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Kludge
12-07-2010, 08:18 PM
"Well, it looks like we can add Visa to the list of companies pressured into no longer working with Wikileaks, following a similar move by MasterCard. At least, unlike MasterCard, Visa isn't already claiming that Wikileaks was convicted of a crime. Instead, it's just said that it's suspended any work with Wikileaks "pending further investigation into the nature of its business and whether it contravenes Visa operating rules."

As Charles Arthur points out, the Ku Klux Klan's website points you to a site that takes both MasterCard and Visa -- suggesting the pure arbitrariness of both credit card companies' decision here. It's a bad idea when firms start making decisions for political reasons. There are all sorts of companies out there that take credit cards to support objectionable (to many) activities. Is it really the credit card companies' job to pick and choose who they find objectionable to work with -- and if so, what basis does it use for saying "KKK is okay, but Wikileaks is not"?

This reinforces the point we recently made about the role of corporate intermediaries in being able to aid governments in censorship, even in the absence of a trial or conviction. Either way, this is a really sad statement about both Visa and MasterCard and their willingness to cave to government pressure."

Article by Mike Masnick of Techdirt.
Original Article Link: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101207/09264812164/visa-mastercard-kkk-is-a-ok-wikileaks-is-wicked.shtml

oyarde
12-07-2010, 08:21 PM
"Well, it looks like we can add Visa to the list of companies pressured into no longer working with Wikileaks, following a similar move by MasterCard. At least, unlike MasterCard, Visa isn't already claiming that Wikileaks was convicted of a crime. Instead, it's just said that it's suspended any work with Wikileaks "pending further investigation into the nature of its business and whether it contravenes Visa operating rules."

As Charles Arthur points out, the Ku Klux Klan's website points you to a site that takes both MasterCard and Visa -- suggesting the pure arbitrariness of both credit card companies' decision here. It's a bad idea when firms start making decisions for political reasons. There are all sorts of companies out there that take credit cards to support objectionable (to many) activities. Is it really the credit card companies' job to pick and choose who they find objectionable to work with -- and if so, what basis does it use for saying "KKK is okay, but Wikileaks is not"?

This reinforces the point we recently made about the role of corporate intermediaries in being able to aid governments in censorship, even in the absence of a trial or conviction. Either way, this is a really sad statement about both Visa and MasterCard and their willingness to cave to government pressure."

Article by Mike Masnick of Techdirt.
Original Article Link: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101207/09264812164/visa-mastercard-kkk-is-a-ok-wikileaks-is-wicked.shtml

What is the Klan selling that they need to take credit ?

awake
12-07-2010, 08:23 PM
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." -H. Kissinger

This is the mindset.

oyarde
12-07-2010, 08:27 PM
I remember that quote .

HOLLYWOOD
12-07-2010, 08:35 PM
Remember who made VISA and MASTER CARD BANKS... the Federal Government and that gave an easy money bailout and then even bigger profits for the credit companies. Master Card and VISA are reciprocating the fascist-corporatism of America.

I'm wondering what other controversial groups, organizations, etc that use VISA, Master Card, and PayPal for the money systems?

Check this out, use your VISA/MASTER CARD: Please Use PayPal to donate to the Communist Party of America https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=MXZdShJ76mf5bahKknSj95rvwnGXn8wu8kuIMFzfaP-1HIaBWcebkOGYRYS&dispatch=50a222a57771920b6a3d7b606239e4d529b525e0b 7e69bf0224adecfb0124e9b61f737ba21b08198ad5733caaf9 44cbac24b2728ea935a7c

Draco33
12-07-2010, 09:40 PM
What is the Klan selling that they need to take credit ?

Hats? .. :p

farrar
12-07-2010, 09:49 PM
What is the Klan selling that they need to take credit ?

Strange fruit. Get them while they are nice and fresh...:eek:

Mach
12-07-2010, 09:53 PM
It's good thing he's in jail now, if he wasn't he probably would have had his gas, electric, water and heat deny him service.

This kind of stuff is a good real life tutorial as far as, how dey vill take car ov yoo. :eek:

Rael
12-07-2010, 10:22 PM
What is the Klan selling that they need to take credit ?

Nooses, chains, whips, sheets, wood, gasoline.

james1906
12-07-2010, 10:27 PM
Are they taking Discover? Discover's just happy anyone takes their card.