The best argument against a welfare state

[eugenekop]

When someone is arguing in favor of a welfare state, I simply answer:



No problem, you can have the ideal welfare state, just join a co-op that will contractually enforce all members to share the welfare payments of all other members. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. You can also have democratic elections in that co-op, just as you wish. I only ask you one thing, don't demand that I join this co-op. Is that something you can do?

This answer silences even the most horrible socialists and interventionists.

[kahless]

I use that myself. Conservation typically then ends or goes way off topic.

[Vessol]

Tried it myself.

It usually reverts to the Statist's favorite argument.

"BUT WHAT ABOUT ROADS!?"

[PreDeadMan]

hm.... tell the person I think you should be able to support the welfare state all you want all that i ask of you is do you support using violence against me if i don't pay for the welfare state? it will weed out the crazy people from the people who are propagandized... if they say yes.... get the hell out of dodge if they say no then you've got them thinking :)