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doodle
01-11-2011, 05:05 PM
Does she really?




'I hate violence' she e-mails to Glenn Beck

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/01/10/2011-01-10_sarah_palin_speaks_out_on_gabrielle_giffords_sh ooting_i_hate_violence_she_emails.html#ixzz1AlpvNx 00


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wYRgSUm0VcE/SOP1Jd5kt4I/AAAAAAAAAMo/9trBtshX1DA/s320/734px-Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_14.jpg


* September 2, 2008, 10:00 PM EDT


Palin said war in Iraq, gas pipeline are God’s will


http://blogs.marketwatch.com/election/2008/09/02/palin-said-war-in-iraq-gas-pipeline-are-gods-will/



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oyarde
01-11-2011, 05:11 PM
Does she really?




Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/01/10/2011-01-10_sarah_palin_speaks_out_on_gabrielle_giffords_sh ooting_i_hate_violence_she_emails.html#ixzz1AlpvNx 00


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wYRgSUm0VcE/SOP1Jd5kt4I/AAAAAAAAAMo/9trBtshX1DA/s320/734px-Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_14.jpg



http://blogs.marketwatch.com/election/2008/09/02/palin-said-war-in-iraq-gas-pipeline-are-gods-will/



http://scotthughes.biz/images/amifreeyet.jpg

The Alaskan pipeline ??

doodle
01-11-2011, 05:13 PM
Alaska oil pipeline, Iraq oil pipeline are all part of God's err god's plan.


She hates war too:


Sarah Palin broke her silence three days after a campaign ad drew ire – and threats – in the wake of the Arizona shootings.

In an email to conservative talk show host Glenn Beck, she reportedly said "I hate violence. I hate war. Our children will not have peace if politicos just capitalize on this to succeed in portraying anyone as inciting terror and violence."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/01/10/2011-01-10_sarah_palin_speaks_out_on_gabrielle_giffords_sh ooting_i_hate_violence_she_emails.html#ixzz1Ann1Pu rv

oyarde
01-11-2011, 05:40 PM
Alaska oil pipeline, Iraq oil pipeline are all part of God's err god's plan.

I am OK with us piping oil in Alaska , we should be drilling more . If it was God's plan , I think he would be smarter than to not use his own resources and spend that money into another economy and create jobs there by purchasing it from them with an inflated currency .

QueenB4Liberty
01-11-2011, 05:44 PM
Of course she just meant violence against US politicians.

coastie
01-11-2011, 09:51 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wYRgSUm0VcE/SOP1Jd5kt4I/AAAAAAAAAMo/9trBtshX1DA/s320/734px-Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_14.jpg

WTF is her finger doing inside the trigger guard? Jeez Louise:mad::rolleyes:

oyarde
01-11-2011, 09:54 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wYRgSUm0VcE/SOP1Jd5kt4I/AAAAAAAAAMo/9trBtshX1DA/s320/734px-Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_14.jpg

WTF is her finger doing inside the trigger guard? Jeez Louise:mad::rolleyes:

I could not tell for sure .

coastie
01-11-2011, 10:02 PM
I could not tell for sure .

Well it shouldn't be there, damn it. What a stupid dumb dumb head that one is.

Brooklyn Red Leg
01-11-2011, 10:02 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wYRgSUm0VcE/SOP1Jd5kt4I/AAAAAAAAAMo/9trBtshX1DA/s320/734px-Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_14.jpg

WTF is her finger doing inside the trigger guard? Jeez Louise:mad::rolleyes:

Oh come on, we all knew Caribou Barbie was dumber than a fucking bag of hammers. You expected her to handle a firearm safely? :p

coastie
01-11-2011, 10:07 PM
Oh come on, we all knew Caribou Barbie was dumber than a fucking bag of hammers. You expected her to handle a firearm safely? :p

TBH, since she supposedly hunts so much and is such a supporter of the 2nd Amendment........ yeah. Not to mention, i would never have handed her that rifle without making sure that she knew to keep her finger out of there. The pic they would have got of me would have been the instant I snatched it back out of her hands.

To keep this on topic though(somewhat), I didn't click the link, is that the picture that accompanies the article that she says "I hate violence"?

It's pretty sad to note that there are a LOT of people out there that will get exactly that message out of that picture.:mad:

And yeah-what a fucking hypocrite.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

ClayTrainor
01-11-2011, 10:14 PM
Didn't she say something like, we need to hunt Julian Assange like he's the taliban? If she did, well.... That's just calling for a mafia-style hit, but no, she hates violence... lol

charrob
01-11-2011, 11:07 PM
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp50/688i/liberals021.jpg

What an absolute pathetic excuse for a human being she is.

LisaNY
01-11-2011, 11:34 PM
Big tough "mama grizzly" is now acting like a frightened little girl, hiding behind her computer and spewing contradictions through that idiot beck. That's some real leadership material alright. If Palin really had any guts (or brains) she would have defended herself, or at least have issued some statement telling people not to jump to conclusions. I'm no fan of Hillary, but you know she wouldn't take this shit lying down - if the media and politicians on the right tried to connect her to a mass murder spree she would have come out swinging and held 100 press conferences by now. As a Republican woman I wish we had our own version of Hillary, someone who is smart enough and tough enough to deal with the media and political hacks.

idirtify
01-12-2011, 12:18 AM
Hey, I dislike Palin as much as the next guy, but I think all who are playing the multiple blame game for this shooting will end up feeling silly – for two reasons. First, no one is to blame but the shooter. He pulled the trigger. No one told him to do it or paid him. Secondly, it looks like he has acute schizophrenia.

I mean blaming others for limited culpability is not really any different than blaming the gun/ammo/clip.

doodle
01-12-2011, 12:45 AM
WTF is her finger doing inside the trigger guard? Jeez Louise:mad::rolleyes:

In sign language, that is gesture for "I hate violence".

charrob
01-12-2011, 10:48 AM
-here's the Palin news from Swedish tv showing her picture, the crosshairs on her map, and the congressmen's name on a list she has targetted:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/nyheter/utrikes/article8385624.ab

Pericles
01-12-2011, 10:58 AM
I hate violence too, but when violence happens, I have trained to be better at it than anyone else.

PS, this finger off the trigger stuff didn't start until the mid 1990s because of all of the Glocks out there. I still have to catch myself because I'm used to 1911A1s and M16s, where I was used to having the safety on until time for ready. So, I feel for the selector (safety) with my thumb and then finger on trigger automatically. Look at pre 1990 Army training videos and such as an example for how it was done.

coastie
01-12-2011, 11:22 AM
I hate violence too, but when violence happens, I have trained to be better at it than anyone else.

PS, this finger off the trigger stuff didn't start until the mid 1990s because of all of the Glocks out there. I still have to catch myself because I'm used to 1911A1s and M16s, where I was used to having the safety on until time for ready. So, I feel for the selector (safety) with my thumb and then finger on trigger automatically. Look at pre 1990 Army training videos and such as an example for how it was done.

Maybe the Army didn't start doing that in the mid-1990's, as I've been taught that by my father since I first started shooting at 3yrs old in 1980 that you always lay your finger along the trigger guard. I know of others like yourself who do exactly as you're saying, and that's fine if you're comfortable with it.

I however, am not and I've personally witnessed two, count'em two discharges from people leaving their finger inside the guard-one of which nearly hit a 5 yr old child in the face/head.

Regardless if she knows to have her thumb on the selector switch-would you feel comfortable standing where the photographer was with her finger where it is?:eek:

klamath
01-12-2011, 11:28 AM
Palin a hypocrites and many on these forums are hypocrites. Seems most people have their own prefered violence. Violence is alright if you can justify it in your mind.

Pericles
01-12-2011, 11:55 AM
Maybe the Army didn't start doing that in the mid-1990's, as I've been taught that by my father since I first started shooting at 3yrs old in 1980 that you always lay your finger along the trigger guard. I know of others like yourself who do exactly as you're saying, and that's fine if you're comfortable with it.

I however, am not and I've personally witnessed two, count'em two discharges from people leaving their finger inside the guard-one of which nearly hit a 5 yr old child in the face/head.

Regardless if she knows to have her thumb on the selector switch-would you feel comfortable standing where the photographer was with her finger where it is?:eek:


Agree on the fundamentals of firearms safety - treat as always loaded, where pointed, etc. My point was that the finger only on the trigger when about to shoot is a recent rule. And it is a rule, that may place you at a disadvantage when you need to use that firearm in a fight. People revert to their training during periods of high stress. Police used to be trained at the range (back in the days of issued revolvers) to immediately pick up dropped brass and line up the spent brass to account for all rounds fired, and then reload. After a couple of cases of dead cops on the roadside, with 6 spent rounds in a line, they changed the training to account for rounds fired after the incident is over.

The training was very safe, but it got people killed when that training was supposed to keep them alive. Keeping the finger out of the trigger guard until ready to fire puts you a fraction of a second slower than the guy who didn't. One of the big reasons I don't like Glocks and the "no safety" design - it is too easy to have an accidental discharge. There is a relationship between weapon, training, and ammunition choice - change one part of the system and the other components are impacted.

oyarde
01-12-2011, 03:21 PM
-here's the Palin news from Swedish tv showing her picture, the crosshairs on her map, and the congressmen's name on a list she has targetted:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/nyheter/utrikes/article8385624.ab

That is a remake of the democrat party map from 06 if I recall. Dem idea .

oyarde
01-12-2011, 03:30 PM
I would never have my finger in the guard in a setting like that ( indoors / crowd etc ), but she is likely posing / photo op with a known empty weapon. In a military / hunting situation , I would have my finger in the guard if nobody is directly in front of me .

doodle
01-12-2011, 11:26 PM
-here's the Palin news from Swedish tv showing her picture, the crosshairs on her map, and the congressmen's name on a list she has targetted:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/nyheter/utrikes/article8385624.ab

Wow, good video. Palin looks whacky in the pic they showed.
I like European accents.

BamaAla
01-12-2011, 11:33 PM
I'm not convinced that her finger is in the trigger guard; looks like she is in register to me. I watched her show and she seemed to know her way around a long gun well enough.

coastie
01-13-2011, 12:21 AM
Agree on the fundamentals of firearms safety - treat as always loaded, where pointed, etc. My point was that the finger only on the trigger when about to shoot is a recent rule. And it is a rule, that may place you at a disadvantage when you need to use that firearm in a fight. People revert to their training during periods of high stress. Police used to be trained at the range (back in the days of issued revolvers) to immediately pick up dropped brass and line up the spent brass to account for all rounds fired, and then reload. After a couple of cases of dead cops on the roadside, with 6 spent rounds in a line, they changed the training to account for rounds fired after the incident is over.

The training was very safe, but it got people killed when that training was supposed to keep them alive. Keeping the finger out of the trigger guard until ready to fire puts you a fraction of a second slower than the guy who didn't. One of the big reasons I don't like Glocks and the "no safety" design - it is too easy to have an accidental discharge. There is a relationship between weapon, training, and ammunition choice - change one part of the system and the other components are impacted.

I know, I was in LE for 6 of the 8 years I was in the USCG...and really thankful now that we weren't taught to line rounds up:eek::p But, she's not in a defense/combat/hunting situation in that picture.

We're starting to thread jack the shit out of this thread, lol. Back on topic damn it:p

doodle
01-13-2011, 12:05 PM
Palin a hypocrites and many on these forums are hypocrites. Seems most people have their own prefered violence. Violence is alright if you can justify it in your mind.

Right about Palin. I don't know about the forum but certainly many in society are hypocrites. Biggest supporter of Iraq war violence has been so called "Christian" demographic after the Godless neocons.

charrob
01-13-2011, 03:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7046bo92a4


http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs050.snc6/168048_193046954042263_100000108791083_772573_6489 852_n.jpg


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It’s unclear what motivated the young man in this tragic affair. But what is clear was the recent news report/video of Congressman Gifford when her office was smashed up stating that she was the target of violence from the tea-party (her dad, on the way to the hospital, stated she constantly received death threats from tea-party members). Sarah Palin was the tea party leader instigating a lot of the violent rhetoric- Congressman Gifford clearly stated in this recent interview that Palin’s map had the cross-hairs of a gun on her district. She said hundreds in the tea party constantly stood outside her office, daily, for months using “heated” rhetoric; she said: “the calls, the emails, the slurs- the yelling- the violence- things have really gotten out of hand”. When asked if she thought the republican leadership should have spoken out to denounce this violence she stated the following: “all leaders need to come out and say “we can’t stand for this”. This is a situation, they really need to realize the rhetoric and the firing of people up such as Sarah Palin and the fact that we’re on her targeted list- the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gun site over our district—when people do that, they’ve got to realize there’s consequences to that action.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7046bo92a4

If there’s any hesitation of whether violent hate-filled rhetoric, especially from supposed "leaders" such as Palin, can affect people, this should resolve that hesitation:

“I’d like to encourage other like-minded people to do what I’ve done,” he wrote. “If life ain’t worth living anymore, don’t just kill yourself. Do something for your country before you go. Go kill liberals.

“This was a hate crime, Liberals are a pest like termites, millions of them … the only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is kill them in the streets, kill them where they gather.” ~Jim David Adkisson

-The above was stated following Adkisson’s deadly shooting rampage at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in 2009, the Kingston Pike home of what the 58-year-old Powell man deemed “ultra liberals” and “foot soldiers” for the powers-that-be in the liberal movement. http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/feb/10/church-shooter-pleads-guilty-letter-released/

doodle
01-13-2011, 10:35 PM
What are chances now that she will be running for 2012?

low preference guy
01-13-2011, 10:36 PM
What are chances now that she will be running for 2012?

the same as they were one week ago and one month ago: zero

doodle
01-13-2011, 10:37 PM
the same as they were one week ago and one month ago: zero


Good answer :)

Mr.Fish
01-13-2011, 11:10 PM
I'm not convinced that her finger is in the trigger guard; looks like she is in register to me. I watched her show and she seemed to know her way around a long gun well enough.

She still couldn't hit that goddamned moose though :D

More on topic, When you have a poster with what LOOKS like crosshairs, say things like "don't retreat, instead reload" and associate with people like: RUSH LIMBAUGH: STRAIGHT SHOOTER, it can get a little hard to believe your position on violence.

Then again, it's hard to take her seriously. She has a TV show that plays out like a sitcom.

I say we vote JOEY TRIBBIANI FOR CANDIDACY!

doodle
01-14-2011, 09:19 AM
It’s unclear what motivated the young man in this tragic affair. But what is clear was the recent news report/video of Congressman Gifford when her office was smashed up stating that she was the target of violence from the tea-party (her dad, on the way to the hospital, stated she constantly received death threats from tea-party members). Sarah Palin was the tea party leader instigating a lot of the violent rhetoric- Congressman Gifford clearly stated in this recent interview that Palin’s map had the cross-hairs of a gun on her district. She said hundreds in the tea party constantly stood outside her office, daily, for months using “heated” rhetoric; she said: “the calls, the emails, the slurs- the yelling- the violence- things have really gotten out of hand”. When asked if she thought the republican leadership should have spoken out to denounce this violence she stated the following: “all leaders need to come out and say “we can’t stand for this”. This is a situation, they really need to realize the rhetoric and the firing of people up such as Sarah Palin and the fact that we’re on her targeted list- the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gun site over our district—when people do that, they’ve got to realize there’s consequences to that action.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7046bo92a4

If there’s any hesitation of whether violent hate-filled rhetoric, especially from supposed "leaders" such as Palin, can affect people, this should resolve that hesitation:

“I’d like to encourage other like-minded people to do what I’ve done,” he wrote. “If life ain’t worth living anymore, don’t just kill yourself. Do something for your country before you go. Go kill liberals.

“This was a hate crime, Liberals are a pest like termites, millions of them … the only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is kill them in the streets, kill them where they gather.” ~Jim David Adkisson

-The above was stated following Adkisson’s deadly shooting rampage at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in 2009, the Kingston Pike home of what the 58-year-old Powell man deemed “ultra liberals” and “foot soldiers” for the powers-that-be in the liberal movement. http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/feb/10/church-shooter-pleads-guilty-letter-released/

To be fair, Palin vocally supported violence against Iraqis,Palestinians type people because of her religious extremism but not directly against domestic liberals?