Pre-debate coverage is starting now on FOX

[LibertyEagle]

This should be interesting.

[RP4ME]

yes but I have a feeling im gonna start yelling at my TV and scare my poor dog again...he almost didnt surviv ethe last debates with me

[kylejack]

what time is the debate

[rpfreedom08]

links to live feed? Thanks.

[M.Bellmore]

All i see is McCain yammering on

[ne1buthilary]

8 est i believe.. someone please correct me if i'm wrong

[Shellshock1918]

HA! chris grilled McCain on his campaign spending hypocrisy!

8pm est is correct.

[atariman486]

Can someone explain how John McCain having almost no money in the bank when you factor in debt means that your campaign is having a comeback?? Does FOX just make news up as they go along?

[lorindon]

ugh, he said threats to Israel are more serious than threats to the U.S. =\

[brandon]

Does FOX just make news up as they go along?

Yes.

[ItsTime]

quick answer, yes


Can someone explain how John McCain having almost no money in the bank when you factor in debt means that your campaign is having a comeback?? Does FOX just make news up as they go along?

[jgmaynard]

I have a friend who gets his news ONLY from Fox and Rush (he actually refers to Rush as "the news" ugh), and he thought that Ron says that 9/11 was an inside job.
Yes, they make up the news to suit their own needs, as does most media. That's why I purposely read and view many, many sources for the news so they'll at least balance each other out. LOL.

JM

[Seth M.]

I like how they say that HE says the GOP Congress has "lost its way"

All of the candidates seem to be taking bits and pieces of Dr Paul's campaign. Is this good or bad? I guess it does allow the viewer to focus on ONLY what the media wants them to focus on about Ron.. huh?

[Johnnybags]

quick answer, yes

The MSM go by the motto "perception becomes reality" behind closed doors. Tell the idiots what to think and they will, and its true for 90% of the nation.

[rpfreedom08]

Yes.

lol, no joke. WHY DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THE MEDIA?

[greves]

Links to live feed anyone?? I'm looking, have not found yet. I'll start a thread to bring some more attention... I know a lot of people are looking for this at the moment.

[Shellshock1918]

lol, no joke. WHY DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THE MEDIA?

What is their alternative? I mean really. Most wouldn't think to go online for their news.

[LibertyEagle]

[..

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

For live feed, try TVU, download here: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Internet-Radio-TV-Player/TVUPlayer.shtml

Someone on the Forums turned me onto in a while ago, and I'm using it now for the first time. Works great.

[atariman486]

Huckabee just stated he won the Palmetto Family Council's Straw Poll by a landslide, turns out he beat out RP 206 to 179

[rpfreedom08]

What is their alternative? I mean really. Most wouldn't think to go online for their news.

People, this is the 21st century (the computer age). Tv is so last century.

[MsDoodahs]

Oh, man, Huckabee is such a LIAR. I really despise him, he gives me creepies.

[torchbearer]

Huckabee just stated he won the Palmetto Family Council's Straw Poll by a landslide, turns out he beat out RP 206 to 179

a 27 vote landslide?

[RP4ME]

Hey is RP scheduled to talk now??? I need to walk my dog....

[Trassin]

There is no way they are going to get all the candidates in with as much time as they are giving Huck and McCain.

[RP4ME]

Is PAul coming on pre debate? I have to walk the dog! Please

[MsDoodahs]

Ack, he's claiming he has stellar character.

YOU ARE A LIAR, HUCKSTER.

[Trassin]

Looks like they are done for now, RP4ME

[RP4ME]

Is PAul coming on pre debate? I have to walk the dog! Please

For the love of all taht is sacred and holy please - answer my qw!!!!!

[Geronimo]

Looks like they are done for now, RP4ME

RP4Me^^^^

Go walk your dog! ..lol

[LibertyEagle]

Oh, man, Huckabee is such a LIAR. I really despise him, he gives me creepies.

Ditto.

[RP4ME]

Thank u ! Geeeshh!

[Seth M.]

Does anyone think that this "who is conservative and who is not" was FOUNDED by RON... He was schooling this neocons on what a conservative is months ago.. can you say "undermine"

Gosh do they think they are going to chip out Ron Paul's support? or steal future supporters?

[ConstitutionGal]

Is PAul coming on pre debate? I have to walk the dog! Please

Go walk your dog before you scare the pee outta him later!! :D

[Shellshock1918]

Ugh William Kristol, what a filthy individual.

[mtbaird5687]

Hume sounds drunk right now haha

[RP4ME]

Go walk your dog before you scare the pee outta him later!! :D

Maximus says thanks you

[ConstitutionGal]

<I>Gosh do they think they are going to chip out Ron Paul's support? or steal future supporters?</I><P>
I think that's exactly what they're hoping and, frankly, given the intellect of the common voter, they just may succeed with the future supporters segment although us current supports would rather fight than switch!

[Corydoras]

Maximus says thanks you

I have no line into Dr. Paul's head, but I do imagine he really, truly wouldn't want any dogs bursting for his sake.
:p

[Trassin]

They are completely avoiding even saying RP's name. :(

[Starks]

"we're Hungry!"

[Malakai0]

Wow could they possibly promote ghouliani any more than they are?

His name is said once every 5 seconds...

[atariman486]

LOL!! They just called Rudy Giuliani the "most authentic" candidate so far. :eek:

I'm sick of them talking about the online vs in-person results from the FRC poll yesterday. Some people that went to the conference said they voted online to avoid the long lines for in-person voting. FRC should've stated they were really running two polls!

[ConstitutionGal]

Wow could they possibly promote ghouliani any more than they are?

His name is said once every 5 seconds...
Those who are actually in control of our nation are pushing for a Ghoul/Clinton general electon so another Clintoon will inhabit the White House. Hopefully, the American public won't fall for it but I'm not holding my breath.

[LibertyEagle]

Rudy, Romney and Huck. The MEDIA has spoken. Including 'ol Bill Kristol, king of the neocons. I can't tell you how much I enjoy hearing this guy talk. :(

[LibertyEagle]

This is just a bunch of propaganda. It's sickening.

[Malakai0]

I shut it off. I'll put it back on at 8. I'd rather listen to nails on a chalkboard then those blatantly biased windbags.

Hey we're gonna shove a few corrupt candidates down your throat and not once say Ron Pauls name, even tho he has more money than most of them!

[Neal Jiutai]

I'm actually here in the Press Filing Center at the Presedency IV debate.

Because of our new, paleo-conservative newspaper, The Liberty Sentinel (http://www.libertysentinel.org), we got press credentials for both days. :-D

I've got lots of footage of what's been going on these past few days, including us questioning McCain and Hunter, and all the RP support at Paullapalooza (the rally in downtown Orlando)

They'll be giving us access to the candidates to photograph them before the debate.

We've also got a commitment to a one-on-one interview with Paul after the debate. :-D

[lorindon]

This is just a bunch of propaganda. It's sickening.

I hear you.

I'm on the verge of getting violent if this continues all evening.

[slantedview]

Rudy, Romney and Huck. The MEDIA has spoken. Including 'ol Bill Kristol, king of the neocons. I can't tell you how much I enjoy hearing this guy talk. :(
It's odd that the PTB want huck, but the people seem to not (no $).

[Malakai0]

If I was there I'd stagedive the talking heads screaming "LIES AND PROPOGANDA".


I'd not mention the good doc of course =)

[Malakai0]

It's odd that the PTB want huck, but the people seem to not (no $).



I don't think the people want Guliani or Romney either. If they only got to report individual donations I don't think they would be doing so hot. Romney is sunk and has been sunk, he is spending all borrowed money and his own money.

[GML3G]

"Who is the real Republican?" ???

You have got be FREAKING KIDDING ME!

On a side note, as I was flipping through the channels, MSNBC or CNN - I don't remember which - covered a story were 60-75 % of fake "bombs" passed through airport security during a routine check. However, there this one airport whose security was managed by a PRIVATE company. Only 20% of the "bombs" slipped through their security. This would strengthen some of Ron Paul's arguments, would it not?

[Seth M.]

It's odd that the PTB want huck, but the people seem to not (no $).

They want a VP Huck to make a "close" election. (looks more real) THe endgame is Clinton. Giuliani is a (blatant) prop.. Huck is a "hopefully not" prop to the populous

[Starks]

"Who is the real Republican?" ???

You have got be FREAKING KIDDING ME!

On a side note, as I was flipping through the channels, MSNBC or CNN - I don't remember which - covered a story were 60-75 % of fake "bombs" passed through airport security during a routine check. However, there this one airport whose security was managed by a PRIVATE company. Only 20% of the "bombs" slipped through their security. This would strengthen some of Ron Paul's arguments, would it not?

Any bombs getting through is unacceptable, private or government run.

[Starks]

LOL! Hume just called Kristol a neocon!

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Oh, yuck. Are any of you still watching this?

I have been a Republican my whole life, but I think I would rather be forced to listen to Hillary Clinton speak than Bill Kristol.

[82ndVET4RP]

Your right Hume looks so drunk right now.

[Shellshock1918]

Juan schooled Kristol.

Kristol is such a little bitch, with his stupid neo-con talking points.

[mwkaufman]

Who's the black guy? I like his view on the war. (Obviously.)

[atariman486]

Haha... Juan Williams just said something about neocons being in Giuliani's camp and everyone's facial expression was priceless. I think they were surprised that he was calling them out as "neocons"

[GML3G]

Any bombs getting through is unacceptable, private or government run.

Nevertheless, it shows the inefficiency of the bureaucracy and how money is being wasted in redundant and inefficient goverment agencies (DOHS). The private security company did a better job.

[0zzy]

That black guy was the only sane one there.
"WHAT! IRAN? NUKE! NO! CANT HAPPEN! U SUPPORT THEM HAVING A NUKE IN IRAN!"
"no... but we can live with a nuclear Iran"
"BUT! ISRAEL! ISREALLL!"

[Shellshock1918]

Who's the black guy? I like his view on the war. (Obviously.)

Juan Williams.

Guys don't be surprised if the first question they ask Paul is about the war. They are trying to distance him from the Republican base.

[kmforpaul]

Did anyone else see the irony when Kristol said the only solution to Iran is war, and then a cut to a 'Beaches Vacation' commercial.

Our country is so disillusioned.

[Shellshock1918]

Haha... Juan Williams just said something about neocons being in Giuliani's camp and everyone's facial expression was priceless. I think they were surprised that he was calling them out as "neocons"

His body will be found in a dumpster tomorrow morning.

Ugh Insanity and Corpse is on now...

[Starks]

It's time for Hannity and... HANNITY!

[atariman486]

LOL! Colmes does look suspiciously like the Crypt Keeper.


His body will be found in a dumpster tomorrow morning.

Ugh Insanity and Corpse is on now...

[Trassin]

Wonder if they will claim that people are redialing when RP wins the post debate poll again.

[paulitics]

Haha... Juan Williams just said something about neocons being in Giuliani's camp and everyone's facial expression was priceless. I think they were surprised that he was calling them out as "neocons"

The actual self admitted neocons are working for Giuliani, the intelectuals like Podhoretz who write books on neoconservatism. Yep, they are loud and proud.

[Shellshock1918]

Oh boy the usual "random selection" crowd. "I like Rudy cause he'll keep me safe."

Stupidity.

WTF!! Romney vs the Ghoul??

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE MORONS???

Neo-con hotbed of stupidity.

[fj45lvr]

interviewing airheads now??? Rudy on immigration??? what a joke.

[atariman486]

There goes Shammity with his "Great American" mumbo-jumbo. Why do they have the voting poll up before the debate even begins? Is this like a trap for RP supporters... "Ron Paul wins with 40% of text message votes... but they all came at 7:00 an hour before the debate" :D

[Starks]

"I think 9/11 and that's why I like Rudy!"

[quickmike]

OMFG!!!!

did you see that Rudy lady?

[dt_]

"Republicans do not want to lose to Hillary Clinton."

THEN NOMINATE RON PAUL!! What don't these people understand?! :D

[Tenbatsu]

Those interviews made me sick. I'm sure they were "randomly" selected from the crowd.

[risiusj]

"I think 9/11 and that's why I like Rudy!"

Someone said this?! :(

[mwkaufman]

Best thing McCain has going for him is being a POW.

:confused:

[dt_]

John McCain: Because being in a Vietnam POW camp is what makes a good president.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

They're expecting fireworks. Look for manufactured arguments with Ron Paul.

[Ron Paul Fan]

Mitt Romney: Credibility is his strength! :confused:

[Starks]

WOW! Luntz just rigged the entire real-time response thingy... HE'S SEEDING THE GROUP!

[Pharoah]

It's worth reminding everyone that a Judge once agreed with Fox' lawyers that their "news" service had no obligation to tell the truth. [They were sueing their own disloyal reporters.]

[atariman486]

Gosh.... talk to the firefighters in NYC!!! The only thing Rudy did for 9/11 was ensure 120+ firefighters deaths due to poor radios that had been complained about since 93!

[Trassin]

Apparently Rudy, Mitt, and McCain are the only ones in the debate tonight. At least that is the feeling you get listening to the pre-debate.

Oh, apparently Fred might be there to.

I hate MSM.

[quickmike]

I cant watch this bullshit, sorry.


Someone tell me when the debate gets youtubed ok?:mad:

[dt_]

Giuliani's smile is downright frightening. >_<

[Seth M.]

this woman doesnt know who she is talking about


rudy or romney.. lmao

[bbachtung]

Frank Luntz looks and acts a lot like a textbook pedophile.

[atariman486]

I don't think I've heard RP mentioned in 2 hours+ pre-debate coverage so far. Luckily I'm streaming on TVUplayer... I don't even have FAUXnews :)

[slantedview]

Is the debate going to be live through the FNC website? I can't find it.

[silverhandorder]

God fox can't conduct polls so they will tell us who won. They suck!

[bbachtung]

If they don't mention Ron Paul, then he doesn't really exist.

I'm expecting them to deploy the blue dot from the William Kennedy Smith trial when the camera turns toward Ron Paul.

[EvilTwinkie]

Lol Im pissed off already.

"the only" is anyone but Paul?

I already forgot who he said that was... Huckabee o Mccain... gawd..

How about "the only one to uphold the constitution" or "the only one for sound monetary policy?"

[Gimme Some Truth]

"focus group" = Bush supporters no doubt

[Akus]

where is the internet live feed?

Anyone?

[RP4ME]

I have no line into Dr. Paul's head, but I do imagine he really, truly wouldn't want any dogs bursting for his sake.
:p

Aww thanks - Max is more "at peace" now.....

[atariman486]

http://www.tvunetworks.com/

You can stream it on this... I've been doing it the past 2 hours and its worked like a charm.

[dt_]

What are the odds of Ron Paul having the leftmost podium.... again?

[atariman486]

If they don't mention Ron Paul, then he doesn't really exist.

I'm expecting them to deploy the blue dot from the William Kennedy Smith trial when the camera turns toward Ron Paul.

LOL! Or it would be funny if they coincidentally had technical difficulties everytime RP speaks. Hopefully they'll at least turn Ghouls' mic down this time.

[bbachtung]

What are the odds of Ron Paul having the leftmost podium.... again?

I'd bet every cent.

[Akus]

http://www.tvunetworks.com/

You can stream it on this... I've been doing it the past 2 hours and its worked like a charm.

no, i meant the actual fox news stream. CNBC had it and so did the ABC, so Fox's gotta have it, too.

[Seth M.]

They are telling everyone that they have to choose tonight .... a whole year in advance.. this is funny... they act like every voter watches debates..

They are decisively implying that they have to NOT choose Paul tonight.. Pick Rudy or Romney

funny yet sad.

[atariman486]

"There's no reason the average American shouldn't be able to fill out his tax return on a single sheet of paper" -Forbes, from the Giuliani camp

RP would say "There's no reason the average American should HAVE TO PAY TAXES, PERIOD"

[barcop]

I have the feeling... the text poll is going to count every other vote for Ron Paul... as a vote for Gouls.

I just don't think it's going to be legit this time.

[Tenbatsu]

Steve Forbes, he should be for Ron Paul, I can't believe he is endorsing Rudy. Unbelievable.

[ItsTime]

Do Not Vote For Ron Paul Until after The Debate!

[LibertyEagle]

WOW! Luntz just rigged the entire real-time response thingy... HE'S SEEDING THE GROUP!

Luntz is an Image Consultant and he is hard at work. ;)

[dt_]

^ well, the INCOME tax.. that's not doing away with ALL taxes. :/

[LibertyEagle]

Do Not Vote For Ron Paul Until after The Debate!

Did you hear them say that they wanted people to vote DURING the debate? They said they wanted to gauge how we thought the candidates were doing as it was going on.

[dt_]

nvm oops

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Steve Forbes . . . I regret that I supported him for 2000.

[atariman486]

^ Yea, income tax is what I meant, sorry. It was in the context of filing a year-end tax form :)

[M.Bellmore]

Geez. Can Hannity be more of a butt snorkler (navy buddy term, i like it) for Guiliani .. geesh. :mad:

[Tina]

I have the feeling... the text poll is going to count every other vote for Ron Paul... as a vote for Gouls.

I just don't think it's going to be legit this time.

Yeah, that thought crossed my mind as well.

[angelatc]

I just cannot get past the fact that Ron Paul is not even being mentioned. They will not even mock him.

Giuliani supporters baffle me. The blonde woman chattered that Rudy had family and God and the War...I get the war, I do not agree, but if that's her thing then he's her guy. But you cannot convince me that he deserves the pro-family, pro-christian vote.

[RP4ME]

What are the odds that he is allowed to won thsi online poll tonight.....cuz FOX is working it hard not marginalize him and prevent new potential supporters...Hmm What do yall think?

So far they have been "honest" what about tonight?

[angelatc]

Did you hear them say that they wanted people to vote DURING the debate? They said they wanted to gauge how we thought the candidates were doing as it was going on.

That's a set up. They want the Paul folks to vote as soon as the poll opens. They really need to find some way to discredit us.

If only they worked so hard to discredit the lying candidates.

[RP4ME]

What are the odds that he is allowed to won thsi online poll tonight.....cuz FOX is working it hard not marginalize him and prevent new potential supporters...Hmm What do yall think?

So far they have been "honest" what about tonight?

ahh I see that others are thinking as I am

[LibertyEagle]

Lol Im pissed off already.

"the only" is anyone but Paul?

I already forgot who he said that was... Huckabee o Mccain... gawd..

How about "the only one to uphold the constitution" or "the only one for sound monetary policy?"

And the only one who will get us out of the war. The only one who has the tax reduction record he claims. (It's already been proven that Rudy is flat out lying about his 23 tax reductions!!)

[twister5400]

are they really not going to mention ron paul? this is rediculous

[LibertyEagle]

I wonder if they'll have someone from Ron's camp on here.

[atariman486]

If they show the results along-side the debate as it happens.. maybe we should trickle a few supporters to keep Paul in the running and then vote after to ensure victory :)

[bbachtung]

Forbes has sold-out to the Ghoul; my guess is that he has been promised Secretary of the Treasury.

I will do everything in my power to ensure that the Ghoul loses the general election if he is the Republican nominee; as I've said before, at least if Hillary is the president, then the Republicans will oppose her authoritarian proposals.

[LibertyEagle]

God, I can't stand Sean Hannity.

[ItsTime]

Did you hear them say that they wanted people to vote DURING the debate? They said they wanted to gauge how we thought the candidates were doing as it was going on.

Yes I did... its a set up.


That's a set up. They want the Paul folks to vote as soon as the poll opens. They really need to find some way to discredit us.

If only they worked so hard to discredit the lying candidates.

Exactly

[angelatc]

Fred reminds Mary of Cheney!!! GReat endorsement! People love Cheney!

[twister5400]

haha... fred thompson's advisor said he reminds her of dick cheney... nice

[Starks]

Thompson adviser: "Fred reminds me of Dick Cheney."

[LibertyEagle]

How are you guys so sure that it's a setup?

[atariman486]

Wow! Not only are they not mentioning RP.. in a news article on the website they call him a second-tier candidate still... I guess raising more dough than Huck's month-long total in a single day doesn't mean he has more support ?!?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303827,00.html

"Whether the top-tier Republicans — or the other candidates, House Reps. Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo and Ron Paul — make any inroads with voters on Sunday night "

DISGUSTING!

[Neal Jiutai]

Apparently Rudy, Mitt, and McCain are the only ones in the debate tonight. At least that is the feeling you get listening to the pre-debate.

Oh, apparently Fred might be there to.

I hate MSM.

Yeah, Fred's here. He gave a horribly short rally speech yesterday. (He's not a good off-the-cuff speaker if you haven't noticed).

Giuliani, Romney, Thompson, and McCain all appealed to Ronald Reagan in their speeches. Giuliani singing the praises of Reagan, what blasphemy. Fred even spoke about how Barry Goldwater's book inspired him throughout his political career... funny, seeing as how his homepage claims that America has had a tradition of "sacrifice for the greater good."

[ItsTime]

I would just rather play it safe. I can see it now... Ron Paul gets 20k votes before the debate/during the debate but Romney got 10k after and paul only 2k. The clear winner of the whole debate is Romney.


How are you guys so sure that it's a setup?

[atariman486]

Hmmm... so Mary likes a Dick who's steady and not "flappable"... guess you can't blame her for that. :D

[angelatc]

LOL! "Would Fred sign an amendment that defines marriage as between a man and a woman?"

[Starks]

"I don't want Fred to answer the question..."

[torchbearer]

don't vote in pre-debate polls.

[angelatc]

How are you guys so sure that it's a setup?

Because I am becoming a conspiracy theorist!

My hubby's phone jusst rang. I told him "It's Fox - wanting to know why you haven't voted for Ron Paul yet." :)

[0zzy]

"less taxes, less spending, less individual freedom"
did he just say that?

[Starks]

Yes! Drown Out The Romney Croney!

[ItsTime]

someone in another thread just said that they tried to vote and couldnt I guess it is a moot point.

[mwkaufman]

Colmes is ripping Romney clone.

But lol, "I wanted less taxes and more freedom... I met the candidates, and I support Romney!"

[angelatc]

Ya know, we should make note of the people who are advertising during this debate / pre-debate by noting the commercials. Those are the people we need to target with complaints.

[angelatc]

someone in another thread just said that they tried to vote and couldnt I guess it is a moot point.

The poll will go live as soon as the debate begins. DO not vote that early.

[leipo]

Colmes is ripping Romney clone.

But lol, "I wanted less taxes and more freedom... I met the candidates, and I support Romney!"

He even added "less goverment" to that.

Way to steal Ron Paul's message.

[ItsTime]

agreed


The poll will go live as soon as the debate begins. DO not vote that early.

[Trassin]

Have they mentioned RP's name at all yet?

[bbachtung]

I don't understand where these neotards keep pushing the line item veto: it is unconstitutional because it violates separation of powers and makes the president a super-legislator.

[Original_Intent]

Grrr "coming down to a two man race" my hiney.

[johnrocks]

Let them keep brushing him off. I would almost give my right testicle to see them ass hats eat crow when RP wins NH:D

[quickmike]

Have they mentioned RP's name at all yet?

Nope................. not once.

[quickmike]

Let them keep brushing him off. I would almost give my right testicle to see them ass hats eat crow when RP wins NH:D

Yeah, and if that happens, I guarantee that will be the day that Fox supports Hillary.

[Hook]

I don't understand where these neotards keep pushing the line item veto: it is unconstitutional because it violates separation of powers and makes the president a super-legislator.

It's just an excuse. The president can veto any bill and write down what he doesn't like when he sends it back. Congress can then change it if they so choose.
Just another subtrefuge.

[atariman486]

Let them keep brushing him off. I would almost give my right testicle to see them ass hats eat crow when RP wins NH:D

I really hope the freestate project and other activists can deliver NH for Ron!

[bbachtung]

Connie Mack should really be supporting Giuliani: Mack is a divorced, Roman Catholic (he is engaged to Mary Bono -- Sonny's widow, the Congresswoman from California).

[ItsTime]

We need a lot more TV ads in NH. Please email your pacs to start campaigns for TV ads for NH.


I really hope the freestate project and other activists can deliver NH for Ron!

[ConstitutionGal]

I can't freakin' believe this nonsense:

1. The Ghoul good on taxes;
2. Thomspon believes in state's rights;
3. Romney for Christians;

Gve me a break!!

On a lighter note: did the commercial a few minutes play nation-wide: "This program brought to you by Waste Management"?......I'm STILL laughing about this and hoping that someone got it recorded......this would be a GREAT lead-in for YouTube videos of the liars!!!

[angelatc]

Advertisers: One a Day mens. Sudafed PE. American Airlines. Mass Mutual. Branson.

[ConstitutionGal]

Connie Mack should really be supporting Giuliani: Mack is a divorced, Roman Catholic (he is engaged to Mary Bono -- Sonny's widow, the Congresswoman from California).
This surpries me because Sonny wasn't anybody's fool and turned out to be a real conservative.

[max]

Zionist Bill Kristol is talking ...son of Irving Kristol...the founding father of neo-conservatism

[Chrispy]

WOHOOOOO they have another text poll for the debate.

[angelatc]

I gotta tell you though, the "only 74 days left" thing really hit home with me. We desperately need to spend money on Ron Paul, so he can spend money on his campaign. Time is running out. Seriously.

[mwkaufman]

If Huckabee is for real... when is he going to raise his second million?

[Hook]

Zionist Bill Kristol is talking ...son of Irving Kristol...the founding father of neo-conservatism

I would say that Bill Kristol tends more towards Asshole than Zionist. :D

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

"5 top candidates."

That's good. 5 guys to split the neocon vote. No, the polls aren't "rigged," but we do have newbies and independents who are flying under the political radar. That's going to matter.

[ConstitutionGal]

If Huckabee is for real... when is he going to raise his second million?
Them yakking about his mil is really starting to grate on my last nerve.....where's the mention of Dr. Paul's FIVE MIL? I'm really beginning to like the Nov 5th money bomb idea....let's watch them try and ignore a cool 10 Mil in ONE DAY!!!

MORONS!!

[LibertyEagle]

I would say that Bill Kristol tends more towards Asshole than Zionist. :D

He's a MAJOR neocon. Don't forget that it was his father, Irving Kristol, who coined the term.

[Spike Kojima]

Huck dont need money , he has free advertising on Fox news.

[LibertyEagle]

I gotta tell you though, the "only 74 days left" thing really hit home with me. We desperately need to spend money on Ron Paul, so he can spend money on his campaign. Time is running out. Seriously.

No kidding and the donations today are horrible, thus far. :(

[BillyDkid]

Mitt Romney: Credibility is his strength! :confused:Yes!!! I almost puked when I heard that! I couldn't believe it. Black is white and up is down. How do you deal with this kind of stupidity/dishonesty. It just makes me so sick. It makes me want to give even more to the RP campaign. What they don't realize is the more they try to marginalize or belittle RP, the more it makes guys/gals like me want to give even more money to the campaign.

[werdd]

hope ron paul gets more than 2 minutes

[BillyDkid]

I'm actually here in the Press Filing Center at the Presedency IV debate.

Because of our new, paleo-conservative newspaper, The Liberty Sentinel (http://www.libertysentinel.org), we got press credentials for both days. :-D

I've got lots of footage of what's been going on these past few days, including us questioning McCain and Hunter, and all the RP support at Paullapalooza (the rally in downtown Orlando)

They'll be giving us access to the candidates to photograph them before the debate.

We've also got a commitment to a one-on-one interview with Paul after the debate. :-DAre there many RP supporters there? God, I hope so.

[LibertyEagle]

We need a lot more TV ads in NH. Please email your pacs to start campaigns for TV ads for NH.

Let Skiingff know your thoughts on this and then all of us are going to have to fund it.

[slantedview]

hope ron paul gets more than 2 minutes
That's unfair of you. Fox treated him much better last time. He got all of 3 minutes!

[MsDoodahs]

Have they even mentioned Dr. Paul yet?

[angelatc]

Marathon (probably not a lot of support there...:) )

feedthepig.org, boosterseat.gov, American Himalayan Foundation, whatadifference.org

Damn - that was like the "taxpayer funded crap" set of commercials.

[Nash]

Uttering "Ron Paul" on fox news is apparently an FCC violation. Mitt Romney is "fascinating" and the candidate of less government, less taxes and more freedom. My God these people are all synchophants.

[angelatc]

Have they even mentioned Dr. Paul yet?

Nope...

[Original_Intent]

someone in the focus group just called them "war mongering Nazis ?!?!?!

[paulitics]

damn, RPs applause was weak.

[slantedview]

Representative Ron Paul of....... ?

[MsDoodahs]

Someone slap that fat bastard.

[LibertyEagle]

OMG!! Did you hear what that guy just said about Ron Paul? That guy called him "certifiably insane" and a number of the rest of the focus group nodded in agreement and smiled.

[angelatc]

"Ron Paul is certifiably insane." urgh.

[devil21]

If the introductions of the candidates in the background is any indicator, it will be the exact same podium configuration. So much for random.

Way to get one guy to say RP is insane in the Fox "focus group" right after he said he wanted a candidate who actually has a message and not 30 second soundbites. People really are stupid!

[silverhandorder]

OMG that group is full of morons! He says everything RP is for and then calls him insane!

[WCR]

Pollster group just called Ron Paul, insane.

[dmitchell]

someone in the focus group just called them "war mongering Nazis ?!?!?!
And then he called Ron Paul "certifiably insane."

[paulitics]

This audience is stacked Giuliani. It sounds like a hitler rally.

[I Am Weasel]

RON Paul is certifiably insane? That is the group of people FOX put together in a room? Them BASTARDS!

[Starks]

someone in the focus group just called them "war mongering Nazis ?!?!?!

Closet Ron Paul sympathizer.

[BillyDkid]

Them yakking about his mil is really starting to grate on my last nerve.....where's the mention of Dr. Paul's FIVE MIL? I'm really beginning to like the Nov 5th money bomb idea....let's watch them try and ignore a cool 10 Mil in ONE DAY!!!

MORONS!!Yes, I can not wait to send in my $100.00 on that day. God, I hope we have a lot of people. Supporters (not just us forum guys) need to know how important donating is. It is not enough to just want to vote for Ron Paul - without supporting him financially we wont even get the chance to vote for him.

[chewbacca]

Amazing, that group of undecideds are fucking morons.

[angelatc]

Someone slap that fat bastard.

Wasn't that the guy from the Morton Downey Jr show?!?

[frasu]

Huck dont need money , he has free advertising on Fox news.

Yeah... that is mind-boggling... and it looks like as he has more press going for him, he gets even more... hmm

[Tina]

Someone slap that fat bastard.

I wish I could:mad:

[ConstitutionGal]

someone in the focus group just called them "war mongering Nazis ?!?!?!
...and then that very same guy turned around and said Ron Paul was 'certifiably insane"!!!! WTF!??!!!

[ScotTX]

These republicans have lost their damn minds. They have no idea what they want or what a true conservative is.

[Shellshock1918]

Amazing, that group of undecideds are fucking morons.

Welcome to America.

[angelatc]

Thanks Alan!

[I Am Weasel]

Oh yeah, everybody wants to hear what FOX wants to talk about... foreign policy and war...

[TurtleBurger]

So much for an unbiased focus group.

[LibertyEagle]

Heck, from what they were saying, they are BEGGING for Ron Paul, but they think he's crazy.

[hells_unicorn]

To quote Brian from Family Guy:

"Undecided voters are the dumbest people in the country".

P.S. - The focus groups are stacked, period. This is exactly the kind of nonsense that Luntz pulled when he worked for CNN (or maybe it was MSNBC, I can't remember), these focus groups are meant to shape opinion, not measure it.

[twister5400]

Wasn't that the guy from the Morton Downey Jr show?!?

ahahahah!!!!
i think it was lol

[tsetsefly]

holy shit are these people stupid, I think I feel good that guy called ron paul insane, he is a tool...

[slantedview]

The online camera is zoomin in on Dr. Paul! kinda odd.

[ionlyknowy]

This is really really scary... I can't believe this BS. I wish everyone knew this...

[LibertyEagle]

That's not what they said, Sean!! They didn't ask for a "positive" message, at all.

[slantedview]

WTF? The online camera is ALL OVER Dr. Paul, insane closeup. It's like his personal camera.

[Trassin]

What position does RP have on the stage? I'm listening on Fox Radio.

[silverhandorder]

OMG those people represent America according to that fat ass? I have never been so mad during these debates! Actually this si the first debate where I am pissed off.

[LibertyEagle]

I think I'm going to be sick.

[Teflon Master]

Where's Keyes? He has the KEYES for victory, if you didn't know.

[alien]

The online camera is zoomin in on Dr. Paul! kinda odd.

Where is the link for this?

[OceanMachine7]

I have a very bad feeling about tonight...

[hells_unicorn]

lol Sean Hannity just had a Fruedian slip. "You'll find out in our post-GAME SHOW" :p Someone didn't take their meds today.

[james1844]

Frank Luntz is a total tool. He' got kicked out the polling association for being biased. That guy has no business being on the network news. Polls are supposed t be scientific and objective. Luntz is neither.

[paulitics]

me too, like literally. It just keeps getting worse in this country.

[specsaregood]

//

[slantedview]

Where is the link for this?

http://foxnews-foxstream.wm.llnwd.net/foxnews_foxstream

[ConstitutionGal]

I think I'm going to be sick.
Trade with ya! I think I'm likely to have a stroke if this nonsense doesn't let up!!:mad:

[MGreen]

This reminds me of the Daily Show piece in 2004, a few weeks before the election, when they talked with undecided voters. People can't be this stupid.

[hells_unicorn]

OMG those people represent America according to that fat ass? I have never been so mad during these debates! Actually this si the first debate where I am pissed off.

Use it for the text poll, I'm planning on laughing my ass off at Hannity's predictable reaction to another Ron Paul victory.

[EvilTwinkie]

Hopefully the text poll is legit like the last 2 and Paul sweeps it for a fox trifecta of common sense.

Cant wait to see Hannitys face at the end of the 3rd debate.

[rpfreedom08]

links to live feed?

[ConstitutionGal]

This reminds me of the Daily Show piece in 2004, a few weeks before the election, when they talked with undecided voters. People can't be this stupid.

Oh yes they can....Clinton x 2 .....Shrub x 2.....yep...they ARE that stupid!

[Cam]

Bet ya when Dr Paul wins the Poll. We spammed them again!

[silverhandorder]

I love Colmes!

[Shellshock1918]

Alan just defended Paul...good for him

[freelance]

They steal his platform and then call him certifiably insane. How very interesting that this came out of a FOX focus group.

[devil21]

Lets Get Ready To Rumble!!!

[hells_unicorn]

Thank you Alan Colmes!! At least someone had the good sense to correct that fat asshat in that bull shit focus group.

[angelatc]

Ugh. Here we go. I have a bad feeling.

[dt_]

ok it's starting

GOOD LUCK RON!!

[Trassin]

Wow, 1 positive thing about Ron Paul in 2 hours.

Someone please tell me where RP is on the stage, I'm listening to the debate on the radio.

[I Am Weasel]

who else thinks that FOX is gonna do something "special" to take care of Ron Paul having another land slide victory in the winning of the poll?

[twister5400]

thank you alan colmes... dont usually agree with him, but i can agree with that last statement

[twister5400]

go ron paul!!!!!!!!

[Vvick727]

sweet, colmes defended dr. paul.

too bad he lumped his defense in with hilary's

[mwkaufman]

How do the Republicans claim Lincoln again?

Edit: Wow at this audience.

[angelatc]

Hey! My husband knows Crist. I did not know that.

[Shellshock1918]

Oh boy, sounds like a neo-con crowd

[dt_]

LOL at Mitt Romney's hair

[TruckinMike]

We need to reach the folks outside of US.... MORE signs

More signs like this...we need 60,000 4x8 signs hanging in trees like these!!! Thats one per meet up member!!! And we need to do it NOW! TIME is running out!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2167/1677945850_6fd6eff2fb.jpg

[kylejack]

Mitt's hair is terrible! How is this possible?

[Trassin]

Is RP 2nd in on the left? I'm listening on the radio.

[alien]

http://foxnews-foxstream.wm.llnwd.net/foxnews_foxstream

thanks

[ionlyknowy]

Mccain winked!