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FrankRep
12-05-2010, 01:16 AM
The 9/11 of American Diplomacy (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=40356)


Patrick J. Buchanan | Human Events (http://www.humanevents.com/)
Dec 3, 2010


Not since Leon Trotsky began publishing the secrets of the Romanov archives in 1918 has there been a more devastating leak of diplomatic documents than this week's WikiLeaks dump.

The Romanov files contained the secret treaties the imperial Allies had signed to carve up the Hohenzollern, Habsburg and Ottoman empires after a war fought "to make the world safe for democracy."

It was to counter cynicism after revelation of these "secret treaties" that Woodrow Wilson called for "open covenants, openly arrived at."

In 1898, a leaked document inflamed America and infuriated President McKinley, who had not wanted to go to war with Spain.

The Spanish minister in Washington, Enrique Dupuy De Lome, had written an indiscreet letter that was stolen by a sympathizer of the Cuban revolution and leaked to William Randolph Hearst's warmongering New York Journal. In the De Lome letter, the minister had said of McKinley that he is "weak, and a bidder for the admiration of the crowd, besides being a ... politician who tries to leave a door open behind himself while keeping on good terms with the jingoes of his party."

Six days later, the battleship Maine blew up in Havana harbor. Hearst's Journal screamed Spanish "treachery." And the war was on.

On Jan. 16, 1917, the German Foreign Secretary Zimmermann had cabled his envoy in Mexico City to convey an offer. If Mexico would join Germany in a war against the United States, Mexico's reward would be Texas, New Mexico and Arizona.

Written in code, the Zimmermann telegram was intercepted and deciphered by the British, who happily turned it over to the Americans.

The U.S. reaction was even more explosive than it had been to news that Germany had declared open season for U-boats on all ships carrying cargo to Allied ports, including American ships.

Within weeks, America was at war with Germany.

The WikiLeaks dump comes in an age where diplomatic insults are common. Hence, nothing so dramatic as war is likely to result.

Still, this is a diplomatic disaster of the first order.

For what it reveals is that the world's last superpower cannot be trusted with diplomatic confidences or secrets. Try to help the Americans, and what you tell them may wind up on page one of their tabloid press.

From what has spilled out already, the Iranians know exactly who in the Arab world is goading us to attack their country.

That list includes Persian Gulf sheiks, the king of Saudi Arabia and young Prime Minister Saad Hariri of Lebanon, whose father, former Prime Minister Rafic Hariri, was assassinated five years ago, allegedly by Hezobollah, Iran's ally.

All these Arab friends of America, especially Hariri, have now been put at risk of reprisal and possible assassination. Our diplomats in whom those rulers put their trust have been compromised.

The press has not yet revealed our confidential sources, but foreign intelligence agencies by now have the unedited documents and can figure out who is talking to the Americans and who is not a friend.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai, a prickly ally, but one on whom we have to depend in a war that has cost 1,400 American lives, now has confirmation of what we think of him. If he is thinking of cutting a deal at America's expense, who can blame him?

Secretary of State Clinton, who has made a favorable impression on foreign leaders, comes off as mildly paranoid with her instructions to have U.S. diplomats spy on and steal credit card numbers of allied diplomats at the United Nations.

Because of these leaks, many U.S. diplomats, who were candid about leaders in the capitals where they represent our country, will see their usefulness diminished or destroyed.

As these documents have apparently come out of Pentagon files, what does that tell us about the U.S. military's ability to keep a secret? Are U.S. battle and war plans also unprotected?

How is it that, thus far, only PFC Bradley Manning has been apprehended?

Who vetted Manning? Is it possible one 22-year-old with a computer and disks can get access to, download and transfer to anti-Americans the entire correspondence of the Department of State with U.S. embassies?

Some 250,000 documents -- thousands classified as confidential, secret and "no foreign" distribution -- were thieved.

Who was in charge of securing those secrets? Why have heads not rolled? What has happened to the idea of accountability?

A few years ago, a leak of the name of a single CIA analyst, Valerie Plame, had the national press in an uproar, with a grand jury impaneled and a special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, named to investigate the leak right up to and into the Oval Office, if necessary.

Vice President Cheney's aide, Scooter Libby, was prosecuted for lying about the leak. Karl Rove was hauled repeatedly before a grand jury.

Why is the Obama White House getting a pass when this national humiliation and diplomatic Pearl Harbor occurred on its watch?


SOURCE:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=40356

Lovecraftian4Paul
12-05-2010, 01:37 AM
I have to disagree with Buchanan on this one. Why are so many commentators upset and trying to whip the general public into a frenzy against Wikileaks? Okay, I know why. But people like Pat Buchanan should know better.

If the Wikileaks dump helps bring an end to a foreign policy Buchanan and many others disagree with, its should be welcomed, not condemned. Only in today's demented culture could there be a furor over revealing crimes, and not about the crimes themselves.

FrankRep
12-05-2010, 01:54 AM
Pat Buchanan gave a reasonable response I believe. Other countries will no longer be able to trust the United States. Private conversations will be exposed to the world.

Dripping Rain
12-05-2010, 02:37 AM
Im glad PJB is channeling my exact thoughts on this issue. Exactly All what ive written or said on the forum. funny I find it that this occurred the same week the FED released its soft-audit/bailout info
Took the sails out of any public outrage at bailing out mcd's Harley Davidson, The Republic of South Korea etc...
who feels me on this? that this WL fiasco is nothing more than an amazing distraction from the FED and other things


A few years ago, a leak of the name of a single CIA analyst, Valerie Plame, had the national press in an uproar, with a grand jury impaneled and a special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, named to investigate the leak right up to and into the Oval Office, if necessary.

Vice President Cheney's aide, Scooter Libby, was prosecuted for lying about the leak. Karl Rove was hauled repeatedly before a grand jury.

Why is the Obama White House getting a pass when this national humiliation and diplomatic Pearl Harbor occurred on its watch?

what says

CUnknown
12-05-2010, 03:04 AM
I hope that one day we have a federal government so small and transparent that it would have almost nothing it would care to keep hidden. Wikileaks is on the front lines here, this isn't a distraction. The Fed is the most secret organization of them all, true, and I hope that one day it gets the same treatment from Wikileaks that the State Department is getting now.

Would Wikileaks be a distraction then? This is serious stuff. I think anyone who believes in small government should be thanking Wikileaks right now.

Austrian Econ Disciple
12-05-2010, 04:56 AM
Only Big-Gubermint needs 'secrets'. Ask yourself why are you supporting State-secrets that are the direct response of Big-Government? Everyone here should be damn thankful for WikiLeaks. PJB is of course wrong again here. Since when did our allies, and those of us who we routinely covertly kill, maim, and topple have any sort of 'faith' or 'trust' in us? Even PJB doesn't understand blowback. Good grief PJB. Besides, we have to think of our adversaries and 'allies' as incompetent fools to think they don't know anything that we do.

Is there an 'ally' we haven't fucked over yet? Soviet Union, Mujahadeen, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, China, etc. etc. Oh I forgot -- not Israel. ::rollseyes::

rprprs
12-05-2010, 07:15 AM
I have to disagree with Buchanan on this one. Why are so many commentators upset and trying to whip the general public into a frenzy against Wikileaks? Okay, I know why. But people like Pat Buchanan should know better.

If the Wikileaks dump helps bring an end to a foreign policy Buchanan and many others disagree with, its should be welcomed, not condemned. Only in today's demented culture could there be a furor over revealing crimes, and not about the crimes themselves.

Disappointed in Pat here and will readily agree that he is on the wrong track with this article. However, in fairness, I don't see that this piece is, in any way, a malignment of Wikileaks. Pat's ire here is directed towards the goverment's (read, Obama administration's) incompetence in maintaining confidentiallity. It's a cheap shot, but it's not a vilification of Wikileaks. We'll see how he addresses that elsewhere.

UPDATE: OK, Just saw Buchanan on the McLaughlin Group, and he did indeed cross that line. Very disappointing.

Lovecraftian4Paul
12-05-2010, 12:20 PM
Yeah, Buchanan is sinking on this issue. But then, he always was a Paleo-Con and not a libertarian. I still consider him an ally, since he's heads and shoulders above other commentators on most issues.

lester1/2jr
12-05-2010, 12:22 PM
Other countries will no longer be able to trust the United States. Private conversations will be exposed to the world.

GOOD.

yeah Pat phoned it in on this on Mcglaughlin group this week

Fozz
12-05-2010, 12:47 PM
I agree with Pat, and I expect a similar position from Rand.

sailingaway
12-05-2010, 01:15 PM
I think someone who violated a duty of confidentiality is responsible for the consequences -- but that isn't wikileaks. I think this is a wake up call to ALL about how little privacy govt databases have -- and why they shouldn't have citizen private data in databases, when it hasn't been consented to.

And yeah, they should clean up their act.

Having said that, this is more like a national enquirer dump from what I've seen than like exposing a CIA agent and destroying her cover so she might be killed.

lester1/2jr
12-05-2010, 01:30 PM
also wikileaks owns up to it. cheney and libby are cowards and maintain it was some sort of mistake.

thorin
12-05-2010, 01:55 PM
Once again, the unblemish truth from Buchanan.

Governments need to keep secrets only from their enemies. And the US apparently has a lot of enemies (including much of the American people).

I didn't see anything that would negatively impact the American people. This is all about exposing corrupt goopermint officials.

UtahApocalypse
12-05-2010, 02:03 PM
I think someone who violated a duty of confidentiality is responsible for the consequences -- but that isn't wikileaks. I think this is a wake up call to ALL about how little privacy govt databases have -- and why they shouldn't have citizen private data in databases, when it hasn't been consented to.

And yeah, they should clean up their act.

Having said that, this is more like a national enquirer dump from what I've seen than like exposing a CIA agent and destroying her cover so she might be killed.



^^^ This is a EPIC point that has not been brought into the light at all !!

forsmant
12-05-2010, 03:21 PM
I like my privacy.

LibForestPaul
12-05-2010, 06:51 PM
I think someone who violated a duty of confidentiality is responsible for the consequences -- but that isn't wikileaks. I think this is a wake up call to ALL about how little privacy govt databases have -- and why they shouldn't have citizen private data in databases, when it hasn't been consented to.

And yeah, they should clean up their act.

Having said that, this is more like a national enquirer dump from what I've seen than like exposing a CIA agent and destroying her cover so she might be killed.

Which takes precedence, ones duty of confidentiality to the government in dc, or ones solemn duty to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?