CNN Analysts say that RP is a "Nut" and "Martian" for defending WikiLeaks

[Epic]

YouTube - Ron Paul Maligned by CNN Analysts re Wikileaks (call him "Nut" and "Martian") (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV_Q8WFB9Bw)

[Epic]

Even the Leftist Roland Martin couldn't be bothered to stick up for Ron Paul.

[Agorism]

That Redstate's Erick Erickson. He just said he changed his phone number to avoid paul supporters..

btw- treason? He's not even a US citizen.

[TheDriver]

He's a nut because he doesn't agree with them. :rolleyes:

[MRoCkEd]

Thanks for reminding me what kind of person you are, Erick. For a second there, I was starting to like you.

Screw these guys...

[speciallyblend]

Screw these guys...

more evidence that this country is screwed/f'ed up...The CNN Analysts are the real nuts!!

[Agorism]

When does Erickson get transferred to Fox News?

[TheDriver]

Thanks for reminding me what kind of person you are, Erick. For a second there, I was starting to like you.

Honestly, events like this (and the middle class tax vote) separate the pretenders - partisan hacks like Erick - from the champions (people like Ron Paul).

[CheezItsRule]

It seemed as if John King wanted nothing to do with conversation! LOL!

He hightailed it outta there...probably, to change his phone number & email address. HAHA!

[Jordan]

"I've already changed my phone number once because of Ron Paul supporters"

ROFL

[robertwerden]

Oh no, the 8 people who watch CNN still might not like RP now.

[Heimdallr]

/barf

[RileyE104]

Did anyone care to email the other guy that said he would reply back??

[pcosmar]

The propaganda outlets are united on this.

What does that tell you?
;)

[Dr.3D]

"A healthy discussion in our democracy."

Sigh.....

[sailingaway]

Martian?

What kindergarten yard did these folks stray off of?

Not watching, however, I'm sorry to hear that about Ericksson. I was hoping he was actually analyzing things for himself, at this point.

I also thought the GOP was more interested in keeping the party together through 2012 than this.

[TheDriver]

"A healthy discussion in our democracy."

Sigh.....

That's a sobering way to put it, thanks! :o
:D

[HOLLYWOOD]

CNN Roland martin is an Asshat... always has been, and like all the other Paid Puppet Pundits will do anything for that next paycheck. SO more of the CNN BS entertainment where you have a "So-Called" neutral host... and two anti issue pundit hacks with no one to refute. This is how they create their biased attacks to social engineer the American Sheeple.

BTW, Roland Martin made an ASS out of himself in that Barry Birth Certificate exchange with Rep. Ted Poe on Lou Dobb's show. Martin is just another idiot that talks faster than he thinks... but remember it's Corporate Main Stream Media and if you want to advance... you sell your soul to the establishment government. Just another Political Media Whore.

His Crappy Website. Hmm, I wonder if the Pro freedom hackers have visited?

hxxp://www.rolandsmartin.com/page/contact.cfm

hxxp://edition.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/martin.roland.html
E-mail
roland@rolandsmartin.com (roland@rolandsmartin.com)
Mailing Address
Signature Media Group
1327 W. Washington, Suite 2H
Chicago, Ill. 60607
(312) 226-5552, main

he also propagandist in this news Paper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Defender

[Liberty4life]

Its quite funny to watch these people run around and try to figure out what side they are on in regards to this stuff.

But maybe Ron is getting it right, this stuff does need to be exposed, the people doing this stuff have been getting away with murder for no one knows how long,

It's for sure got the media confused on what to do, but I wonder what news isn't
being covered.

[sailingaway]

OK, I finally watched it. It seems they had taken a stance before he gave them that info, but I am really disappointed in Erick. I really did think better of him.

Oh well.
But that CNN guy has really poor analysis skills. He says 'so those on the intelligence committee should publish what they know? Come on, Congressman....' but Ron isn't saying that at all. If you take on a duty you need to follow the duty and only something truly extraordinary can overcome that (like learning someone was committing treason or something). But Wikileaks just got the info first, as NY Times published it etc. The private is a different story and I don't know the facts of that case, but I do know when I have information in a confidential matter, I would consider it wrong to give out just to embarrass people. Unfortunately, that level of nonsense is all I see in Wikileaks, which to me may mean the guy has no defense. You don't hand out even corporate emails when you have internal access, just because people there are dorks. YOU are supposed to have better ethics.

But that goes to the private, not to Wikileaks.

[Cowlesy]

It's the cool kids club. The pundits don't want to be left out to face the heap of scorn that's been generated anytime anyone doesn't toe the line. Ron Paul has never been part of the cool kids club. He's uncontainable and makes himself an easy target. Best part is, he doesn't care.

By the way, do you notice all the gov't alerts going out to anyone who might consider a job with leviathan? Don't post any wiki stuff, don't comment on Assange, don't do anything that might threaten your chances (by way of showing you couldn't keep a secret) regardless of the fact this stuff has now proliferated worldwide.

Besides the fact we stomp around the globe with our military, is it any surprise, given these cables, that the rest of the world hates us? We could stay above the fray. We might not have all the useful intelligence, but we'd have our honour, and we could say that with a straight face while everyone else lurks in the shadows. Way to setup a shining example, fedgov, for the rest of the world.

We skulk around in the shadows, subverting, spying. I am sure the founding generation would be oh so proud. Whatever happened to tradition and honour?

Disgusting.

[Feeding the Abscess]

OK, I finally watched it. It seems they had taken a stance before he gave them that info, but I am really disappointed in Erick. I really did think better of him.

Oh well.
But that CNN guy has really poor analysis skills. He says 'so those on the intelligence committee should publish what they know? Come on, Congressman....' but Ron isn't saying that at all. If you take on a duty you need to follow the duty and only something truly extraordinary can overcome that (like learning someone was committing treason or something). But Wikileaks just got the info first, as NY Times published it etc. The private is a different story and I don't know the facts of that case, but I do know when I have information in a confidential matter, I would consider it wrong to give out just to embarrass people. Unfortunately, that level of nonsense is all I see in Wikileaks, which to me may mean the guy has no defense. You don't hand out even corporate emails when you have internal access, just because people there are dorks. YOU are supposed to have better ethics.

But that goes to the private, not to Wikileaks.

Ron isn't even hard on Bradley Manning - he described his actions as "civil disobedience".

Balls of steel

[sailingaway]

Ron isn't even hard on Bradley Manning - he described his actions as "civil disobedience".

Balls of steel

Well, I may end up disagreeing with him there, depending on what the facts turn out to be, if he is saying it is justified. I see civil disobedience as refusing to comply with something essentially malum prohibitum (wrong only because it has been made illegal) not malum in se (wrong because it is morally wrong) and I do think it is morally wrong to betray a confidence when you are given info confidentially. However, as I say, there are extreme circumstances which can justify it, I just don't see them here.

Wikileaks, though, is just publishing stuff someone leaked, and journalists do that all the time, calling it a 'scoop'. I don't see anything putting the troops in harm's way, or anything like that....

But to be honest, I'm not combing through the stuff myself, and don't have detailed knowledge of everything that is in there.

[vita3]

Who really cares what CNN broadcasts?

[Feeding the Abscess]

Well, I may end up disagreeing with him there, depending on what the facts turn out to be, if he is saying it is justified. I see civil disobedience as refusing to comply with something essentially malum prohibitum (wrong only because it has been made illegal) not malum in se (wrong because it is morally wrong) and I do think it is morally wrong to betray a confidence when you are given info confidentially. However, as I say, there are extreme circumstances which can justify it, I just don't see them here.

Wikileaks, though, is just publishing stuff someone leaked, and journalists do that all the time, calling it a 'scoop'. I don't see anything putting the troops in harm's way, or anything like that....

But to be honest, I'm not combing through the stuff myself, and don't have detailed knowledge of everything that is in there.

It is a soldier's duty to protect the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic.

If the government is acting against the interest of the citizenry of its country, it's the soldier's duty to fight it.

There's already been some good stuff revealed in the 700 or so cables released to the public. There are over 249,000 yet to have been opened to the public. Count me in the Manning defender camp.

[CableNewsJunkie]

Bill Kristol told his followers to put their heads in the sand, so that's what Erick Erickson has done.

h ttp://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/never-complain-never-explain_519707.html

Why does anyone still listen to this guy?

[silentshout]

Fuck CNN. Sorry for the language, i don't usually do that :)

[JK/SEA]

In 6 months these flouride compromised brain farts will be using Ron Pauls talking points on this issue.

[Anti Federalist]

Erik Erickson, Mark Levin, Beck, Shamity, Malkin, Coulter, and all the rest...

Some here, after watching some of these people tepidly support Rand, seemed to somehow think that these people "are coming around", they "have seen the light" and "are on our side now".

They are not, and never will.

They are our philosophical and political enemies, even more dangerous than the "left" in that that they are more than happy to make "small government" noises from time to time, but when the rubber meets the road, they are nothing but "right" versions of big government statists.

[pcosmar]

They are our philosophical and political enemies, even more dangerous than the "left" in that that they are more than happy to make "small government" noises from time to time, but when the rubber meets the road, they are nothing but "right" versions of big government statists.

And their even more dangerous when they are pretending to be friends.

[TNforPaul45]

Why do I get the same, creepy Karl Rove feel when I look at and hear Erik Erickson talk? Smiling, bloated, pustuled vapid brain who can only resort to sophomoric insults to prove his points.

"Iraq had WMD. How do I know? Because you're a doody-head."

I know someone personally who makes it their life goal to imitate these two Egg Sacs.

Sickening.

[Heimdallr]

Erik Erickson, Mark Levin, Beck, Shamity, Malkin, Coulter, and all the rest...

Some here, after watching some of these people tepidly support Rand, seemed to somehow think that these people "are coming around", they "have seen the light" and "are on our side now".

They are not, and never will.

They are our philosophical and political enemies, even more dangerous than the "left" in that that they are more than happy to make "small government" noises from time to time, but when the rubber meets the road, they are nothing but "right" versions of big government statists.

+1

Don't fool yourselves. Never, ever fool yourselves. We're still the few against the many.

[sailingaway]

Why do I get the same, creepy Karl Rove feel when I look at and hear Erik Erickson talk? Smiling, bloated, pustuled vapid brain who can only resort to sophomoric insults to prove his points.

"Iraq had WMD. How do I know? Because you're a doody-head."

I know someone personally who makes it their life goal to imitate these two Egg Sacs.

Sickening.

He stood up for Rand after the Maddow interview, even though he looked sick over it.

I saw something about how libertarians are 'all over the place' describing how some say the views are part left and part right (instead of analyzing by pro individual liberty with right and left being irrelevant.)

He is a product of the left / right paradigm. I still hope he'll think things through.

I may be more charitable because I do remember when I didn't think things through, but accepted things as they were because that is how things work. Period. I also assumed our government was following the Constitution because that is what we were paying them for.

I think Erick at least doesn't believe the second of those points, any more.

[freshjiva]

CNN Roland martin is an Asshat... always has been, and like all the other Paid Puppet Pundits will do anything for that next paycheck. SO more of the CNN BS entertainment where you have a "So-Called" neutral host... and two anti issue pundit hacks with no one to refute. This is how they create their biased attacks to social engineer the American Sheeple.

BTW, Roland Martin made an ASS out of himself in that Barry Birth Certificate exchange with Rep. Ted Poe on Lou Dobb's show. Martin is just another idiot that talks faster than he thinks... but remember it's Corporate Main Stream Media and if you want to advance... you sell your soul to the establishment government. Just another Political Media Whore.

His Crappy Website. Hmm, I wonder if the Pro freedom hackers have visited?

hxxp://www.rolandsmartin.com/page/contact.cfm

hxxp://edition.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/martin.roland.html
E-mail
roland@rolandsmartin.com (roland@rolandsmartin.com)
Mailing Address
Signature Media Group
1327 W. Washington, Suite 2H
Chicago, Ill. 60607
(312) 226-5552, main

he also propagandist in this news Paper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Defender


Thanks hollywood. Just sent him an email. I shall be waiting for a response, as he promised he'll email back in that segment.

[Anti Federalist]

We skulk around in the shadows, subverting, spying. I am sure the founding generation would be oh so proud. Whatever happened to tradition and honour?



Sold off to the highest media bidder, years ago, in a hostile takeover.

Homogenized, corporatized, sanitized, then sold off, bit by bit, until nothing remained but an empty building.

They got our sense of decency and conscience in the bargain as well.

:mad:

[RonPaulFanInGA]

He is a product of the left / right paradigm.

Ding, ding, ding.

Many of these people are just that. They have no principles outside of seeing as many Republicans win as they can. If Ron Paul won the Republican nomination for President, I truly think Mark Levin would end up being a supporter.

[TNforPaul45]

He stood up for Rand after the Maddow interview, even though he looked sick over it.

I saw something about how libertarians are 'all over the place' describing how some say the views are part left and part right (instead of analyzing by pro individual liberty with right and left being irrelevant.)

He is a product of the left / right paradigm. I still hope he'll think things through.

I may be more charitable because I do remember when I didn't think things through, but accepted things as they were because that is how things work. Period. I also assumed our government was following the Constitution because that is what we were paying them for.

I think Erick at least doesn't believe the second of those points, any more.

I agree.

On the product of the Left / Right paradigm, i especially agree. I responded to a post on facebook the other day by someone who is an avid Obama lover. It is almost like arguing with a robot now (Even if they are a big republican too, either way). You, the person who can think, vs someone who is following programming, and hears your responses, which do not fit into their structured response script, so they default to personal insults and a smirky little smile. It reminds me of the deer in headlights reaction.

You feel sorry for them, keep trying talk reasonably to them, but their age goes from 26 to 6 very quickly. Also, since they cannot respond directly to your argument, they will just bring up another subject, act as if THAT was what you said, and then proceed to tell you how wrong you were about it (even though you said nothing of the sort).

A big Huckabee-like republican (Neoconservatism with a causal basis in fundamental modern christianity) finally had no rebuffs to my arguments about 9/11, Iraq, the federal reserve, and the evil of the bushes, and they ended the conversation with "Well it's just what I believe, and that's not going to ever change." Which is equating the reason for their neoconservatism with the reason for their religion: Faith.

Sigh.

[Brian4Liberty]

Barack H. Obama, 21 Jan, 2009.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/01/remarks_by_the_president_welcoming_senior_staff_an .php

For a long time now, there's been too much secrecy in this city. The old rules said that if there was a defensible argument for not disclosing something to the American people, then it should not be disclosed. That era is now over. Starting today, every agency and department should know that this administration stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information but those who seek to make it known.

And do they say that Obama is a "nut" and a "martian" for that speech?

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I await my reply from Roland Martin.

[Vessol]

I await my reply from Roland Martin.

^^

[TheeJoeGlass]

Erik Erickson, Mark Levin, Beck, Shamity, Malkin, Coulter, and all the rest...

Some here, after watching some of these people tepidly support Rand, seemed to somehow think that these people "are coming around", they "have seen the light" and "are on our side now".

They are not, and never will.

They are our philosophical and political enemies, even more dangerous than the "left" in that that they are more than happy to make "small government" noises from time to time, but when the rubber meets the road, they are nothing but "right" versions of big government statists.

I concur.

[Bruno]

That Redstate's Erick Erickson. He just said he changed his phone number to avoid paul supporters..

btw- treason? He's not even a US citizen.

Is anyone in the media even capable of thinking anymore?

[Anti Federalist]

Is anyone in the media even capable of thinking anymore?

Not about thinking at all.

Just about spreading the government line.

They do their job well, you'd think they were serious, wouldn't you?

[FrankRep]

"A healthy discussion in our democracy."

Sigh.....

"Democracy is the road to socialism."
- Karl Marx

[militant]

Oh no, the 8 people who watch CNN still might not like RP now.

Or like him even less! :eek:

[Dr.3D]

"Democracy is the road to socialism."
- Karl Marx
I was quoting the last line of that video.

[ClayTrainor]

Erik Erickson, Mark Levin, Beck, Shamity, Malkin, Coulter, and all the rest...

Some here, after watching some of these people tepidly support Rand, seemed to somehow think that these people "are coming around", they "have seen the light" and "are on our side now".

They are not, and never will.

They are our philosophical and political enemies, even more dangerous than the "left" in that that they are more than happy to make "small government" noises from time to time, but when the rubber meets the road, they are nothing but "right" versions of big government statists.

+100000

I'd rep ya for this one if i could, but i'm all out of ammo.

[Anti Federalist]

Totally off topic, but...

Ron Paul Forum Google adbot FAIL

http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=COq7qvPsxIzKpQEQyAEYvQEyCJEkhtiznsna

[Legend1104]

Just emailed him. I am really curious to find out how many (if any) receive a response from him.

[sailingaway]

Just emailed him. I am really curious to find out how many (if any) receive a response from him.

He responded on twitter that he was getting hate mail from us for what he said and saying how hilarious it is. I don't think he really plans to answer.



Totally off topic, but...

Ron Paul Forum Google adbot FAIL

http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=COq7qvPsxIzKpQEQyAEYvQEyCJEkhtiznsna

That is hilarious.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Erik Erickson, Mark Levin, Beck, Shamity, Malkin, Coulter, and all the rest...

Some here, after watching some of these people tepidly support Rand, seemed to somehow think that these people "are coming around", they "have seen the light" and "are on our side now".

They are not, and never will.

They are our philosophical and political enemies, even more dangerous than the "left" in that that they are more than happy to make "small government" noises from time to time, but when the rubber meets the road, they are nothing but "right" versions of big government statists.

Yeap... You can take on the left and you can take on the right... but you better not take on Masters Establishment PUNDITS~!

You do and you will be targeted with paychecks and sometimes careers ending.

[Fredom101]

Might as well ignore TV & the MSM, they are so far out of touch from reality it's ridiculous. Giving them your time and energy is a waste imo.

[BFranklin]

Whats their email??

[puppetmaster]

"No experiment can be more interesting than that we are now trying, and which we trust
will end in establishing the fact, that man may be governed by reason and truth. Our first
object should therefore be, to leave open to him all the avenues to truth. The most
effectual hitherto found, is the freedom of the press. It is, therefore, the first shut up by
those who fear the investigation of their actions." --Thomas Jefferson to John Tyler, 1804.
ME 11:33

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Well I got a reply from Martin on Twitter, but nothing of any substance.

[AGRP]

Aren't cable subscriptions dieing just like the network news ?

This is exactly the reason why I haven't watched ANY type of news on TV for the last year besides what is shown on You Tube (highlights/lowlights).