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Zatch
01-03-2011, 03:01 PM
rph edit - video has been removed from this channel with the comment "111newuser (1 day ago) Spam
The American Dream cartoon has been removed by request of the authors :(
Coming soon to their own YouTube channel."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU

hazek
01-03-2011, 03:09 PM
Finally!

ravedown
01-03-2011, 03:45 PM
great video, great animation-the burr/hamilton bit is pretty funny. unfortunately some will dismiss this because it turns too abruptly into conspiracy hokum with the kennedy assassination. other than that its solid. congrats to the producers.

hazek
01-03-2011, 03:50 PM
Yeah I'm slightly disappointed because I had hopped it would stick to facts and lay them out more clearly.

Romulus
01-03-2011, 04:30 PM
Still, its a net positive...

MRoCkEd
01-03-2011, 05:50 PM
Submit it to drudge!

New Cartoon Movie Attacks the Fed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv2oCXbW4r0

Thomas
01-03-2011, 05:52 PM
this needs to go viral! share it on facebook!

Sentient Void
01-03-2011, 06:21 PM
Fucking EPIC.

SHARING.

QueenB4Liberty
01-03-2011, 06:43 PM
I loved that! I shared it on facebook.

Teaser Rate
01-04-2011, 06:57 AM
Wow, it's almost like someone took it upon themselves to bring together all the conspiracy theories, logical fallacies and paranoid delusions about money and banking and compile it into the cutest propaganda movie possible.

If the Fed hired me to make a movie to ridicule their opponents' beliefs, I couldn't do any better than this.

Romulus
01-04-2011, 09:48 AM
Wow, it's almost like someone took it upon themselves to bring together all the conspiracy theories, logical fallacies and paranoid delusions about money and banking and compile it into the cutest propaganda movie possible.

If the Fed hired me to make a movie to ridicule their opponents' beliefs, I couldn't do any better than this.

I sort of agree... I think this sort of 'south park' cartoon serves more to marginalize than to convey the truth..

cooker263
01-04-2011, 09:51 AM
Wow, it's almost like someone took it upon themselves to bring together all the conspiracy theories, logical fallacies and paranoid delusions about money and banking and compile it into the cutest propaganda movie possible.

If the Fed hired me to make a movie to ridicule their opponents' beliefs, I couldn't do any better than this.

If they kept out JFK and Jekyll Island it would have been perfect. Not that there isn't some truth there, but the way it was presented. The financing of both sides of the wars was really good, though.

Overall a net positive as long as people don't dismiss it based on some of the conspiracy thrown in there. Really entertaining too!

txaslftist
01-04-2011, 09:55 AM
awesome.

Original_Intent
01-04-2011, 05:01 PM
Came across the video from another forum. Epic!

jmdrake
01-05-2011, 09:09 AM
Epic movie! Thanks for posting it!

cavalier973
01-05-2011, 12:49 PM
The cartoon makes some good points, but it seems to indicate that the answer to the problem of fractional reserve banking is more government (or more violence--wait, same thing; never mind). It is the government that keeps the banks from suffering the consequences of their bad business practices. Otherwise, "bank runs" would keep the banks in line fairly well. Another BIG problem is that the governments around the world each institute legal tender laws upon the areas they govern. With a free market in money, the sort of problems that occur with fractional reserve banking would be greatly diminished, if not eliminated. Having the Gubmint control the money supply would only lead to the same problems as today. The Federal Reserve may be a "private" institution (despite being created by the government, having its officers appointed by the government, and enjoying a government mandated monopoly on the money supply), but it does the bidding of the government; NOT sinister foreign bankers.

KevinR
01-05-2011, 04:12 PM
Awesome!!!

Original_Intent
01-06-2011, 04:56 PM
Also, check out their list of "good guys" - both Ron Paul and C4L made the short list, as well as some other good ones, like Stossel.

http://www.theamericandreamfilm.com/the-good-guys.php

Other good stuff at their site as well such as encouraging everyone to study the constitution and DoI, to carefully put money into causes that support liberty. Hope this goes viral to infinity!

Chester Copperpot
01-06-2011, 07:07 PM
this was pretty good.. normally i hate all these cartoon things.. but i watched this whole thing and liked it overall

DamianTV
01-06-2011, 07:52 PM
Looks like the audio voice track was removed from the video in the first post. I found one with the audio track still intact (for now). Might want to check the video on the first post and update it with a video that still has the audio track...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeGeJOzS9Po

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vE7RLPQjAw

Epic Video!

Teaser Rate
01-06-2011, 09:54 PM
After having looked around their website for a bit, I can only think of two possible explanations for the existence of this movie.

1-It was made by well-meaning but deeply ignorant libertarians who really should pick up a beginners’ economics textbook and study basic things like what Keynesian economics means (hint: calling Bernanke one in his description isn’t right)

2-This movie is part of a campaign which was deliberately created to paint anti-fed, pro-gold standard advocates as dangerous, paranoid, antisemitic loons with zero knowledge of economics or money.

The first option is probably the more likely one, but the more I look into their work, the more their mistakes seem almost too perfect.


In either case, this movie is not a message of truth which awaken a movement which will end the Fed; it’s a piece of propaganda which will only serve to delegitimize those who make valid arguments against it.

Spreading it will only hurt your cause.

Zatch
01-06-2011, 10:51 PM
After having looked around their website for a bit, I can only think of two possible explanations for the existence of this movie.

1-It was made by well-meaning but deeply ignorant libertarians who really should pick up a beginners’ economics textbook and study basic things like what Keynesian economics means (hint: calling Bernanke one in his description isn’t right)

2-This movie is part of a campaign which was deliberately created to paint anti-fed, pro-gold standard advocates as dangerous, paranoid, antisemitic loons with zero knowledge of economics or money.

The first option is probably the more likely one, but the more I look into their work, the more their mistakes seem almost too perfect.


In either case, this movie is not a message of truth which awaken a movement which will end the Fed; it’s a piece of propaganda which will only serve to delegitimize those who make valid arguments against it.

Spreading it will only hurt your cause.

How is it antisemitic?

Teaser Rate
01-07-2011, 06:45 AM
How is it antisemitic?

I didn’t say the movie was antisemitic, I pointed out that if it was created with the intent of distorting the public’s perception of anti-Fed advocates, antisemitism would have been one of its intended smears.

It doesn’t take much for the claim that a secret Jewish banking family controls the world through evils means to be perceived as an antisemitic declaration. When you add in the glorification of violence against bankers, a profession which Jews are associated with in popular culture, I don’t think it’s that much of a reach for someone to see subtle antisemitic hints.

Even if the film makers had no intention of making such a connection, as soon as the Red Shield and its tentacles were shown were shown on the screen, it gave every Protocol of Zions-believing nut a cryptic wink. If you read the youtube comments about the video, a large portion of them are either lunatics claiming that the Jews run the world, or people responding to those claims by claiming the movie itself is antisemitic.

While this might seem unfair and frustrating, perception is much more important than substance in this kind of media; their presentation, whether intended or not does carries the weight of antisemitism accusations. Of course, they could have avoided that problem by not making the totally unsubstantiated, morally appalling claim that the Fed and other central banks are run for the benefit of a Jewish family or by not glorifying the bloody murder of bankers as much, but that’s another issue.

Edit: I've looked at the youtube comments again, and it seems like the original video had been taken down and this a new link. So I guess you'll have to take my word on that.

YumYum
01-07-2011, 07:23 AM
I didn't see any antisemitism in the cartoon. But I think they are wrong about Kennedy. Kennedy was a Keynesian who began the deficient spending that continues down to today. Griffin pretty much makes a good case about this.

PatriotOne
01-07-2011, 09:28 AM
Wish I had more time to explain but this is propaganda being spread by filth.

Executive producer John Stagliano


John Allen Stagliano (born November 29, 1951 in Chicago, Illinois), also known as Buttman, is an American entrepreneur, pornographic actor, producer and director, who founded and owns the Evil Angel pornographic film studio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stagliano

agitator
01-07-2011, 10:02 AM
Wish I had more time to explain but this is propaganda being spread by filth.

Executive producer John Stagliano


John Allen Stagliano (born November 29, 1951 in Chicago, Illinois), also known as Buttman, is an American entrepreneur, pornographic actor, producer and director, who founded and owns the Evil Angel pornographic film studio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stagliano

"Stagliano espouses a libertarian political philosophy, and has been a significant financial contributor to the Cato Institute and the Reason Foundation, both libertarian think tanks."

PatriotOne
01-07-2011, 10:35 AM
"Stagliano espouses a libertarian political philosophy, and has been a significant financial contributor to the Cato Institute and the Reason Foundation, both libertarian think tanks."

So. What's your point? Are you stuck in the left/right/libertarian paradigm? FYI. All are used to promote the agenda when the ideology fits the agenda. The puppetmasters don't give a crap about parties...they just use them to their advantage. For example... the neocons infiltrating the Tea Parties.

hazek
01-07-2011, 10:47 AM
I wish he had found us or mises.org before attempting to make this cartoon on his own. He got a lot of it right but it could have been oh so much better.

pcosmar
01-07-2011, 11:20 AM
Very well done.
:cool:

:mad:

runningdiz
03-12-2011, 08:12 AM
Just saw this I am surprised it never went viral. Although it is not perfect (intellectually) it would be a great tool to get some people to think. The site links to freedom watch, C4L, YAL, Ron Paul, and mises so that is a good thing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU

Matt Collins
03-13-2011, 02:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxH-fRxx2fU