If Medina runs, we need to finance her big time. She can win - she made epic strides in the last election. I hope she does run!

jmdrake
01-13-2011, 02:28 PM
I don't think she'll be able to overcome the "9/11 truther" stuff, unfortunately. I really hope I'm wrong.

That all depends on her. Rand overcame a worse problem with regards to the CRA. Medina's problem is that she let herself get conned into attacking her own supporters. The Beck attack became a self fulfilling prophecy. If she can stick with the line "I haven't taken that position, but I respect the rights of people like Judge Andrew Napalitano and Geraldo Rivera who have" then Beck won't be able to derail her again.

HOLLYWOOD
01-13-2011, 02:59 PM
Here's the article from the Dallas Morning News: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/011411dntexhutchison.ae8333f3.html

Typical political BS Press Release.


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'It's time for a new person,' U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison says

01:47 PM CST on Thursday, January 13, 2011

By GROMER JEFFERS JR. / The Dallas Morning News
gjeffers@dallasnews.com Kay Bailey Hutchison (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Kay_Bailey_Hutchison) said today that she will not seek another term in the U.S. Senate (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/U.S._Senate).
“I have known since 2006 that I wouldn’t seek another term,” the senator said in a telephone interview. “I wanted to announce it on my own terms and in my own way
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Hutchison, first elected to the Senate in 1993, said the swearing-in of the new Congress, among other things, made her feel it was the right moment to announce her resignation.
She predicted that her departure from the political scene would set off a rampage of candidates looking to replace her.
“It’s just time for people to start making their plans,” Hutchison said. “Now it’s time for a new person.”
Likely Republican (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/U.S._Republican_Party) contenders to succeed her include Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, Dallas Mayor Tom Leppert (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Tom_Leppert) , state Sen. Florence Shapiro (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Florence_Shapiro) of Plano (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Plano%2C_Texas) , Railroad Commissioners Elizabeth Ames Jones and Michael Williams (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Michael_Williams), Weatherford car dealer Roger Williams (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Roger_Williams), and Ted Cruz, a former Texas solicitor general and candidate for state attorney general.
Possible Democratic contenders include former Texas Comptroller John Sharp and former Houston mayor Bill White (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Bill_White).
Leppert, long rumored to be interested in a Senate run, issued a statement that praised Hutchison's record while offering no hint of his own plans.
"I want to join with so many Texans in thanking Kay for her outstanding service to our state and our nation," the mayor said. "Clearly she has been a strong advocate and has fought tenaciously for the interests of Texas. In addition, she has been a good friend and champion of Dallas.”
Hutchison she would serve out her current term, which ends in 2012.

The 67-year-old senator said she had no regrets about her life in public office, which included a stint in the Texas Legislature, election as the state treasurer and, last year, a failed race for Texas governor. Hutchison was defeated in the 2010 Republican primary by incumbent Gov. Rick Perry (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Rick_Perry), who went on to win handily in November against White.
Today, she called Perry to tell him of her decision.

She also talked to Sen. John Cornyn (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/John_Cornyn), R-San Antonio (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/San_Antonio), and other members of the Texas delegation to Congress.
“I feel good about my record,” she said. “I’ve accomplished so much.”
Hutchison said she did not know what she would do after leaving the Senate, but retirement doesn't seem to be in the cards. She said she looked forward to working in some capacity the private sector.

She said she would not rule out another run for political office, though no such race is in her immediate plans.
Asked if she would be interested in running for mayor of Dallas this spring, she laughed and said, “Oh, no.”
In her first Senate race 18 years ago, she beat Democrat (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/U.S._Democratic_Party) Bob Krueger (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Bob_Krueger_%28politician%29). That was a special election called to fill the seat vacated by Democrat Lloyd Bentsen (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Lloyd_Bentsen) , who resigned to serve as President Bill Clinton's (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Bill_Clinton) treasury secretary.
Before her loss last year to Perry, she'd been described as one of the most effective vote-getters in the history of Texas.
Still, some analysts predicted that she would have a hard time winning re-election to the Senate in 2012. They said her race against Perry had exposed a vulnerability, making it possible for a conservative Republican to outflank her on the right in a GOP primary.
Hutchison, however, said today that she never considered running for re-election to the Senate.
She often changed her mind regarding her plans. She initially said she would resign to focus on running for governor, but ultimately stayed put.

In a letter to supporters, she wrote: “The last two years have been difficult, especially for my family, but I felt it would be wrong to leave the Senate during such a critical period.”
She said she didn’t want to leave early and prompt a special election for the seat.
“Instead of putting my seat into a special election, I felt it was my duty to use my experience to fight the massive spending that has increased our national debt; the government takeover of the health care system; and the growth of the federal bureaucracy, which threatens our economy,” she wrote. “I will continue to fight until the end of my term in 2012.”

Though her announcement was expected in some circles, it still shook the Texas landscape.

“It’s the end of an era,” said Dallas County Republican Party Chairman Jonathan Neerman. “She’s been involved in Texas politics for more than 30 years. It’s a loss for Texas.”

specsaregood
01-13-2011, 03:00 PM
That all depends on her. Rand overcame a worse problem with regards to the CRA.
Not in regards to a Republican primary. Every major right wing pundit defended Rand, not gonna happen with Medina.
With that said, I don't think its necessarily a killer for her.

Matt Collins
01-13-2011, 03:03 PM
I don't think she'll be able to overcome the "9/11 truther" stuff, unfortunately. I really hope I'm wrong.
That can be fixed with some good narrative marketing.

I have my doubts that Medina could do better in another statewide election than she did in the last one.She was on track to winning the previous election. Beck colluded with the Perry campaign to knock her out of the race. If you follow the polls you'll see that she was about to peak on election day.

That won't happen again.


Yeah. I once suggested that Ron Paul should run for this Senate seat rather than President, and a flame war ensued.No way, we need him in the House. We have Rand in the Senate.

Matt Collins
01-13-2011, 03:05 PM
Doesn't Ron Paul have another son who lives in Texas as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdVxAwWFR0k

fisharmor
01-13-2011, 03:09 PM
It ain't going away. That appearance on Glenn Beck's radio show permanently killed Debra Medina's chances at winning statewide elected office. She should look for a U.S. House or state legislature seat to run for.

The 911 truther thing is no different from the attacks on RP by Guiliani, or when Douchey McDouche called him out with "who are you disagreeing with" over the Iran naval confrontation.
He got publicly ridiculed at a presidential debate by the moderator, and the entire place laughed at him.
But he still has more national cred now than he started with.

Nobody gets to get on stage and say something diametrically opposed to conventional wisdom and get away with it the first time.
RP had the stones to stick it out, and he's winning.
If Medina has the metaphorical stones, then she'll win, too.

Brown Sapper
01-13-2011, 03:15 PM
I think the only major candidates she will face is Dan Patrick in the primaries, which will be the hard part. He has a major following cause of his radio show. If she can beat him, she will have to face Bill White in the general which will be easy cause she will have the majority of straight ticket voters on her side. Nobody really likes White anyways.

HOLLYWOOD
01-13-2011, 03:22 PM
Debra Medina better have besides the Tea Party backing, a lot more money and a REAL WAR ROOM staff of professionals (Rand could help here). The Payola Main Stream Media did a job on railroading her from all angles in the run for governorship. Whether it is National or State/Local level, the whores in Press did a fine job of defamation and discrediting and maybe it's because of revenue spending in their rags or meeting with newspaper editorial boards. Hit Pieces from biggies like, National Christian Science Monitor, all the way to Liberal Establishment Rags like; Houston Chronicle, Austin American-Statesman.

Debra will need money up front and a team that can execute ruthless success in marketing/sales/media.


If she can beat him, she will have to face Bill White in the general... White will have most metro area print(Liberal) endorsing him again.

Brett85
01-13-2011, 03:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdVxAwWFR0k

Yes. I remember watching that video before. I just wasn't completely sure what state he was from. It would be awesome if he ran. Two Paul's in the Senate!

leipo
01-13-2011, 03:34 PM
How about Jesse Benton? He seems like a good pick to me. What do you guys think?

Brown Sapper
01-13-2011, 03:37 PM
Look likes White won't be running

http://blogs.chron.com/texaspolitics/archives/2011/01/hutchisons_reti.html

sailingaway
01-13-2011, 03:39 PM
I think we should see if Ron wants to run. With his committee, he might not want to run, but still...

If he doesn't, I think she'd be great. Don't know if she'd win.

But when she first said she would drop out while running for governor, Ron said he might run, when he was asked. Then it would have been a special election, though, and clearly WOULDN'T have given him problems in his House run if he ran for that too.

erowe1
01-13-2011, 03:41 PM
The more I think about it, I hope Medina does run.

She has an existing statewide network of support from 2010 that's strongly devoted to her, so she'll start the race with a head start. Plus, having that network mobilized statewide for her campaign will help RP in the Texas presidential primary.

sailingaway
01-13-2011, 03:42 PM
Not in regards to a Republican primary. Every major right wing pundit defended Rand, not gonna happen with Medina.
With that said, I don't think its necessarily a killer for her.

They defended him because he ALREADY won the primary. If trey had still been a contender, I wonder if they would have done.

Galileo Galilei
01-13-2011, 03:44 PM
Ron Paul’s son Robert running for Congress?
http://libertymaven.com/2008/03/01/ron-pauls-son-robert-running-for-congress/940/

Liberty_Mike
01-13-2011, 03:48 PM
Ron Paul’s son Robert running for Congress?
http://libertymaven.com/2008/03/01/ron-pauls-son-robert-running-for-congress/940/

Would be awesome to see Robert run for Congress and Medina run for Senate!

Galileo Galilei
01-13-2011, 03:50 PM
Would be awesome to see Robert run for Congress and Medina run for Senate!

that would be nice, but Robert Paul would make a much stronger Senate candidate.

Brown Sapper
01-13-2011, 03:50 PM
Here is another tea party candidate that has been running for that seat since 2010. He issues seem on point, but there is nothing on it about his stance on the war and other crucial issues. He could also get a crossover vote cause he is not the typical WASP.

http://www.williamsfortexas.com/home

RP Supporter
01-13-2011, 04:03 PM
I've heard that the Lt. Governor might run. Williams almost definitely will. Medina should run. She probably would have a devoted base in the high teens, and if she can expand that a bit with people who don't like the other candidates, I think she could win a primary. Does Texas have a runoff rule though? I know they do for governor races, but I'm unsure about Senate elections. If that happens, she have a harder time, especially since she'll likely be competing against some big names. However, I think she'd be better funded and more experienced this time around.

As for the 9/11 issue, count me as one who thought the interview she gave with Beck was a disaster. Her actual views don't concern me, but I thought her statements could be used as easy fodder in today's sound bite age. However, it should be noted that I'm something of a worrywart, and I thought Rand's campaign was over around three times. So the public has surprised me in the past. And I also think her response after the interview was excellent,and helped her recaptue much of the momentum the issue cost her. As long as she'd rehearsed and can avoid further ambushes, I doubt it will be a deal breaker. Texans in 2012 are going to want someone who opposes Obama and big government, and if Medina can tap into that sentiment and point out how her opponents in the primary would compromise while she would steadfastly fight(As Rand Paul successfully did), she'll have a real shot.

Brett85
01-13-2011, 04:04 PM
They defended him because he ALREADY won the primary. If trey had still been a contender, I wonder if they would have done.

But Rand actually made that comment during the GOP primary. Trey chose not to pounce on it. It didn't blow up until after the primary.

Brett85
01-13-2011, 04:17 PM
Ron Paul’s son Robert running for Congress?
http://libertymaven.com/2008/03/01/ron-pauls-son-robert-running-for-congress/940/

This is from way back in 2008. That was before Rand ran for the Senate and became a Senator. Now that Rand is a Senator, Robert may really be considering it.

sailingaway
01-13-2011, 04:31 PM
But Rand actually made that comment during the GOP primary. Trey chose not to pounce on it. It didn't blow up until after the primary.

It didn't blow up because conservatives don't pretend what he said was racist. I just meant, when they DEFENDED him, it wasn't against other GOP in a primary, but against a Dem, which is pretty much a no brainer for the right media.

muzzled dogg
01-13-2011, 04:55 PM
lol rob paul

TXcarlosTX
01-13-2011, 04:57 PM
medina/paul or bust!!!

muzzled dogg
01-13-2011, 05:04 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Texas,_2012

Kotin
01-13-2011, 05:09 PM
I think she is too focused on state issues.. and I agree with her in that respect..

t0rnado
01-13-2011, 07:35 PM
The senate primary is going to have a lot more candidates than the gubernatorial election did, so that might be a positive factor. I don't see Medina's 19% voting block abandoning her during the Senate primary.

purplechoe
01-13-2011, 07:40 PM
lol rob paul


Peter?

libertarian4321
01-15-2011, 07:22 AM
That can be fixed with some good narrative marketing.


Yes, she will have to come out and clearly state that she doesn't believe in "the truth" (as the truthers see it).


She was on track to winning the previous election. Beck colluded with the Perry campaign to knock her out of the race.

Conspiracy or not, she should have done a better job with that truther question. I don't like Beck or Perry, but I don't blame them for Medina's collapse. She (and her staff) should have been ready for that question.

I still remember hearing her on the radio. I almost drove my truck into a tree. A true "WTF did she just say?" sort of moment...

Zap!
01-15-2011, 11:38 AM
Yeah. I once suggested that Ron Paul should run for this Senate seat rather than President, and a flame war ensued.

I know there feeling. My Ron Paul For Senate Facebook page only has three likes. :)

amonasro
01-15-2011, 11:48 AM
This.

It ain't going away. That appearance on Glenn Beck's radio show permanently killed Debra Medina's chances at winning statewide elected office. She should look for a U.S. House or state legislature seat to run for.

Not necessarily. Her campaign could spin it as a trap by Beck (which it was, and a sound clip of him and his peanut gallery could provide proof), come out with a bold statement about 9/11 and be done with it. If her opponent kept bringing it up she could take personal offense, stating that it dishonors the victims.

trey4sports
01-15-2011, 11:48 AM
Robert Paul for Senate 2012

Churchill2004
01-15-2011, 11:52 AM
My understanding is that Ron was considering running back when the rumor was it would be a special election. He wouldn't have to resign his House seat for a special election unless he won. A regular election means his House term would also be up, and he can't run for both at the same time.

I like the idea of Rob Paul or Medina running, though I've also heard that DeMint is interested in this Railroad Commissioner guy, I forget his name. I'd much rather have DeMint beat to the punch on this, so he has to support our candidate and not vice versa.

Zap!
01-15-2011, 07:06 PM
My understanding is that Ron was considering running back when the rumor was it would be a special election. He wouldn't have to resign his House seat for a special election unless he won. A regular election means his House term would also be up, and he can't run for both at the same time.

I like the idea of Rob Paul or Medina running, though I've also heard that DeMint is interested in this Railroad Commissioner guy, I forget his name. I'd much rather have DeMint beat to the punch on this, so he has to support our candidate and not vice versa.

He're exactly how it works.

There won't be any resigning at all. If Ron runs for Senate or President, and wins the nomination, then he can't run for re-election (but can keep his seat until the next Congress in January, 2013). However, if he runs and doesn't get the Republican nomination, he can run for re-election.

TCE
01-15-2011, 07:20 PM
He're exactly how it works.

There won't be any resigning at all. If Ron runs for Senate or President, and wins the nomination, then he can't run for re-election (but can keep his seat until the next Congress in January, 2013). However, if he runs and doesn't get the Republican nomination, he can run for re-election.

Uh...what? In Texas, if Ron runs for the Senate seat, he can't run for his House seat. It's the same here in Illinois. However, one can run for President/Vice President and their current seat (See: Joe Biden in 2008).

DeMint supports Mr. Williams, one of the railroad commissioners. We had two chances to get Texas polled by Public Policy Polling a month or so ago and both times we failed to win the online poll. So, we all could have had an idea where she is now, but instead, we go in blind. Without a poll or two showing her having a competitive percentage, Medina doesn't deserve support. This might just be a race where we have no chance and it might make sense to seek other Senate alternatives, such as in Nevada where John Ensign is probably going to lose his primary or some other state we have a chance at. We might have a chance in:

Indiana: If Richard Lugar retires.
Maine: If we can find a nice liberty Senate candidate to knock Olympia Snowe out of the primary and paint himself as a centrist. This is potentially a golden opportunity.
Michigan: If Debbie Stabenow seems vulnerable.
Nebraska: If Ben Nelson still appears weak and we can field a good challenger to win the primary.
New Mexico: If Gary Johnson runs.
Ohio: If Sherrod Brown appears weak.
Tennessee: If a substantial Primary challenge is mounted against Bob Corker. We will need some serious help from the TN Republicans, Teh Collins, and JMDrake.
Utah: If Jason Chaffetz wants to repeat Mike Lee's success in the convention.
Wisconsin: If Herb Kohl retires. Would Terri McCormick consider running for the Senate?

Our best chances are in bold.

DXDoug
01-15-2011, 07:49 PM
i dont see ron giving up his seat in the house for a senate seat. It just needs to be found a canidate if not medina then someone that is ron paul related to run. medina's name is ateast known by people so she would have atleast that much more of a advantage cuz she has ran recently. :rolleyes:

medina or someone less known eitherway we need to know SO we can get a forum and launch the start of the campaign for this ! we can gain seats and keep em.

Zap!
01-15-2011, 07:52 PM
Uh...what? In Texas, if Ron runs for the Senate seat, he can't run for his House seat. It's the same here in Illinois. However, one can run for President/Vice President and their current seat (See: Joe Biden in 2008).

DeMint supports Mr. Williams, one of the railroad commissioners. We had two chances to get Texas polled by Public Policy Polling a month or so ago and both times we failed to win the online poll. So, we all could have had an idea where she is now, but instead, we go in blind. Without a poll or two showing her having a competitive percentage, Medina doesn't deserve support. This might just be a race where we have no chance and it might make sense to seek other Senate alternatives, such as in Nevada where John Ensign is probably going to lose his primary or some other state we have a chance at. We might have a chance in:

Indiana: If Richard Lugar retires.
Maine: If we can find a nice liberty Senate candidate to knock Olympia Snowe out of the primary and paint himself as a centrist. This is potentially a golden opportunity.
Michigan: If Debbie Stabenow seems vulnerable.
Nebraska: If Ben Nelson still appears weak and we can field a good challenger to win the primary.
New Mexico: If Gary Johnson runs.
Ohio: If Sherrod Brown appears weak.
Tennessee: If a substantial Primary challenge is mounted against Bob Corker. We will need some serious help from the TN Republicans, Teh Collins, and JMDrake.
Utah: If Jason Chaffetz wants to repeat Mike Lee's success in the convention.
Wisconsin: If Herb Kohl retires. Would Terri McCormick consider running for the Senate?

Our best chances are in bold.

I see what your saying, my mistake. One possible way around it: Ron Paul announces he's going for the Senate. Three months before the Republican primary, Ron sees that he's way behind in the polls, and bows out. Can he run for re-election to his House seat now?

CaseyJones
01-15-2011, 08:29 PM
she is iirc an unabashed non interventionist on foreign policy
do not see how she could win being so sadly

libertybrewcity
01-16-2011, 12:03 AM
Medina just needs to win the primary. She has a network of supporters already. We would surely help her raise some money. The key to winning besides from us is getting the PACs on her side. They have been key to all the tea party candidates primary victories (for the most part) from Angle to Rubio to Lee, etc.

Galileo Galilei
01-16-2011, 12:06 AM
From Debra's facebook page.

"Best wishes to Senator Hutchison as she announces retirement at end of current term...and special thanks, Senator, for committing to serve until the end of the current term so as not to require Texas to hold special election"


What do you guys think?

God forsake we have a special election. Yeah, let's leave the idiot in there for an extra two years so we don't have to have one. Hey, why don't we lengthen Senate terms to 14 years like with the Federal Reserve so we can save money on elections!

Imperial
01-16-2011, 12:44 AM
Would be awesome to see Robert run for Congress and Medina run for Senate!

If he ran for House, it would be in the 12th district where Republican Kay Granger would be incumbent.

libertybrewcity
01-16-2011, 04:09 AM
since texas is adding four new congressional districts, this is the perfect chance to get some liberty candidates in there. who knows, maybe medina will be in a freshly drawn district.

itshappening
01-16-2011, 05:09 AM
Uh...what? In Texas, if Ron runs for the Senate seat, he can't run for his House seat. It's the same here in Illinois. However, one can run for President/Vice President and their current seat (See: Joe Biden in 2008).

DeMint supports Mr. Williams, one of the railroad commissioners. We had two chances to get Texas polled by Public Policy Polling a month or so ago and both times we failed to win the online poll. So, we all could have had an idea where she is now, but instead, we go in blind. Without a poll or two showing her having a competitive percentage, Medina doesn't deserve support. This might just be a race where we have no chance and it might make sense to seek other Senate alternatives, such as in Nevada where John Ensign is probably going to lose his primary or some other state we have a chance at. We might have a chance in:

Indiana: If Richard Lugar retires.
Maine: If we can find a nice liberty Senate candidate to knock Olympia Snowe out of the primary and paint himself as a centrist. This is potentially a golden opportunity.
Michigan: If Debbie Stabenow seems vulnerable.
Nebraska: If Ben Nelson still appears weak and we can field a good challenger to win the primary.
New Mexico: If Gary Johnson runs.
Ohio: If Sherrod Brown appears weak.
Tennessee: If a substantial Primary challenge is mounted against Bob Corker. We will need some serious help from the TN Republicans, Teh Collins, and JMDrake.
Utah: If Jason Chaffetz wants to repeat Mike Lee's success in the convention.
Wisconsin: If Herb Kohl retires. Would Terri McCormick consider running for the Senate?

Our best chances are in bold.

They're not our best chances.

Medina is known and has name recognition, your thesis is based on "if only we can find a good candidate" in those primaries/states.

That's easier said than done and there is no one we know of or have knowledge of, a lot of the professionals who will be running will be neocons or already bought off.

If Medina runs she is known to us/unabashed Ron Pauler and will have a subforum and support, along with the name ID after taking nearly a quarter of the vote in the governor race.

Fuck DeMint.

There will be polls on Texas sooner or later and Medina will be included unless she announces she wont run because the polling firms know that it's possible she will run and that she would be a credible challenger.

Eric21ND
01-16-2011, 10:38 AM
How about Jesse Benton? He seems like a good pick to me. What do you guys think?

*crickets*

Eric21ND
01-16-2011, 10:40 AM
Yes, she will have to come out and clearly state that she doesn't believe in "the truth" (as the truthers see it).



Conspiracy or not, she should have done a better job with that truther question. I don't like Beck or Perry, but I don't blame them for Medina's collapse. She (and her staff) should have been ready for that question.

I still remember hearing her on the radio. I almost drove my truck into a tree. A true "WTF did she just say?" sort of moment...
I almost spit out whatever it was I was drinking. I was like coaching her from my chair, "Say No Debra, Say NO!"

Eric21ND
01-16-2011, 10:46 AM
Debra is the lead horse here. An unknown Paul family member I would consider about on equal footing. You really can't go wrong with either. Another Paul running for Senate would be huge news in the mainstream media.

TXcarlosTX
01-16-2011, 11:01 AM
Debra is the lead horse here. An unknown Paul family member I would consider about on equal footing. You really can't go wrong with either. Another Paul running for Senate would be huge news in the mainstream media.


Yup. Local radio likes Medina and Paul

doctor jones
01-16-2011, 11:56 AM
Ron Paul's other son Dr. Robert Paul speech [the next US Senator from Texas] (VIDEO)
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/134335

This HAS to happen. Robert doesn't sound quite as intellectual as Rand but he's 1000% more personable and could win every heart in Texas. Holy crap!

Imperial
01-16-2011, 02:25 PM
since texas is adding four new congressional districts, this is the perfect chance to get some liberty candidates in there. who knows, maybe medina will be in a freshly drawn district.

Word on the street is that only one will be a safe Republican district- most of the fast growth has been in Democratic areas of the state.

However, Dr. Paul's district is sure to change a little bit. To his south is Blake Farenthold's district, which is technically a VRA district. Republicans redistricting are likely to tear this district apart as it is currently known and make a safe district for Farenthold. This may involve taking some from Dr. Paul's seat, one of the safest Republican seats in the country.

Also watch for Bill Flores and Quico Canseco's district's being shored up and made safe Republican. I don't think you will see legislators try to eliminate Doggett's seat- if they did, they would be pretty stupid as much of the area is trending Democratic.

TCE
01-17-2011, 01:09 PM
They're not our best chances.

Medina is known and has name recognition, your thesis is based on "if only we can find a good candidate" in those primaries/states.

That's easier said than done and there is no one we know of or have knowledge of, a lot of the professionals who will be running will be neocons or already bought off.

If Medina runs she is known to us/unabashed Ron Pauler and will have a subforum and support, along with the name ID after taking nearly a quarter of the vote in the governor race.

Fuck DeMint.

There will be polls on Texas sooner or later and Medina will be included unless she announces she wont run because the polling firms know that it's possible she will run and that she would be a credible challenger.

I should have bolded Indiana as well, but yes, I believe those to be our best chances. If not, which states do you believe are? Of course it is only if a good candidate runs, the liberty movement is chock full of bad candidates who will garner 3 or 4%.

doodle
01-17-2011, 01:14 PM
"Medina is also a very good candidate, unfortunately too many on the Right used to tune into to paid hack Beck and it would be bit more challaneging for her relatively considering how Beck had poisoned the well. She seems to be pretty fluent in State rights and issues from what I have heard of her speeches. "




From Debra's facebook page.

"Best wishes to Senator Hutchison as she announces retirement at end of current term...and special thanks, Senator, for committing to serve until the end of the current term so as not to require Texas to hold special election"


What do you guys think?

What is Medina's stance on Iraq and US foreign policy, anyone knows?

I don't think KBH should be thanked though for serving longer, she is not part of the solution.


Senate Floor Speech
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison
February 27, 2008

SENATOR HUTCHISON DISCUSSES THE WAR IN IRAQ

MRS. HUTCHISON. Mr. President, I rise today to strongly oppose any Senate amendment that would require the immediate and arbitrary withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq. This amendment is the latest attempt in a year-long effort to constrain the ability of our generals and our brave men and women in uniform to fight this war effectively.

During the past year, the Senate has voted over 40 times on bills to limit the generals' war strategy. Not one has become law or even come close. Since this assembly line of votes started in February 2007, the situation in Iraq has changed considerably and it has changed for the better.

While some Senators were insisting that the war was lost, General Petraeus was in the process of implementing a strategic readjustment that has produced remarkable progress on the battlefield. It has been said on this floor: We need to change the direction. We are changing the direction. We are changing the strategy. We are going in the right direction.

I got back from Iraq 2 days ago. I saw for myself the enormous military gains we have achieved in that country. While in Baghdad, I put on a suit of body armor. I traveled in an MRAP vehicle with our troops through the streets of Baghdad. I was able to go to a police station where we have embedded troops there.

http://hutchison.senate.gov/speech022708.html.