why did Ron Paul and other vote this way?

[phesoge]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/131729-house-passes-legislation-to-extend-only-some-bush-era-tax-cuts


So half way through the article it say Ron Paul, Walter Jones, and John DUncan voted wit hthe Dems. EXPLAIN??? These our tax cuts?

[Brett85]

Ron Paul voted against raising taxes on the middle class. Other Republicans voted against extending the middle class tax cuts because they didn't include the rich as well.

[phesoge]

Thank you for the response. NEO CON friend called me railing about Ron. Appreciate the fast response

[specsaregood]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/131729-house-passes-legislation-to-extend-only-some-bush-era-tax-cuts


So half way through the article it say Ron Paul, Walter Jones, and John DUncan voted wit hthe Dems. EXPLAIN??? These our tax cuts?

If those 3 voted for it, then more than likely it was a good thing to vote for.

[specsaregood]

Thank you for the response. NEO CON friend called me railing about Ron. Appreciate the fast response

you should ask your friend why the rest of the republicans voted to raise taxes.

[angelatc]

Wow - could this be the reason Boehner wants to take the sub-committee seat away now?

[devil21]

Ron will always vote for any tax cut, regardless of who the majority party behind the bill is. He says this over and over in interviews.

Im wondering why the Republicans talk about tax cuts so much but then vote against them when it matters. Oh yeah, because it's all talk unless it applies to the rich people that support their campaigns. If that bill was just for the rich tax cuts they would have voted for it in a second.

[Vessol]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/131729-house-passes-legislation-to-extend-only-some-bush-era-tax-cuts


So half way through the article it say Ron Paul, Walter Jones, and John DUncan voted wit hthe Dems. EXPLAIN??? These our tax cuts?

Ron Paul isn't your average Republican. He doesn't vote along party lines. He votes along liberty lines.

[jclay2]

Ron Paul isn't your average Republican. He doesn't vote along party lines. He votes along liberty lines.

Yep. And if there comes a vote for full extension with no income limit, Ron Paul will vote for that as well. However, unlike the comrads lead by Boehner, he will not pass on 99+week unemployment.

[Knightskye]

Ron Paul says he'll always vote for a tax credit, because he wants people to get their money back.

[Vessol]

Less money in the hands of the government, the better.

[RileyE104]

Wow - could this be the reason Boehner wants to take the sub-committee seat away now?

Where are people getting this info??
I can't find anything saying that Boehner wants to take Ron's chairman status away.

[Ricky201]

The Republicans are freaking delussional if they think a Democratic controlled senate will vote for both middle and upper class tax cuts to be permanent. It's not going to happen, at least this has a shot.

[crazyfacedjenkins]

I'd drop the partisan hack, sounds like the kind of person who will report you to the gestapo for not voting republicrat.

[nobody's_hero]

The bottom line is that our tax code is complete BS. It's structured in such a way as to incite class warfare. Politicians manipulate this to stay in office.

Couple that with the fact that bills contain such a hodge-podge of legislation that you'll be damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't.

[Feeding the Abscess]

Yep. And if there comes a vote for full extension with no income limit, Ron Paul will vote for that as well. However, unlike the comrads lead by Boehner, he will not pass on 99+week unemployment.

Actually, he would. He said as much during Morning Joe yesterday.

However, the situation he presented was as follows:

"Why don't we stop building embassies overseas, and use half of that $10 billion to help the unemployed or those who don't have medical care, and put the other half towards the debt?"

He uses that tactic pretty frequently; he called for cutting $500 billion from our foreign policy and using up to half to pay for social programs/infrastructure/etc here at home, and putting the other half towards the debt at some point this year.

[Brett85]

Actually, he would. He said as much during Morning Joe yesterday.

However, the situation he presented was as follows:

"Why don't we stop building embassies overseas, and use half of that $10 billion to help the unemployed or those who don't have medical care, and put the other half towards the debt?"

He uses that tactic pretty frequently; he called for cutting $500 billion from our foreign policy and using up to half to pay for social programs/infrastructure/etc here at home, and putting the other half towards the debt at some point this year.

When Ron says stuff like that it makes it sound like he's turning into Barry Goldwater in his later years. Why in the world would Ron want to spend more money on welfare, medical care, etc? It's no wonder that many conservative Republicans are suspicous of him when he says stuff like that.

[Feeding the Abscess]

He doesn't. Win.

However, if the money is going to be spent, he'd rather it get spent on people here as opposed to blowing up civilians around the world/lining the pockets of the MIC. Win.

Also, he says that sort of thing when he's talking to liberal audiences, so they don't have much of a choice but to agree with him. Win.

[Brett85]

He doesn't. Win.

However, if the money is going to be spent, he'd rather it get spent on people here as opposed to blowing up civilians around the world/lining the pockets of the MIC. Win.

Also, he says that sort of thing when he's talking to liberal audiences, so they don't have much of a choice but to agree with him. Win.

So a liberal audience watches a conservative commentator like Joe S? That's interesting. He's still basically saying that he wants to spend money on unconstitutional programs here at home. That makes no sense. He needs to make the case for cutting spending across the board, balancing the budget, and paying off the debt. I'm glad that Rand never uses any of Ron's left wing rhetoric on issues like this.

[Feeding the Abscess]

He doesn't want to spend money on unconstitutional programs. He said in the sentence before that he's "against the welfare state". And he more than made the case for cutting spending; hell, he said that we can stiff the Fed on our interest payments on the debt while refusing to raise the debt limit.

Rand is child's play compared to Ron on spending issues.

Scarborough is beltway; and certainly not someone who shares an audience with the Hannity, Rush, O'Reilly crowd. Additionally, he's on MSNBC, and most of the guests are part of the liberal media.

[therepublic]

Ron Paul says:
December 2, 2010

"Today I voted for HR 4853, legislation which ensures the continuation of many of the Bush tax cuts. If no action had been taken by this Congress, all Americans would have had to pay higher income, dividend, and capital gains taxes beginning on January 1, 2011. While I would have preferred that the current lower tax rates remain in place for all Americans, the fact is that a tax cut for most people is better than a tax increase on everyone. I will always vote to lower taxes at all levels, and I will never vote for tax increases. The passage of this bill will result in the overwhelming majority of Americans paying lower taxes next year than they otherwise would have. "

Read his full statement here, and see what he says about an excise tax: http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1801:statement-on-hr-4853-the-middle-class-tax-relief-act-of-2010&catid=15:floor-statements

[Brett85]

He doesn't want to spend money on unconstitutional programs. He said in the sentence before that he's "against the welfare state". And he more than made the case for cutting spending; hell, he said that we can stiff the Fed on our interest payments on the debt while refusing to raise the debt limit.

Rand is child's play compared to Ron on spending issues.

Scarborough is beltway; and certainly not someone who shares an audience with the Hannity, Rush, O'Reilly crowd. Additionally, he's on MSNBC, and most of the guests are part of the liberal media.

He did say that as well, which was why his comment about spending money on "social programs" was confusing. He said much the same thing on Larry King Live, when he was on with Barney Frank. He made a comment about how we could "spend some money on health care" if we just cut military spending and brought the troops home. Obviously the federal government doesn't have the constitutional authority to spend money on health care, so comments like that are just confusing and disturbing. Ron has a great voting record, but it does certainly seem like he tries to appeal to liberals when he goes on these shows. He needs to remember that he has to win over Republicans to win the GOP nomination, not liberal Democrats.

[jmdrake]

He did say that as well, which was why his comment about spending money on "social programs" was confusing. He said much the same thing on Larry King Live, when he was on with Barney Frank. He made a comment about how we could "spend some money on health care" if we just cut military spending and brought the troops home. Obviously the federal government doesn't have the constitutional authority to spend money on health care, so comments like that are just confusing and disturbing. Ron has a great voting record, but it does certainly seem like he tries to appeal to liberals when he goes on these shows. He needs to remember that he has to win over Republicans to win the GOP nomination, not liberal Democrats.

Actually Ron needs to win over moderate republicans and independents (i.e. disgruntled Obama voters) to win the nomination. And he's not talking about spending new money on social programs. He's always talked about the need to wean people off of dependence on government rather than cutting them off cold turkey. He is a doctor after all.

[specsaregood]

He did say that as well, which was why his comment about spending money on "social programs" was confusing. He said much the same thing on Larry King Live, when he was on with Barney Frank. He made a comment about how we could "spend some money on health care" if we just cut military spending and brought the troops home. Obviously the federal government doesn't have the constitutional authority to spend money on health care, so comments like that are just confusing and disturbing. Ron has a great voting record, but it does certainly seem like he tries to appeal to liberals when he goes on these shows. He needs to remember that he has to win over Republicans to win the GOP nomination, not liberal Democrats.

Plenty of republicans love government social programs. They are called senior citizens and they like their medicare.