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the count
12-31-2010, 06:23 PM
When a guy like this says move out of the Dollar you better listen.
This interview is a real eye opener, a must see. Bill Gross is a very smart, honest guy, a real gem in the corrupt, topsy turvy financial industry.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/65602098/

devil21
12-31-2010, 06:47 PM
And right on time to counter him:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-dollar-seen-rising-in-2011-apf-3958848384.html?x=0



WASHINGTON (AP) -- Never mind the lackluster economy, the huge trade deficit or the government's piles of debt: The U.S. dollar is still expected to outperform most of the world's major currencies next year.

"By all rights, the dollar should be declining in value, but it's not," says Eswar Prasad, economics professor at Cornell University. "For the dollar to decline in value, you must have currencies on the other side that will" rise.

Bad as things are in the United States, they look worse in Europe and Japan, making the yen, the euro and the British pound riskier bets in 2011. A notable exception is the Chinese yuan, which is likely to rise next year as Beijing fights inflation.

"The dollar remains the ultimate safe haven," Prasad said.

A stronger dollar would make vacations to Europe a better bargain for U.S. tourists and reduce the cost of imports. But it would also make U.S. products more expensive in foreign markets, dulling businesses' competitive edge.

The U.S. dollar fell against the euro, pound and yen on Friday during thin year-end trading. The euro rose to $1.3367 late Friday in New York, from $1.3286 Thursday. The British pound rose to $1.5590 from $1.5415 while the dollar fell to 81.21 Japanese yen from 81.52 yen.

For the year, the euro fell 8.3 percent against the dollar and the pound fell 2.5 percent against the dollar. But the dollar was down 12.2 percent against the yen.

Currency analysts at Wells Fargo Bank predict that over the next 12 months, the dollar will rise 7 percent against the yen, more than 4 percent against the euro and 1 percent against the pound.

The thinking: The U.S. economy will gain strength throughout 2011, outpacing Europe and Japan and encouraging U.S. businesses and consumers to borrow more. The demand for loans will push up U.S. interest rates, luring investors to the dollar in search of higher returns.

Europe looks perilous by contrast. In 2010, Greece and Ireland required emergency bailouts from other European countries and the International Monetary Fund. The terms of the bailouts forced them to slash government spending, triggering street protests. Now analysts fear that debt-ridden Spain and Portugal will be next.

"The major issues in Europe haven't gone away," says Mark McCormick, currency strategist at Brown Brothers Harriman. "Certain countries are insolvent. Others have fiscal issues they have to deal with." Spain's troubles, in particular, could strain Europe's bailout fund and might even threaten the future of the euro as the continent's common currency if European countries refused to put up more cash.

The Japanese yen rose sharply in 2010, partly because investors saw it as a safe haven from the troubles in Europe. But analysts suspect the yen's strength against the dollar will be sapped in 2011 by a weak Japanese economy and huge government debts. Japanese policymakers may also seek to push down the yen to give their exporters a price advantage.

China is facing different pressures. The Chinese economy has roared back from the Great Recession with such speed that it's set off inflation. Now, China is raising interest rates to cool growth. Chinese officials will have an incentive to let the country's currency, the yuan, rise against the dollar and other currencies to help tame inflation by pushing down the price of imports.

That could improve relations between Beijing and Washington, where politicians accuse China of keeping its currency artificially low. That has made Chinese exports cheaper in the U.S, and U.S. exports more expensive in China.

U.S. politicians were under pressure to ramp up the rhetoric against China in the election year 2010, especially with U.S. unemployment near 10 percent. In September, the House passed legislation that would allow the United States to impose tariffs on China if it didn't allow its currency to appreciate. The Senate never acted on the legislation.

Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, says the tension should ease in 2011 as the U.S. economy improves, the yuan rises and politicians are no longer stumping for votes.

"Allowing a stronger currency would be consistent with the objective of cooling off inflationary pressure," says Wells Fargo currency strategist Vassili Serebriakov. "China will not want to be seen as responding to political pressure."

So who's right? Im definitely leaning toward Gross, since AP is a complete Fed shill and Ben won't stop printing.

the count
12-31-2010, 08:56 PM
And right on time to counter him:

So who's right? Im definitely leaning toward Gross, since AP is a complete Fed shill and Ben won't stop printing.

You got that right bro. My money is on the bond guy.

SLSteven
12-31-2010, 10:03 PM
Pimco, based in Newport Beach, California, borrowed from the government’s Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility 96 times between April 2009 and March 2010 for a total of $7.26 billion.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-01/pimco-magnetar-tapped-federal-reserve-s-talf-program-as-bond-sales-froze.html

jclay2
01-01-2011, 04:55 AM
When a guy like this says move out of the Dollar you better listen.
This interview is a real eye opener, a must see. Bill Gross is a very smart, honest guy, a real gem in the corrupt, topsy turvy financial industry.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/65602098/

You have something else coming to you if you think Gross is an "honest guy". This is the same man who advocated for the Fed, TARP, and all the bailouts. I am more interested in what his most recent holding changes show. To me, that will tell me his true opinions.

squarepusher
01-01-2011, 06:17 AM
well, i know stock investors doesn't give away their good picks, so this really means nothing

cbc58
01-01-2011, 07:50 AM
gross is stareing at billions/trillions of potential losses so he will do anything he can to try and get some of that money back - by hook or by crook. getting out of the dollar is a matter of timing but eventually he and everyone else will be right.