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MRoCkEd
12-14-2010, 07:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T_ggPWNm5M&feature=sub

teacherone
12-14-2010, 07:58 AM
god the judge is soooo good.

good on beck giving him a voice.

Slutter McGee
12-14-2010, 08:21 AM
Can someone post a three sentance rundown on what was said for me.? No videos here at work.

Slutter McGee

hazek
12-14-2010, 08:23 AM
Beck is not friend. If this video doesn't convince you of that, nothing will. He may have given the judge a voice but he made damn sure to make his opinion just as loud and his opinion is far from ours as far as I could tell.

Don't Tread on Mike
12-14-2010, 08:25 AM
looove it. judge ftw!

cswake
12-14-2010, 08:26 AM
Judge talks about the good that Wikileaks does for us and supports it with case law. He also goes on to explain why the government is trying to block Wikileaks, and how Peter King's anti-wikileaks bill is wrong. Wraps up with why the TSA is leading us into becoming a North Korea/East Germany.

Chester Copperpot
12-14-2010, 08:30 AM
thats such a great video... a must for everybody to watch

Chester Copperpot
12-14-2010, 08:34 AM
Beck is not friend. If this video doesn't convince you of that, nothing will. He may have given the judge a voice but he made damn sure to make his opinion just as loud and his opinion is far from ours as far as I could tell.

I think Beck is definitely a friend.. People have to just know to follow their own gut and not follow anybody blindly.

Beck has come along way since the days he thought we were terrorists... He is a tremendous platform for reaching a lot of neoconned people and I think its great how the judge has spread liberty to him.

hazek
12-14-2010, 09:03 AM
NO NO and NO! I will argue this with anybody who thinks as you do Mike.

Please, please I beg you to understand how unbelievably important it is when Beck says stuff like: "I am uncomfortable, there's no good win here if he continues, he is an enemy of the state, if he continues, he is taking stolen documents and he is putting them out, and there are some things that should be kept secret in diplomacy however he is exposing the lies of our government"

Please understand that the TV zombies who are at home watching this hear only ENEMY OF THE STATE, NOTHING GOOD CAN COME OUT OF THIS, HE IS STEALING SECRETS WE MUST PROTECT and the rest just doesn't matter.

There is only a small percentage of the general audience who actually listens and THINKS while listening and makes up their own mind, THE REST, THE MAJORITY hears only the few sound bites that have the biggest emotional effect on them.

If Beck was on our side, he could have chosen oh so many other ways to start off with the topic that would keep a neutral or even favorable light on the issue instead of demonizing it from the get go. And you can think I'm crazy all you want but that's the power of the most awesome god damn propaganda machine in the world - the TV and it's the sole reason why Obama got elected and why Ron didn't. Nothing will ever change if you don't realize this! Nothing!

RonPaulCult
12-14-2010, 09:43 AM
No, Beck is not a friend. But he is better than most in that he says more truth than most and give our side a voice more than most.

payme_rick
12-14-2010, 09:54 AM
Well I guess since Fox allows Judge Napolitano to give his opinion for an hour 5 days a week they're our friend too?

CNN, MsNBC? They let Ron Paul give his opinion a lot, must be our friends...

It's all business, baby! Use 'em when you can, but don't give 'em the keys...

cooker263
12-14-2010, 10:18 AM
Anybody else see how contradictory Beck and the audience look? At first: "Shut him up!" then... "The government sucks! They lie! We should know!"

Not that I'm too surprised. I don't mind Beck, though. He's come a long way and is a medium to transition people our way. I never would have gotten here if he wasn't a step in the right direction, most likely. I wasn't really into politics but caught his show randomly a few times to see RP and Schiff on. That's what brought me in.

Jandrsn21
12-14-2010, 10:25 AM
Beck may not be perfect, however, these exchanges between him and the judge are amazing! Beck has a HUGE audience and allowing the Judge to slip in these very powerful points is astonishing to see on tv, ill be honest.

hazek
12-14-2010, 10:33 AM
No, Beck is not a friend. But he is better than most in that he says more truth than most and give our side a voice more than most.


I certainly agree with that.

EDIT: all I want is for everyone to realize he is not a friend, he does help, but is not a friend. That's all.

Working Poor
12-14-2010, 10:58 AM
like John Lennon said:

"It's all show biz"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6_yB6ab6Pc&feature=related

purplechoe
12-15-2010, 02:44 AM
Don't care for Beck but the Judge was AWESOME!!!

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x93/sonicspikesalbum/MattandtheJudge-ee.jpg

Bman
12-15-2010, 02:55 AM
I'll give praise where praise is due. Beck should be praised for having the judge on the show and having what seems to be an honest conversation. He makes his case where he is uncomfortable and lets the judge explain why liberty must be defended.

I'm not a big Beck fan but I'm not about to beat on someone for having an interview I found rather enjoyable.

TruckinMike
12-15-2010, 06:45 PM
Every since the Medina fiasco I've despised Beck, distrusted beck, and frankly wished the SOB would fall over dead. That being said; after reading all of the previous posts I was pleasantly surprised. I don't believe that the audience left there wanting to stone Assange. I believe that the judge took the audience from Beck. I think now the audience might think of the 1st Am before getting the rope - even while despising the villain at hand. Let us hope...

TMike

Todd
12-15-2010, 06:56 PM
So....Is Beck right? Does Assange surround himself with Marxists? Does he champion those causes?

Cause there's a bunch of people here who think he's a libertarian.

keh10
12-15-2010, 09:47 PM
So....Is Beck right? Does Assange surround himself with Marxists? Does he champion those causes?

Cause there's a bunch of people here who think he's a libertarian.

Yeah, I've wondered that myself. Even if he is a socialist, he's doing a better job of promoting transparency than he is socialism and I'll take that as a win.

Inflation
12-15-2010, 10:10 PM
So....Is Beck right? Does Assange surround himself with Marxists? Does he champion those causes?

Cause there's a bunch of people here who think he's a libertarian.

Libertarians are often tolerant of other belief systems, and can easily be friends with Marxists, socialists, and other assorted nogoodniks.

Assange often surrounds himself with leftists for the same reason that Max Keiser does:

TO GET CHICKS.

There is a dearth of radical female libertarians, in case you hadn't noticed that the liberty movement is pretty much a sausage-fest.

fj45lvr
12-16-2010, 12:25 AM
Enemy of the State??

Like that is a BAD thing!!!!!


I hope the state crumbles in an hour

fj45lvr
12-16-2010, 12:28 AM
So....Is Beck right? Does Assange surround himself with Marxists? Does he champion those causes?

Cause there's a bunch of people here who think he's a libertarian.


It doesn't make one ounce of difference what the messengers politics are when he is merely delivering messages of others .....

Now if he is making it up or editing what people see then of course you can argue bias and manipulation....I have yet to hear that argument made and how could it be when the "message" is supposedly "secret" info????

Bman
12-16-2010, 12:30 AM
Enemy of the State??

Like that is a BAD thing!!!!!


I hope the state crumbles in an hour


Careful what you wish for. "Radical ideas" are one thing, watching the world around you burn is another. An hour is far too little time to transition to where I would guess you'd want things to end up, unless you want to go all survivor like in a movie.

fj45lvr
12-16-2010, 12:34 AM
Careful what you wish for. "Radical ideas" are one thing, watching the world around you burn is another. An hour is far too little time to transition to where I would guess you'd want things to end up, unless you want to go all survivor like in a movie.

Please....

Mankind has lived much longer without "the state" than with the racket......sounds like people questioning if the neighborhood is going to be "safe" without the MOB to offer their protection services.

Hell yeah .....don't even blink on pulling the plug on the state, if only it were that easy.

eOs
12-16-2010, 12:36 AM
Can someone post a three sentance rundown on what was said for me.? No videos here at work.

Slutter McGee

Ben Gleck: Wikileaks is a threat

Judge: Freeeeeedoooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

FSP-Rebel
12-16-2010, 12:41 AM
wat

idirtify
12-16-2010, 12:49 AM
i don't believe that the audience left there wanting to stone assange. I believe that the judge took the audience from beck. I think now the audience might think of the 1st am before getting the rope

qft!

idirtify
12-16-2010, 12:53 AM
Enemy of the State??

Like that is a BAD thing!!!!!


I hope the state crumbles in an hour

Yeah, this term is commonly used to falsely insinuate “enemy of the country”, when it actually means “enemy of the government”.

Bman
12-16-2010, 01:01 AM
Please....

Mankind has lived much longer without "the state" than with the racket......sounds like people questioning if the neighborhood is going to be "safe" without the MOB to offer their protection services.

Hell yeah .....don't even blink on pulling the plug on the state, if only it were that easy.

Lets get real. Who do you think is going to run the place if a collapse happens?

fj45lvr
12-16-2010, 01:03 AM
Yeah, this term is commonly used to falsely insinuate “enemy of the country”, when it actually means “enemy of the government”.

right on....and we know "the gubbermint" is "run" by some really niffty folks that only want to serve the public!! LOL

fj45lvr
12-16-2010, 01:05 AM
Lets get real. Who do you think is going to run the place if a collapse happens?


run what? What has to be "operated"?? what "place"??


I guess we'll find out which "war Lord" tries to rule the empire when the current "state" enters into the inevitable collapse, won't we???

idirtify
12-16-2010, 01:32 AM
Lets get real. Who do you think is going to run the place if a collapse happens?

Lots of people RUN lots of very big places everyday without any need from the government. What makes you think “government” is the only thing that can run big things? Actually, government is relatively incompetent at running most (all?) of the places it runs.

Mach
12-16-2010, 05:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T_ggPWNm5M&feature=sub

Thanks, good stuff.

The Judge is awesome, I'd like to see him and Beck sit and talk for at least an hour straight.

Here, I'll compliment Beck..... he did a very good job of being corrected on his own show. ;)

nobody's_hero
12-16-2010, 06:13 AM
Thanks, good stuff.

The Judge is awesome, I'd like to see him and Beck sit and talk for at least an hour straight.

Here, I'll compliment Beck..... he did a very good job of being corrected on his own show. ;)

It's an interesting format of conversation. I say that it seems to be working.

Beck represents the people who are not exactly trusting of government, but are perhaps lingering on whether or not Assange should be trusted. The Judge comes on to the show and has this conversation with Beck, which ends up with Beck focusing a bit more on skepticism of government rather than skepticism of Assange. The audience, which has more closely related to what Beck has been saying, starts to look at the bigger picture. While the gears are turning in their heads, the Judge throws in a reference to the Constitution, a real-world historical event in which the government has usurped the Constitution, and the people begin to forget all about Assange being a socialist (maybe he is, but transparency is transparency) in exchange for focusing on the bigger picture.

cswake
12-16-2010, 07:34 AM
Here, I'll compliment Beck..... he did a very good job of being corrected on his own show. ;)Too bad he had to throw the attacks on Assange, who is on record saying that he associates with libertarianism, not marxism or communism.

heavenlyboy34
12-16-2010, 01:13 PM
Beck is an ignorant fool here. Wikileaks worked in conjunction with professional journalists in his work, as shown in the wikirebels docu-film. It's absurd to call Assange a "Marxist" or "communist". Assange's own words disprove those attacks on his character. I'm disappointed to see so much support for Beck around here. :( So far, this debate with the judge and a few interviews with RP is the best that's come from him. His wackiness doesn't lend credibility to the liberty movement-quite the contrary. Good for the judge for at appearing on the show and trying to disseminate truth on Beck's otherwise disinformation program.