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Zatch
01-05-2011, 11:53 AM
Murdered Bush Aide Was An Expert In Chem. & Bio. Warfare & Had Highest Security Clearances:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2QW7MipqwE




Video Surveillance Shows Murdered Presidential Aide Disheveled, Holding Broken Shoe:

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/01/04/video-released-in-murder-mystery-of-del-war-vet/

Zatch
01-05-2011, 12:07 PM
bump

vita3
01-05-2011, 12:36 PM
His real expertise is computer technology & the Air Force. thats why he was currently working for MITRE

The real criminals behind 911 could be exposed if we had anybody looking MITRE, PTECH & other that had control of the software used by the Air Force/FAA & NORAD

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/news/watch/v18433504Aw4mY275

The video is long, but gets at another piece of the puzzle

silverhandorder
01-05-2011, 12:38 PM
Every type of conspiracy rears it's head. It does look suspicious though. Doubt we will know the real story though.

vita3
01-05-2011, 12:46 PM
This video might be better.

Indira Singh is the 911 whistle-blower here & Mike Ruppert is also shown

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8228336760154277932#

Brian4Liberty
01-05-2011, 01:07 PM
Every type of conspiracy rears it's head. It does look suspicious though. Doubt we will know the real story though.

Wouldn't it be nice to know the truth on this? Too bad that will never happen.

It does have whistle-blower/hit written all over it. Who knows?

silverhandorder
01-05-2011, 01:11 PM
It actually does. Im just commenting on how two separate conspiracy theories are presented right away.

Bruno
01-05-2011, 01:11 PM
Wouldn't it be nice to know the truth on this? Too bad that will never happen.

It does have whistle-blower/hit written all over it. Who knows?

If so, it sure sends a message to anyone else who might be tempted to spill the beans on what they know.

Anti Federalist
01-05-2011, 01:12 PM
Of course it was a hit.

Street criminals or muggers don't bother to throw the body in a dumpster.

jmdrake
01-05-2011, 01:12 PM
Wouldn't it be nice to know the truth on this? Too bad that will never happen

It does have whistle-blower/hit written all over it. Who knows?

Let's hope for a pertinent Wikileak. (I wouldn't hold my breath though. No way they'd leave incriminating information on something like this lying around where some private can get it.)

Brian4Liberty
01-05-2011, 01:15 PM
It actually does. Im just commenting on how two separate conspiracy theories are presented right away.

Expert in chem and bio warfare leads to wonder about the Anthrax attacks...

Anti Federalist
01-05-2011, 01:18 PM
Somebody please post the lengthy list of biotech engineers that were employed by government that have shown up dead over the years in situations just like this. (jmdrake or danno, I'm looking at you guys, I'm tied up right now and can't do the search justice)

This hints around at the blackest "conspiracy" out there, one that could potentially end human life on earth.

The deliberate or accidental release of a biological agent that never should have been conceived, let alone created, in some LEV4 government bioweapon lab somewhere.

That's why time is running out...

oyarde
01-05-2011, 01:21 PM
Of course it was a hit.

Street criminals or muggers don't bother to throw the body in a dumpster.

Interesting .

jmdrake
01-05-2011, 01:34 PM
Somebody please post the lengthy list of biotech engineers that were employed by government that have shown up dead over the years in situations just like this. (jmdrake or danno, I'm looking at you guys, I'm tied up right now and can't do the search justice)

This hints around at the blackest "conspiracy" out there, one that could potentially end human life on earth.

The deliberate or accidental release of a biological agent that never should have been conceived, let alone created, in some LEV4 government bioweapon lab somewhere.

That's why time is running out...

I did find the sudden death of the world health organization president right when the "bird flu" pandemic (hoax) was heating up to be notable.

http://health.dailynewscentral.com/content/view/0002261/31/

Here are some Harvard lab workers poisoned in 2009.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33470976/ns/us_news-life/

And of course there's the infowars.com list of dead scientists (http://www.infowars.com/list-of-dead-scientists/).

Sola_Fide
01-05-2011, 01:37 PM
Does his death have anything to do with all the dead fish and birds?

Maybe he was going to speak out on the biologocal testing that killed all the animals?

oyarde
01-05-2011, 01:39 PM
Does his death have anything to do with all the dead fish and birds?

Maybe he was going to speak out on the biologocal testing that killed all the animals?

Dunno , doubt it .

Bruno
01-05-2011, 01:40 PM
Dunno , doubt it .

Question everything. It's healthy. :)

oyarde
01-05-2011, 01:46 PM
Question everything. It's healthy. :)

Yeah , but bird / fish die offs are fairly common and have been happening since before chemicals .

Zippyjuan
01-05-2011, 01:47 PM
On report says he was in a feud with one of his neighbors and actually placed incendiary devices in the neighbor's house.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47084.html


Incendiary devices were found at the home of the neighbor with whom Wheeler had been entangled in a property dispute at the time of his death and a law enforcement source said investigators believe Wheeler may have set them, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported.

Wheeler, an Army veteran who played a key role in the creation of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington, also went to a New Castle pharmacy last Wednesday and had an unusual request, according to a report.

“He said, ‘Can you give me a ride to Wilmington?’ and that was a flag,” a pharmacist told the News Journal. “He looked like he was a little upset.”

Less than an hour after leaving the drug store, Wheeler was at the New Castle County Courthouse parking garage in Wilmington, searching for his car “erratically,” employees at the garage said.

One worker said that Wheeler was carrying his right shoe in his left hand and claimed someone had stolen his briefcase. His car was later found a few blocks away at another parking garage where authorities say Wheeler was a monthly customer.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47084.html#ixzz1ABwv9yEn

oyarde
01-05-2011, 01:49 PM
On report says he was in a feud with one of his neighbors and actually placed incendiary devices in the neighbor's house.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47084.html

Lost his mind ??

Bruno
01-05-2011, 01:50 PM
Yeah , but bird / fish die offs are fairly common and have been happening since before chemicals .

I'm aware of that.

Sola_Fide
01-05-2011, 01:52 PM
That is bizarre^^^

Brian4Liberty
01-05-2011, 01:55 PM
On report says he was in a feud with one of his neighbors and actually placed incendiary devices in the neighbor's house.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47084.html

Wow. That story has dis-info and diversion written all over it.

He was acting erratically? So what are they getting at? He murdered himself? It's not making sense. Be careful when the authorities start trying to discredit the victim...

jmdrake
01-05-2011, 02:02 PM
Wow. That story has dis-info and diversion written all over it.

He was acting erratically? So what are they getting at? He murdered himself? It's not making sense. Be careful when the authorities start trying to discredit the victim...

Yeah...that's what I was thinking. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some patsy found that the murder is blamed on an who later "kills himself."

Zippyjuan
01-05-2011, 02:04 PM
Story came from the local Delaware paper- original source: http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110105/NEWS01/101050356/Wheeler-s-disheveled-final-days

It has more details there.

Bruno
01-05-2011, 02:06 PM
So, they are trying to implicate the neighbor?

And he supposedly didn't know which parking garage he was parked in?

Maybe someone slipped him some of the same drugs he was and expert in.


Curiously absent is the cause of death that allowed them to quickly rule it a murder. Usually you will hear "found with two gunshots to the head, one to the chest", "signs of strangulation", or something to that effect.

oyarde
01-05-2011, 02:20 PM
So, they are trying to implicate the neighbor?

And he supposedly didn't know which parking garage he was parked in?

Maybe someone slipped him some of the same drugs he was and expert in.


Curiously absent is the cause of death that allowed them to quickly rule it a murder. Usually you will hear "found with two gunshots to the head, one to the chest", "signs of strangulation", or something to that effect.

Yeah , the locals announced homicide quickly .

JoshLowry
01-05-2011, 02:22 PM
So, they are trying to implicate the neighbor?

And he supposedly didn't know which parking garage he was parked in?

Maybe someone slipped him some of the same drugs he was and expert in.

Curiously absent is the cause of death that allowed them to quickly rule it a murder. Usually you will hear "found with two gunshots to the head, one to the chest", "signs of strangulation", or something to that effect.

Yea, I wonder how he died too.

Zippyjuan
01-05-2011, 02:29 PM
The article says there were video cams of the sites he was reported at and they are examining the tapes.

Nobody knows yet what actually occured, but theoretically possible to climb into a dumpster and shoot yourself. Gun could be lost at the dump. Not enough info for any real ideas of what happened so far.

Bruno
01-05-2011, 02:36 PM
The article says there were video cams of the sites he was reported at and they are examining the tapes.

Nobody knows yet what actually occured, but theoretically possible to climb into a dumpster and shoot yourself. Gun could be lost at the dump. Not enough info for any real ideas of what happened so far.

Certainly plausible, though if they had reason to believe it might have been suicide, the authorities would have likely withheld judgment.

Anti Federalist
01-05-2011, 02:38 PM
Wow. That story has dis-info and diversion written all over it.

He was acting erratically? So what are they getting at? He murdered himself? It's not making sense. Be careful when the authorities start trying to discredit the victim...

Boy, that ^^^

I'm recalling the scene in the movie "Shooter" where the discredited FBI agent was being trussed into an agency made contraption that would literally force his arm up into a shooting position to kill himself with his own weapon.

This whole thing is really starting to stink.

oyarde
01-05-2011, 02:40 PM
Yea, I wonder how he died too.

Something like , say , a shotgun blast , not at very close range , would be easy to determine if it was a homicide .

Brian4Liberty
01-05-2011, 03:41 PM
Story came from the local Delaware paper- original source: http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110105/NEWS01/101050356/Wheeler-s-disheveled-final-days

It has more details there.

Seems that they have quite a few eyewitnesses and camera views of him walking around the area confused (at least the video recorders didn't malfunction ;)). Drugs? Stroke? Other organ failure? The autopsy is important. Crawling into a dumpster at night and dying is starting to sound like a possibility.

Bruno
01-05-2011, 03:59 PM
Seems that they have quite a few eyewitnesses and camera views of him walking around the area confused (at least the video recorders didn't malfunction ;)). Drugs? Stroke? Other organ failure? The autopsy is important. Crawling into a dumpster at night and dying is starting to sound like a possibility.

Then it wouldn't have been called murder so quickly. It would be: "His death is currently under investigation. A cause of death has not yet been determined."

oyarde
01-05-2011, 05:25 PM
Certainly plausible, though if they had reason to believe it might have been suicide, the authorities would have likely withheld judgment.

That is what I thought .

vita3
01-05-2011, 06:04 PM
West Point Graduate, done in by his Nations own shadows.

Sad

Dark_Horse_Rider
01-05-2011, 08:20 PM
Expert in chem and bio warfare leads to wonder about the Anthrax attacks...


The anthrax guy was found suicided, was he not ?

Dark_Horse_Rider
01-05-2011, 08:34 PM
Somebody please post the lengthy list of biotech engineers that were employed by government that have shown up dead over the years in situations just like this. (jmdrake or danno, I'm looking at you guys, I'm tied up right now and can't do the search justice)

This hints around at the blackest "conspiracy" out there, one that could potentially end human life on earth.

The deliberate or accidental release of a biological agent that never should have been conceived, let alone created, in some LEV4 government bioweapon lab somewhere.

That's why time is running out...

Yes something is on the way.

Brian4Liberty
01-05-2011, 08:56 PM
Then it wouldn't have been called murder so quickly. It would be: "His death is currently under investigation. A cause of death has not yet been determined."

Well, that would mean that they were competent, and never jumped to conclusions...maybe he was killed by nearby fireworks? ;)

Bruno
01-05-2011, 09:53 PM
Well, that would mean that they were competent, and never jumped to conclusions...maybe he was killed by nearby fireworks? ;)

lol, yeah, I guess that could have been the cause of death, too. :)

Brian4Liberty
01-05-2011, 10:24 PM
The anthrax guy was found suicided, was he not ?

Yes, he was.


Media reports focused on other possible suspects for years, but FBI files show that the investigation began to focus on Bruce Edwards Ivins as early as April 4, 2005, around the time when Dr. Ivins told the FBI he would not talk any further without his lawyer present. On April 11, 2007, Dr. Ivins was put under periodic surveillance because "Bruce Edwards Ivins is an extremely sensitive suspect in the 2001 anthrax attacks". Ivins was a scientist who worked at the government's biodefense labs at Fort Detrick in Frederick, Maryland. In June 2008, Ivins was told of the impending prosecution, and on July 27, 2008 he allegedly committed suicide by an overdose of acetaminophen.

On August 6, 2008, federal prosecutors declared Ivins to be the sole culprit of the crime. Two days later, Sen. Charles Grassley and Rep. Rush Holt called for hearings into the DOJ and FBI's handling of the investigation. On February 19, 2010, the FBI formally closed its investigation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

Bruno
01-05-2011, 10:57 PM
^^^ Now, why would a scientist like him go and commit suicide on acetaminophen? :rolleyes:

amy31416
01-05-2011, 11:25 PM
^^^ Now, why would a scientist like him go and commit suicide on acetaminophen? :rolleyes:

That's a really stupid way for anyone to try to kill themselves, especially a scientist who'd know hundreds of better ways.

Aratus
01-06-2011, 02:38 PM
yesterday's INSIDE EDITION aired video footage from a parking garage but not the one his car was at,
where he was wandering about and had a shoe of his in his hand, all implying a stroke or a concussion.

Aratus
01-06-2011, 02:40 PM
Seems that they have quite a few eyewitnesses and camera views of him walking around the area confused (at least the video recorders didn't malfunction ;)). Drugs? Stroke? Other organ failure? The autopsy is important. Crawling into a dumpster at night and dying is starting to sound like a possibility.

INSIDE EDITION got some footage from a parking garage and broadcast it...

oyarde
01-06-2011, 03:22 PM
yesterday's INSIDE EDITION aired video footage from a parking garage but not the one his car was at,
where he was wandering about and had a shoe of his in his hand, all implying a stroke or a concussion.

Yeah , one of the witnesses from 12/29 said he looked like he had had those clothes on for days and been sleeping in them. Said the cuffs were filthy .

vita3
01-06-2011, 06:38 PM
What chemical did they shoot him w/?

TNforPaul45
01-06-2011, 06:50 PM
Yeah , one of the witnesses from 12/29 said he looked like he had had those clothes on for days and been sleeping in them. Said the cuffs were filthy .

That means that he was on the run.

oyarde
01-06-2011, 06:53 PM
That means that he was on the run.

Looks that way and disoriented , He was probably sleeping in a building or parking garage in his car , but forgot which garage his car was in .Does not make alot of sense.