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tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 08:45 AM
Witnesses testified on the possible application of the Espionage Act and related tensions with the First Amendment. Witnesses: • Mr. Abbe Lowell, Partner at McDermott, Will & Emery • Mr. Geoffrey Stone, Professor of Law and Former Dean, University of Chicago Law School • Mr. Thomas Blanton, Director, National Security Archive, George Washington University • Mr. Kenneth Wainstein, Partner at O’Melveny and Myers • Mr. Gabriel Schoenfeld, Hudson Institute • Mr. Steve Vladek, Professor of Law, American University • Mr. Ralph Nader, Legal Advocate and Author

This is being broadcast live and can also be streamed from c-span.org

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tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 09:01 AM
Should be starting now! - or in a min or two...

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tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 09:11 AM
Rep Conyers is earning some browny points with me this morn!

I like the way this is going.

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GunnyFreedom
12-16-2010, 09:14 AM
listening in background http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN3.aspx

GunnyFreedom
12-16-2010, 09:20 AM
never really liked Gohmert. I think he once did something that our community found good (Can't seem to recall it, but I do remember a couple ppl having a good word to say about the man), but dude always made me sick. He sure isn't helping his case right now.

HOLLYWOOD
12-16-2010, 09:25 AM
WTF? Rep Conyers, "I was awake most of the night reading the laws and I was awake when I read some of it"

Many protests across European countries in support for Assange... do you hear or see them on US MSM? Nope.

There's your NEOCON republican gohmert... giving hypothetical scenarios of fear and national security.

rep. Delahunt is dead on... "Secrecy is the Trademark of Tyranny"

tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 09:26 AM
w00t! Delahunt! (looks like he didn't win re-election or retired)

"secrecy is the trademark of tyranny"

Going after the classification process and over-classification

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HOLLYWOOD
12-16-2010, 09:29 AM
During the Nixon administrations... the White House Dinner menu was classified SECRET.

tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 09:41 AM
During the Nixon administrations... the White House Dinner menu was classified SECRET.

He should have just gotten a food taster...

tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 09:43 AM
I read this as a Assange walk and a green light to WikiLeaks (so long as they don't publish anything TS or TS/SCI).

It's a good day for the first amendment!

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GunnyFreedom
12-16-2010, 09:47 AM
LMAO - they need different seat coverings...

HOLLYWOOD
12-16-2010, 09:47 AM
Nice revival by Abbe Lowell on AIPAC spying

...I worked the AIPAC lobbyist spying case that was dropped by Justice Department 30 days before it was to go to trail.

There is today's true justice system in this country folks.

GunnyFreedom
12-16-2010, 10:30 AM
Nader tried to filibuster and the members semi-panicked lol

GunnyFreedom
12-16-2010, 10:40 AM
Nader shoutout to RP

tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 10:47 AM
Anyone notice the dirty trick by, presumably one of the 2 neocon reps of leaving their mike open, thus creating a bit of an echo? Also present when they didn't like what another person was saying. Kinda backfired on them, as if you listen close when the topic of who is and isn't a journalist came up, you could hear in the background, and I paraphrase: "If we let this stand, the doors are all open". CLEAR ATTACK on the first amendment is being plotted!

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HOLLYWOOD
12-16-2010, 11:04 AM
Steve Vladek, Professor of Law, American University & Ralph Nader ripped it up.

Nice jobs by the freedom fighters.

tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 02:24 PM
So where the hell is the rest of this hearing????

Just called c-span and they will re-air at 3:30 EST, but they may NEVER cover the end, after they come back. The girl didn't know. I really hope they cover the end, after they come back.

call them and COMPLAIN! (202) 737-3220

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tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 02:44 PM
OK - it's starting up again on re-run - they announced it runs 3 hrs and 15 mins. before they cut off at 1 hr and 40-45 mins. so we should get the rest.

BUT KEEP CALLING! Give them a real clear idea that this is a HOT TOPIC!

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tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 02:52 PM
Gohmert is soooo full of shit! - total neocon! we need to work on giving that guy a pink slip!

tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 03:13 PM
Has anyone else noticed that whenever a congress critter speaks of these leaks, they allways refer to them in the plural. Manning is not the only leaker, and I seriously doubt anything in the insurance file has a classification under TS.

Also, Assange being assassinated would not trigger the key release. Bringing WikiLeaks down would. Their lawyers have said as much. Assange getting killed would trigger a TON of pay back, though...

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tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 04:13 PM
GAME ON! - post vote break dialogue is happening! - Tune in NOW!

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Vessol
12-16-2010, 04:40 PM
During the Nixon administrations... the White House Dinner menu was classified SECRET.

Did Nixon eat puppies or something? Wouldn't surprise me.

tangent4ronpaul
12-16-2010, 05:10 PM
WOW! - what an incredible hearing! - one of the best I've ever seen!!

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