National Review: Ron Paul a "Crusty Libertarian"

[RonPaulFanInGA]

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/255598/2012-year-libertarian-brian-bolduc


On nearly every issue — they differ on abortion and immigration — Johnson speaks in harmony with the man he endorsed for president in 2008: Rep. Ron Paul. When asked if he’s the reincarnation of the crusty libertarian, however, Johnson says he “disavows that.” “We need to expand the base. We can’t be the obstructionist party. Ron Paul got 9 percent of the Republican vote. That just doesn’t fly,” Johnson warns.

[MRoCkEd]

Gary thinks he can beat 9%?

[wizardwatson]

I prefer a crusty libertarian to a RINO any day of the week.

And so much for RP blessing Johnson's campaign if RP doesn't run himself. From the sound of it Johnson thinks the same as the MSM that ignored RP nearly all the way to his defeat.

[Guitarzan]

From the article: "On foreign policy, Johnson is a noninterventionist."


Johnson is a "noninterventionist" while Paul, according to the same rag, is an "isolationist".


Meaning...Johnson is no threat to the establishment. Ron Paul is.

[Jeremy]

Gary thinks he can beat 9%?

http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4392244/LOL-.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=lol-guy

[Brian4Liberty]

Looks like a divide and conquer piece...

[crazyfacedjenkins]

Ron Paul is a cranky old racist kook.

http://swordattheready.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/ron-paul-joker.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0tXjwFQW6A

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[Zack]

Yikes, the "Crusty libertarian" line actually sounded nicer to me than G Johnson's quote. Have they had some personal drama between them recently that I don't know about, or is Johnson really just that self-destructive? Kind of a WTF moment.

[johnrocks]

If Ron Paul runs;with Gary Johnson in the race; I won't hesitate in voting for Ron Paul however; I think: Gary Johnson is a man I could easily support, he seems to have more of the Rand Paul pragmatic libertarian factor than the more ideologically solid Ron Paul factor if that makes any sense,lol.

[BW2112]

Ron Paul is a cranky old racist kook.

http://swordattheready.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/ron-paul-joker.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0tXjwFQW6A

http://thenewgay.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/24548_384403855853_502480853_3761360_1997692_n.jpg


Is there any reason why this person isn't banned yet?

[Kludge]

Looks like a divide and conquer piece...

Publishing Johnson calling RP an "obstructionist" for being principled will certainly do it.

[JoshLowry]

Is there any reason why this person isn't banned yet?

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[BW2112]

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[BW2112]

I would have considered voting for Johnson if Ron Paul doesn't run, but after seeing this, no way. What does he mean by "obstructionist"? Too anti-war or maybe anti Federal Reserve? I don't know. But for right now, Ron Paul or no one at all.

[Epic]

Gary Johnson should be considered ONLY if RP is not in the race.

If RP is in the race, then don't even THINK about Gary Johnson.

He's no Ron Paul.

[low preference guy]

something tells me Johnson will lose an important part of the 9% of the vote he could've gotten, even if he runs and Ron doesn't.


We need to expand the base. We can’t be the obstructionist party. Ron Paul got 9 percent of the Republican vote. That just doesn’t fly

[Blueskies]

Maybe its just me, but I thought CFJ's post was sarcastic.

[Brett85]

"We can’t be the obstructionist party. Ron Paul got 9 percent of the Republican vote. That just doesn’t fly."

My guess is that Gary Johnson would get about 2% of the vote if he ran.

[Bman]

Johnson says he “disavows that.” “We need to expand the base. We can’t be the obstructionist party. Ron Paul got 9 percent of the Republican vote. That just doesn’t fly,” Johnson warns.

This whole sentence just sounds screwy as all hell. I just cannot imagine it's what he said and how he said it. Seems to me that a lot of context may be missing.

[Legend1104]

Maybe its just me, but I thought CFJ's post was sarcastic.

Yeah me too. Did y'all check to see if he was just being sarcastic?

[Thomas]

this is the national review...nuff said, IGNORE!

[james1906]

Johnson better not pull a Boob Barr.

...also, was CFJ being sarcastic (s)he has been a member since '07, that doesn't fit a profile of a troll.

[agitator]

Johnson better not pull a Boob Barr.

...also, was CFJ being sarcastic (s)he has been a member since '07, that doesn't fit a profile of a troll.

He trolls a lot, especially any thread that mentions Alex Jones.

[Eryxis]

Talked with Gary Johnson one on one... I asked how he felt about Ron, since he was the reason I was standing there talking with him. Gary's response was basically that he has great respect for Ron, but 9% doesn't cut it. He stated that he is in it to win, and as someone else said he is much more pragmatic. His essential strategy is don't say anything stupid, which I respect. I would vote for Ron over Gary for sure, but I have no doubt that Gary is a sincere person who has a solid grasp of what the major problems in this country are. I wouldn't hesitate to vote for Gary Johnson.

[Kregisen]

Ron is a person who isn't afraid to speak his mind. The reason why everyone loves him is because he's not here to have the perfect image, he's here to stand up for freedom.

Both Gary Johnson and Rand are, like others here have said, pragmatic and more like politicians in a way, that hold things back to protect their image.

I would vote for Gary if Ron didn't run, but I wouldn't donate to him unless he told me personally why he believes in a smoking ban for all private businesses.

[specsaregood]

Johnson better not pull a Boob Barr.
...also, was CFJ being sarcastic (s)he has been a member since '07, that doesn't fit a profile of a troll.

yeah, I met him at an RP meetup back in '08. i don't think he means to be a troll, but his actions often fit the profile of one. I won't shed a tear.

[specsaregood]

This whole sentence just sounds screwy as all hell. I just cannot imagine it's what he said and how he said it. Seems to me that a lot of context may be missing.

I'm no fan of this Johnson character, but I wouldn't rush to throw somebody under the bus based on what the national review says.

[Dreamofunity]

I spoke with Johnson not too long ago. Seems reasonable, sincere, a little boring although he has improved greatly on his presentation skills. He said he supported gitmo which kind of threw me off though.

[Napoleon's Shadow]

Well apparently this same guy just wrote an article about monetary policy and completely omitted RP: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?302358-Natl-Review-Inflation-Article-OMITS-Ron-Paul


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[Working Poor]

I love crust

[sailingaway]

I honestly don't see them as that similar. Gary does nothing for me.

[sailingaway]

Talked with Gary Johnson one on one... I asked how he felt about Ron, since he was the reason I was standing there talking with him. Gary's response was basically that he has great respect for Ron, but 9% doesn't cut it. He stated that he is in it to win, and as someone else said he is much more pragmatic. His essential strategy is don't say anything stupid, which I respect. I would vote for Ron over Gary for sure, but I have no doubt that Gary is a sincere person who has a solid grasp of what the major problems in this country are. I wouldn't hesitate to vote for Gary Johnson.


But that is so ludicrous when you are polling less than 2% to say someone polling several multiples of that 'doesn't cut it' with their vote. Cain was polling low before the SC debate, then wasn't. Gary was polling just as low after, if not lower.



From the article: "On foreign policy, Johnson is a noninterventionist."


Johnson is a "noninterventionist" while Paul, according to the same rag, is an "isolationist".


Meaning...Johnson is no threat to the establishment. Ron Paul is.

Gary believes in humanitarian wars and NAFTA. Sovereignty, this country's or any other country's doesn't seem to be part of his analysis.

[sailingaway]

Johnson better not pull a Boob Barr.

...also, was CFJ being sarcastic (s)he has been a member since '07, that doesn't fit a profile of a troll.

Unfortunately, some here in 2007 would have supported Johnson if he'd run then, but he didn't want to take it on at that time. Ron did, and got a hearing and a following which is sticking with him, not moving to Johnson as those people seemed to think it (we) would. It is a problem since we used to be able to not worry about our (or Ron's) back in 'liberty' situations, such as with the RLC but now we do have to watch out. Not everyone volunteering to help may be really trying to help, rather than poison the water.

[Echoes]

I just dont trust Johnson like i do Ron, if Gary went to the White House i could easily see the big stage changing him as it does to every president. Ron is rock solid, im 99% certain he'd govern exactly like he says he would.

[Eryxis]

Just a note, this thread originally started many months ago when nobody had any polling. Obviously, Ron is much more of a "serious" candidate that GJ now. I do think that GJ would be better than any other president we've had in 50 years or so though.