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Agorism
12-19-2010, 07:05 PM
From Huckabee new book

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1859539,00.html

Huckabee called libertarians the "real threat" to the Republican Party...

In a chapter titled "Faux-Cons: Worse than Liberalism," Huckabee identifies what he calls the "real threat" to the Republican Party: "libertarianism masked as conservatism." ... "I don't take issue with what they believe, but the smugness with which they believe it," writes Huckabee, who raised some taxes as governor and cut deals with his state's Democratic legislature. "Faux-Cons aren't interested in spirited or thoughtful debate, because such an endeavor requires accountability for the logical conclusion of their argument." -Hucker


and


The greatest threat to classic Republicanism is not liberalism; it's this new brand of libertarianism, which is social liberalism and economic conservatism, but it's a heartless, callous, soulless type of economic conservatism because it says "look, we want to cut taxes and eliminate government. If it means that elderly people don't get their Medicare drugs, so be it. If it means little kids go without education and healthcare, so be it." Well, that might be a quote pure economic conservative message, but it's not an American message. ...

If you have a breakdown in the social structure of a community, it's going to result in a more costly government ... police on the streets, prison beds, court costs, alcohol abuse centers, domestic violence shelters, all are very expensive. What's the answer to that? Cut them out? Well, the libertarians say "yes, we shouldn't be funding that stuff." -Hucker

jct74
12-19-2010, 07:12 PM
Yeah, he doesn't like libertarianism. He's been bashing it for a while. That article is from 2008 BTW.

Sentient Void
12-19-2010, 07:18 PM
hahahah, wonderful! I love it.

Fuck the Huck.

Neocons such as he are on their way out. We *are* the threat because he and his ilk are being left in the dust.

It's unfortunate he hates liberty so much and loves imposing his idea of 'morality' on people down the barrel of a gun. Good riddens to bad rubbish.

guitarlifter
12-19-2010, 07:33 PM
The Fucker's got it all wrong. The American message is written in the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and the Great Rule, amongst others. The message is that "we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable Rights; that among these, are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness; that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

He thinks it's ok to commit crimes in order to bring his version of order. The truth is that libertarianism is true conservatism in context to the U.S. We conserve the Constitution, and the conservatives trying to conserve Christian values are only destroying them, for Christ never promotes sinful coercion, oppression or tyranny in order to promote things that he calls good. Charity is good, but ANY amount of theft in order to give to charity isn't charity at all, but tyrannical theft. And as for our "logical conclusions," our actions don't involve us performing crimes in order to get our version of the job done, and, not only is the Neocon ideology morally wrong, it's also an economic disaster.

Furthermore, he's right about us not wanting the elderly to get Medicare drugs. We want them to get drugs from privatized companies. He doesn't tackle the fact that all of those organizations that we would take away from government operation would be replaced by something better economically and not immoral.

Fuck the Huck.

HOLLYWOOD
12-19-2010, 07:40 PM
Yes, it's in black & white for the record from the Huckster...that slimball Huckabee will have to weasel his way around half the Tea party folks now. This is one 2012 establishment candidate that we will have to hit hard and call out his phony crusades and gimmicks for those primary votes.

amy31416
12-19-2010, 07:54 PM
Meh.

Just like so many "Christian" politicians, he picks and chooses which of the 10 commandments he likes at the time.

Thou shalt not steal--unless you're the government!
Thou shalt not kill--unless you're the government!

Any politician, or any person, for that matter who claims to be pro-life, yet is in favor of these wars in their current manifestation, is a giant hypocritical, phony.

guitarlifter
12-19-2010, 08:02 PM
Meh.

Just like so many "Christian" politicians, he picks and chooses which of the 10 commandments he likes at the time.

Thou shalt not steal--unless you're the government!
Thou shalt not kill--unless you're the government!

Any politician, or any person, for that matter who claims to be pro-life, yet is in favor of these wars in their current manifestation, is a giant hypocritical, phony.

The entire Christian neoconservative ideology is inconsistent anyway. If they're going to implement the Bible's laws, they have to implement ALL of them, but what would we then have as a result? Tyranny. Why isn't it tyranny if they only implement some of the Bible's laws. Let's not forget John Locke's rebuttal to these ideologies. Three arguments are central: (1) Earthly judges, the state in particular, and human beings generally, cannot dependably evaluate the truth-claims of competing religious standpoints; (2) Even if they could, enforcing a single "true religion" would not have the desired effect, because belief cannot be compelled by violence; (3) Coercing religious uniformity would lead to more social disorder than allowing diversity. Separate from this fact is that what they're doing is sinful despite the end it produces, whether that be good or bad, because the means are more important. If God valued ends above means, then he would've forced us all to believe. He wants us to believe upon our free will.

cindy25
12-19-2010, 08:21 PM
its his upbringing; Huck is the son of a govt employee (fireman); he mentioned on the Daily Show that is why he supports the 911 handout bill.

Kregisen
12-19-2010, 08:25 PM
"libertarianism masked as conservatism."

Funny how he tries to distinguish between the two when Ronald Reagan, the GOD of the Republican party blatantly said "The heart of conservatism is libertarianism".


If people still wanted to make a page of things to use against 2012 prez candidates, this should be something to add to huck. (though I'm pretty sure when he said if president he would outlaw smoking nationally, including private property such as bars, that should've killed him right there)




look, we want to cut taxes and eliminate government. If it means that elderly people don't get their Medicare drugs, so be it. If it means little kids go without education and healthcare, so be it." Well, that might be a quote pure economic conservative message, but it's not an American message.

And people call Obama a socialist........

Agorism
12-20-2010, 05:00 PM
bump

AGRP
12-20-2010, 05:05 PM
A tyrant doesn't like liberty? Go figure.

oyarde
12-20-2010, 05:24 PM
Meh.

Just like so many "Christian" politicians, he picks and chooses which of the 10 commandments he likes at the time.

Thou shalt not steal--unless you're the government!
Thou shalt not kill--unless you're the government!

Any politician, or any person, for that matter who claims to be pro-life, yet is in favor of these wars in their current manifestation, is a giant hypocritical, phony.

It gets worse . He once supported Cap & Tax . Talk about stealing !!!

RichieLibertarian
12-20-2010, 05:59 PM
that weasel can go fly a kite

YumYum
12-20-2010, 06:26 PM
Palin/Huckabee 2012??

TNforPaul45
12-20-2010, 06:32 PM
It is amazing how he can perpetuate the falsehood that libertarians want all the aid to the elderly cut immediately, when he knows this is completely false and its not hard to do a google search to find the leading libertarians expressly NOT saying this.

I am tempted to start dividing people into two groups, not R or D, not Federalist and Antifederalist, but Thinkers and Feelers.

Agorism
12-29-2010, 10:56 AM
bump