Google & You Tube Ban Alex Jones

[ericsnow]

Both Google and its subsidiary company You Tube have banned Alex Jones and his websites, as attempts to curtail free speech widen.

Within the past 2-3 weeks, Jones and his team have confirmed that after years of being listed under Google News, one of the largest platforms for news dissemination, that PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com have been blocked from its search results, effectively censoring their content from wide web coverage. Only smaller sites that re-post the content have appeared in Google searches since early November.

In a separate matter, TheAlexJonesChannel on YouTube has learned that it will be either frozen or blocked from uploading new content for several weeks following a "Community Guidelines" violation decision. According to YouTube's support team, users from its site flagged a video on the channel that contained controversial video of the Apache helicopter "collateral murder" that occurred in Iraq in 2007 and was released by Wikileaks. When TheAlexJonesChannel attempted to challenge the removal of this video via YouTube's counter-notification form, it was subsequently told that the account would be disabled and new content blocked (apparently due to the challenge, as no other strikes exist on the account).

The graphic content in the video-- which documents real events the Pentagon never wanted released-- has been posted by hundreds of other channels on YouTube, including major media outlets like CBS News and Russia Today without being flagged or removed, yet TheAlexJonesChannel has been told that its posting of a smaller portion of this incident is offensive or otherwise against its community guidelines. This appears to be double standard as even the age-verification barrier set-up for some of the postings was not offered for TheAlexJonesChannel version; it was simple deleted by user demand and YouTube mandate.

It is evident that the system revels in any chance to dampen the loud voice that Alex Jones, Infowars.com/PrisonPlanet.com and its supporters have raised on the Internet, effectively challenging the status quo and mainstream media spin on major news and events. With the easy passage of the web censorship bill, it is further clear that what is happening now to Infowars.com and Alex Jones will soon happen to anyone without a politically-correct message, particularly when that message is capable of resonating throughout large parts of the globe.

It is up to supporters and lovers of freedom to challenge censorship and oppression on the web, because only resistance can slow the attempts to curtail free speech and expression online. As Frederick Douglass said, "Find out just what the people will submit to and you've found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress." This will be prove to be more true than ever in the age of the Internet.

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YouTube - Google & You Tube Ban Alex Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVtfSO28Upw&feature)

[Kludge]

YouTube - Google & You Tube Ban Alex Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVtfSO28Upw&feature)

Google must be pretty dumb to let Alex protest their malicious censorship using their own service.

[ericsnow]

Google must be pretty dumb to let Alex protest their malicious censorship using their own service.

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[ericsnow]

bump

[ericsnow]

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[ericsnow]

Send this story - http://www.infowars.com/google-you-tube-ban-alex-jones/

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[Bman]

Google must be pretty dumb to let Alex protest their malicious censorship using their own service.

I lol'd.

[crazyfacedjenkins]

Probably because he was talking about creating "google bombs" to promote Max Keiser's idea: crash Goldman Sachs by buying silver.

[libertyvidz]

Max Keiser is a socialist who by his own admission hates America and wants to see it destroyed for causing an "ecological holocaust" (whatever that means) and he supported Obamacare though he would prefer the socialist French model and he wanted to crash Whole Foods because the CEO had the audacity to say that there was a free market (as in Ron Paul) approach to healthcare. Maxipad even went so far as to say that the American people should rise up in revolution knowing that "Obama's got your back". (This is before Obama was inaugurated and before Max appeared in the anti Obama Alex Jones film "The Obama Deception". I guess Max was "deceived" by Obama?) Max Keiser is gutter slime and it really bothers me that Alex Jones has anything to do with him.

[Agorism]

i'd be surprised if this actually happens.

[Seraphim]

wait....Youtube banned ALL Alex Jones videos? Seriously? Is this for real?

[libertyvidz]

wait....Youtube banned ALL Alex Jones videos? Seriously? Is this for real?

No. That's not even the claim. The claim is Youtube banned TheAlexJonesChannel from uploading new content. But even that claim is questionable considering that Alex Jones uploaded a video to TheAlexJonesChannel criticizing YouTube and Google for the "ban". Of course it's possible that YouTube/Google backed down just like the TSA backed down when it turned off many of the porn scanners on opt out day.

[Agorism]

Jones is always hyping that someone is trying to ban him. I'll believe it when I see it.

[Seraphim]

No. That's not even the claim. The claim is Youtube banned TheAlexJonesChannel from uploading new content. But even that claim is questionable considering that Alex Jones uploaded a video to TheAlexJonesChannel criticizing YouTube and Google for the "ban". Of course it's possible that YouTube/Google backed down just like the TSA backed down when it turned off many of the porn scanners on opt out day.

K gotcha. Thanks...

[GunnyFreedom]

I dunno, I don't see anything missing. PP is still on Google News, IW is still on Google, and TAJC is still on YouTube. Don't things have to start going missing before it's called a 'ban?'

[brandon]

ericsnow has to be on AJs payroll. THat's all he ever posts about.

[TNforPaul45]

Hmmmmmmmm..........

[specsaregood]

ericsnow has to be on AJs payroll. THat's all he ever posts about.

maybe he just has no other interests or hobbies?

[crazyfacedjenkins]

maybe he just has no other interests or hobbies?

ouch

[torchbearer]

Google must be pretty dumb to let Alex protest their malicious censorship using their own service.

doesn't google use adobe technology to stream its videos?

[angelatc]

*delete the other thread, this ones better*

What an ass.

[ericsnow]

What an ass.

Not really. The other thread had a question mark, implying that Alex Jones might not be banned and it could be bullsh*t, when really it's 100% fact.

Also he didn't post the video or the screen shot of the email from youtube in his OP.

[ericsnow]

Jones is always hyping that someone is trying to ban him. I'll believe it when I see it.

Search infowars on google news and set the search parameters to past week. Believe it?

[ericsnow]

Of course it's possible that YouTube/Google backed down just like the TSA backed down when it turned off many of the porn scanners on opt out day.

No he has to wait until he responds to the email before they disable his youtube account.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2m440nl.png

[ericsnow]

I dunno, I don't see anything missing. PP is still on Google News

You need to set the search parameters to "past week" for date.


IW is still on Google

He never claimed he was banned from google altogether, just google news.


and TAJC is still on YouTube.

He never claimed he was permanently banned from youtube. He said TheAlexJonesChannel was being shut down for 2 weeks (once he responded to their email) for something that hundreds if not thousands of other channels did, which was post the wikileaks video of the helicopter gunfire.

[ericsnow]

ericsnow has to be on AJs payroll.

No.

[ctiger2]

Alex Jonestein will be fine...

http://www.avaresearch.com/ava-main-website/ava/files/Alex%20Jones%20Zionist.jpg?page=ava/files/Alex%20Jones%20Zionist.jpg

[GunnyFreedom]

Not really. The other thread had a question mark, implying that Alex Jones might not be banned and it could be bullsh*t, when really it's 100% fact.

Also he didn't post the video or the screen shot of the email from youtube in his OP.

yes, really. Considering the fact that AJ is still all over the nets, and much of the issue is in the realm of future action, the issue is more properly phrased as a question not a statement. "Will Google and YouTube Ban Alex Jones?"

Not only is yours inaccurate, but it is overhyped in a way we have all come to expect and loathe from AJ and his fans. Not only was your inaccurate, but the other thread was actually accurate.

Not only that, but you asked to have the accurate one, posted by a different author, deleted so that your inaccurate and sensationalist post would enjoy an artificial monopoly.

That is the antithesis of everything I, and most of us on these boards, are working for. Anybody who excitedly cries out to have the accurate truth as reported by someone else deleted so that his sensationalist exaggerations don't have to compete in the marketplace of ideas, is in my book everything Angela said and worse. Sorry chum.

[phx420]

fill my heart with song, let me sing forever more

[specsaregood]

im thoroughly entertained by this Alex Jones's sensationalism, the government has alot of reasons to be afraid of him, but i dont like the precedent being set for internet censorship.

I have absolutely no problem with google/youtube deciding what content they want to allow users to upload on their private property (servers). If Jones doesn't like it, he doesn't have to use their service.

[ericsnow]

Alex Jonestein will be fine...

http://www.avaresearch.com/ava-main-website/ava/files/Alex%20Jones%20Zionist.jpg?page=ava/files/Alex%20Jones%20Zionist.jpg

OMG! He's flexing and his arm just so happens to form the shape of a Z! That means he's a Zionist!

[low preference guy]

OMG! He's flexing and his arm just so happens to form the shape of a Z! That means he's a Zionist!

get a life

[remaxjon]

Alex Jones is a jackass and google is a private company they can ban him and all the other conspiracy junkies if they want.

[ericsnow]

get a life

Shouldn't the guy who posted the picture get a life?

[johnny.rebel]

Alex Jones is a jackass and google is a private company they can ban him and all the other conspiracy junkies if they want.
wut? why?

[remaxjon]

wut? why?

private company!!! you people are amazing you can't force a private company to do something it does not want to do. You can vote with your wallet and maybe they will change there mind. FREE MARKETS remember

[bossman068410]

I don't consider google to be a private company. They get billions of free bandwith from us taxpayers.

ooops my bad

Quote:
Originally Posted by RonPaulIsGreat
Reading the pdf, linked to in the article, the first couple of paragraphs explain this 21 to 1 number they are touting.

Essentially, google sends a bot to a website, we'll use ronpaulforums.com as the crawled site. So, here comes google bot, and it copies everything (if you are lucky), into googles databases, from there it does it's thing to determine search engine results. Everyone understands that.

The logic used in the pdf is that since google is costing ronpaulforums.com bandwidth by copying it's pages to analyze, is that google is getting subsidized by ronpaulforums.com because ronpaulforums.com pays for the bandwidth the bot consumes. Really it's more messed up than that in that they appear to be attributing the fact that the host is paying for that bandwidth, not the casual browser.

Now, that is a ridiculous position, true google may cause a lot of bandwidth usage in it's crawling, however, that crawling is necessary to determine search results, and additionally every website can stop all such crawling via robots.txt file. You'd be a fool, not to accept the minimal cost incurred by crawling if you are a public website though, but you can stop it, and incur no bandwidth costs. Google crawling your site is VOLUNTARY.

So, their analysis is hack at best, which is probably why no other sites have picked it up.

Here's the quote, of their logic.

"What drives this conspicuous bandwidth consumption is Google’s search bots regularly copy every page on the Internet, some as frequently as every few seconds, and Google’s YouTube streams almost half of all video streamed on the Internet."

Anyone that runs a public website and desires traffic from google's search engine loves google bot visiting, because obviously that means the possiblity of more traffic.

The consumer eating the costs, is also absurd, it's not the consumer eating the cost, it's the website host eating that cost. You the consumer, pay your ISP to view the results of the crawling, that the host paid for.

+rep


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
Implicit subsidies.

I could make that claim that since I live within 2 miles of Pizza Hut, I subsidize those who live ten miles away, since I pay the same delivery charge even though it costs less to deliver pizza to my door than it does to another person further away.

To say that is a "subsidy" which, in my opinion, implies the role of government, is a bit over the top.

+rep

[johnny.rebel]

private company!!! you people are amazing you can't force a private company to do something it does not want to do. You can vote with your wallet and maybe they will change there mind. FREE MARKETS remember
sure google is stupid if they do ban jones, somebody else will pick him up, they can be stupid if they want, that's the beauty of free markets.

but why do you call alex jones a jackass?

[low preference guy]

I don't consider google to be a private company. They get billions of free bandwith from us taxpayers.

so which ISP that serves google is funded by taxpayers?

[remaxjon]

I don't consider google to be a private company. They get billions of free bandwith from us taxpayers.

so you and the government get to decide what gets to be on google news not google. Give me a break

[remaxjon]

sure google is stupid if they do ban jones, somebody else will pick him up, they can be stupid if they want, that's the beauty of free markets.

but why do you call alex jones a jackass?

I think he is a fear merchant who blows everything way out of proportion.

[bossman068410]

so which ISP that serves google is funded by taxpayers?

my bad

Quote:
Originally Posted by RonPaulIsGreat
Reading the pdf, linked to in the article, the first couple of paragraphs explain this 21 to 1 number they are touting.

Essentially, google sends a bot to a website, we'll use ronpaulforums.com as the crawled site. So, here comes google bot, and it copies everything (if you are lucky), into googles databases, from there it does it's thing to determine search engine results. Everyone understands that.

The logic used in the pdf is that since google is costing ronpaulforums.com bandwidth by copying it's pages to analyze, is that google is getting subsidized by ronpaulforums.com because ronpaulforums.com pays for the bandwidth the bot consumes. Really it's more messed up than that in that they appear to be attributing the fact that the host is paying for that bandwidth, not the casual browser.

Now, that is a ridiculous position, true google may cause a lot of bandwidth usage in it's crawling, however, that crawling is necessary to determine search results, and additionally every website can stop all such crawling via robots.txt file. You'd be a fool, not to accept the minimal cost incurred by crawling if you are a public website though, but you can stop it, and incur no bandwidth costs. Google crawling your site is VOLUNTARY.

So, their analysis is hack at best, which is probably why no other sites have picked it up.

Here's the quote, of their logic.

"What drives this conspicuous bandwidth consumption is Google’s search bots regularly copy every page on the Internet, some as frequently as every few seconds, and Google’s YouTube streams almost half of all video streamed on the Internet."

Anyone that runs a public website and desires traffic from google's search engine loves google bot visiting, because obviously that means the possiblity of more traffic.

The consumer eating the costs, is also absurd, it's not the consumer eating the cost, it's the website host eating that cost. You the consumer, pay your ISP to view the results of the crawling, that the host paid for.

+rep


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
Implicit subsidies.

I could make that claim that since I live within 2 miles of Pizza Hut, I subsidize those who live ten miles away, since I pay the same delivery charge even though it costs less to deliver pizza to my door than it does to another person further away.

To say that is a "subsidy" which, in my opinion, implies the role of government, is a bit over the top.

+rep

[johnny.rebel]

I think he is a fear merchant who blows everything way out of proportion.
what if you are wrong? do you know the truth about everything? if so, then tell us.

[remaxjon]

what if you are wrong? do you know the truth about everything? if so, then tell us.

you can't be serious

This is why I don't get into conversations with conspiracy junkies. Cheers

[jmhudak17]

I think he is a fear merchant who blows everything way out of proportion.

agreed

[specsaregood]

what if you are wrong? do you know the truth about everything? if so, then tell us.

42.

[Pericles]

42.

Correct answer except in those cases where the correct answer is 22 trucks.

[johnny.rebel]

you can't be serious

This is why I don't get into conversations with conspiracy junkies. Cheers
what conspiracy? i'm no conspiracy junky. most of what alex talks about is proven to be true. do you even know what conspiracy is? what has alex said that is conspiracy theory?

[johnny.rebel]

agreed

show me.

[Slutter McGee]

private company!!! you people are amazing you can't force a private company to do something it does not want to do. You can vote with your wallet and maybe they will change there mind. FREE MARKETS remember

But thats not FAIR. You really don't know how true libertarianism works. Its like Israel....we dont want our money going there, but if Israel does something we don't like we must condemn them as a country. That is true interventionism. We also want Net Neutrality because we trust the government more than the big bad evil corporations.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

[ericsnow]

Google is so afraid of infowars they just disabled google trends from updating automatically. In the past...

http://i52.tinypic.com/2moqpg2.png

Now...

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[low preference guy]

Google is so afraid of infowars they just disabled google trends from updating automatically.

and..........? we should care because?

[ericsnow]

and..........? we should care because?

Cool brah, you don't care. Some people will.

[specsaregood]

Google is so afraid of infowars they just disabled google trends from updating automatically.


It is illogical leaps to such conclusions that cause many of us to discount the ramblings of infowars promoters.

[johnny.rebel]

you can't be serious

This is why I don't get into conversations with conspiracy junkies. Cheers

link? i am serious. you login the forums to call alex jones a jackass and others conspiracy junkies. wtf you are talking about? i'm not a conspiracy junky. i seek the truth. you don't care about truth no matter what is in your signature. you just want to trash people. unless you can backup what you say, you're just a blowhard.

[ericsnow]

It is illogical leaps to such conclusions that cause many of us to discount the ramblings of infowars promoters.

So it's just a huge coincidence starting today google trends doesn't update automatically every hour ?

[jmhudak17]

It is illogical leaps to such conclusions that cause many of us to discount the ramblings of infowars promoters.

This

[Kludge]

//

[specsaregood]

So it's just a huge coincidence starting today google trends doesn't update automatically every hour ?

Yes. I wouldn't call it "huge", but coincidence? Yes most likely. i guess you think big companies such as google just willy nilly change shit? Changes like the one you show would require multiple levels of spec'ing, testing and at the end of it all an approval process. It didn't just "happen" today, it no doubt has been in the works for days/weeks/months.

[johnny.rebel]

This
lots of alex jones haters here. don't you care about the truth? nobody is perfect but alex is right a lot more than he is wrong. unless i'm missing something. :confused:

[specsaregood]

lots of alex jones haters here. don't you care about the truth? nobody is perfect but alex is right a lot more than he is wrong. unless i'm missing something. :confused:

Nope, I dont hate him one bit. Although I'm still waiting anxiously for the cops to come to my house to "cut my balls off". He told me they can't wait to do it.

[johnny.rebel]

Nope, I dont hate him one bit. Although I'm still waiting anxiously for the cops to come to my house to "cut my balls off". He told me they can't wait to do it.
lulz :D

[johnny.rebel]

sorry but i find most people who hate on alex jones to be rather uninformed sheep. ZZZ..zzz..zzz

[remaxjon]

Google is so afraid of infowars they just disabled google trends from updating automatically. In the past...

http://i52.tinypic.com/2moqpg2.png

Now...

http://i52.tinypic.com/ehk6ky.png

Google is not afraid of infowars.

You need to get some perspective. 99%+ of people have no idea what infowars, prison planet, or who alex jones is. google is the most popular search engine in the world.

[Vessol]

Google is not afraid of infowars.

You need to get some perspective. 99%+ of people have no idea what infowars, prison planet, or who alex jones is. google is the most popular search engine in the world.

Stories that originate on infowars have constantly reached the top of google trends for a few years now.

You can say what you want, but they definitely have some presence that Google is now ignoring.

[specsaregood]

sorry but i find most people who hate on alex jones to be rather uninformed sheep. ZZZ..zzz..zzz

And many of us consider aj fanboys the same. It seems we are at an impasse.

[johnny.rebel]

And many of us consider aj fanboys the same. It seems we are at an impasse.
how about you show me rather than talk shit.

[specsaregood]

how about you show me rather than talk shit.

show you what?

[Kludge]

how about you show me rather than talk shit.

Fuck off.

[johnny.rebel]

Fuck off.
no. show me something intelligent. where is alex wrong?

[specsaregood]

no. show me something intelligent. where is alex wrong?

He covers up the existence of the reptilian race that rules this world. Because he probably is one.....

[jmhudak17]

no. show me something intelligent. where is alex wrong?

9/11, overall paranoia, thinking that every little thing is a conspiracy without any/much evidence.

[johnny.rebel]

He covers up the existence of the reptilian race that rules this world.
that's not intelligent. do you have anything intelligent to say?

[johnny.rebel]

9/11, overall paranoia, thinking that every little thing is a conspiracy without any/much evidence.

link?

[specsaregood]

that's not intelligent. do you have anything intelligent to say?

prove I'm wrong.

[ericsnow]

prove I'm wrong.

You could be right... but there are no documents proving it. Alex Jones only covers what he can prove.

[johnny.rebel]

prove I'm wrong.
lolz :D ya got nothin do ya. just a bunch of sheeple.

[jmhudak17]

link?

How do I come up with a link for that? I'm referring to his overall mindset.

[specsaregood]

You could be right... but there are no documents proving it. Alex Jones only covers what he can prove.

I am and he knows about it. He is in on it, covering up the existence of the reptilians.

[johnny.rebel]

How do I come up with a link for that? I'm referring to his overall mindset.
you are what you believe. wake up. ya got nothin. you don't want to know the truth, you just want to bitch.

[jmhudak17]

you are what you believe. wake up. ya got nothin. you don't want to know the truth, you just want to bitch.

What the hell are you talking about?

[specsaregood]

you are what you believe. wake up. ya got nothin. you don't want to know the truth, you just want to bitch.

wake up! AJ is using you to further the agenda of the reptiles! That is why he denies "manmade" global warming. Which is really "reptilemade" as they are terraforming the planet to be more suitable to their kind! Wake up before it is too late!

[low preference guy]

so is alex jones paying the aj groupies that have recently invaded the forum?

[johnny.rebel]

you alex jones haters are just a waste of time.. can't back up what you say. just talk crap. i'm outta here. wake up!

[low preference guy]

What the hell are you talking about?

the TRUTH dude! don't you want to know T.H.E. TRUTH?

[specsaregood]

you alex jones haters are just a waste of time.. can't back up what you say. just talk crap. i'm outta here. wake up!

so you deny reptile-made global warming? are you one of them?

[johnny.rebel]

so is alex jones paying the aj groupies that have recently invaded the forum?
not me. i'm not an alex jones groupie. i've watched his videos. i don't see where alex is wrong, and i ask somebody to show me a link where he is wrong.. nobody can do it. why all the hate?

[johnny.rebel]

just link it. show me.

[aravoth]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/aravoth/agstickfigures4.gif

[jmhudak17]

just link it. show me.

Link what? I can't link to something when I'm talking about his overall mindset. There's no article that says "BREAKING NEWS: Alex Jones is paranoid and thinks everything is a conspiracy with little evidence".

[specsaregood]

just link it. show me.

Ok, if I must.
YouTube - Alex Jones: The Russians are gonna nuke us - Y2K Broadcast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeuPU1agi98)

[johnny.rebel]

Link what? I can't link to something when I'm talking about his overall mindset. There's no article that says "BREAKING NEWS: Alex Jones is paranoid and thinks everything is a conspiracy with little evidence".

link a video, or report where alex promotes something that he can't prove. it should be simple if what you say is true.

[specsaregood]

link a video, or report where alex promotes something that he can't prove. it should be simple if what you say is true.

I guess the russians really did invade the US on y2k?

[jmhudak17]

link a video, or report where alex promotes something that he can't prove. it should be simple if what you say is true.

I don't need to. He thinks 9/11 was done by the government. He can't prove it.

[johnny.rebel]

Ok, if I must.
YouTube - Alex Jones: The Russians are gonna nuke us - Y2K Broadcast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeuPU1agi98)
thanks specs. finally somebody with some balls. i'll watch this.

[specsaregood]

thanks specs. finally somebody with some balls. i'll watch this.

Enjoy, its great entertainment.

[johnny.rebel]

I guess the russians really did invade the US on y2k?
what a stretch. a decade ago!? :confused: gezzz. i'll watch anyway.

[specsaregood]

what a stretch. a decade ago!? :confused: gezzz. i'll watch anyway.

Its just the funniest one I could think up off the top of your head. You didn't ask for a timeframe.

[low preference guy]

what a stretch. a decade ago!? :confused: gezzz. i'll watch anyway.

just listen to any random youtube. you'll hear some good criticism of the government, but also the ramblings of a lunatic. it's a mix of good and information and stuff he makes up.

[johnny.rebel]

Its just the funniest one I could think up off the top of your head. You didn't ask for a timeframe.

seriously, thanks! :D i want to know if he is full of it or not.

[ericsnow]

Youtube video of Alex Jones on Y2K

Wow people are still bringing this up? He was calmly reading headlines from the Associated Press. It's not like he was making sh*t up.

[johnny.rebel]

just listen to any random youtube. you'll hear some good criticism of the government, but also the ramblings of a lunatic.

i don't buy that. he is not a lunatic. i don't like the govenment either.

[bubbleboy]

Alex is an American HERO. GOOOOO Alex, you opened my eyes. :D:D

[vita3]

Alex presents great info & has good guests. If he could tone it down a little & be little more even keeled, maybe he could bring in a bigger audience & change things.

[specsaregood]

Wow people are still bringing this up? He was calmly reading headlines from the Associated Press. It's not like he was making sh*t up.

LOL. Ok, then show me those AP headlines.

[ericsnow]

LOL. Ok, then show me those AP headlines.

11 years ago...

[specsaregood]

11 years ago...

Well I was around 11 years ago, and I dont recall any headlines such as the spew he is shoveling in that broadcast.

[ericsnow]

Well I was around 11 years ago, and I dont recall any headlines such as the spew he is shoveling in that broadcast.

That's because they were retracted soon after being published.

[Hamer]

Alex Jones did not predict 9-11 like he says he did, William Cooper did. Alex lied about him being the first.

YouTube - Alex Jones Didn't Predict 9/11 Bill Cooper Did (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JHqB7w9WSI&feature=channel)

[specsaregood]

That's because they were retracted soon after being published.

sure they were. please show another outlet that published those claims.

[johnny.rebel]

y2k was a big deal for most of us. i never heard of alex jones at the time but there was a lot of worry about the computer clocks programed wrong screwing up the electric grid and a bunch of other stuff. that video is not damning in my opinion. just the sign of the times. give me something recent where alex is wrong.

[johnny.rebel]

Alex Jones did not predict 9-11 like he says he did, William Cooper did. Alex lied about him being the first.

YouTube - Alex Jones Didn't Predict 9/11 Bill Cooper Did (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JHqB7w9WSI&feature=channel)

ok my mistake. i should have said give me something credible where he is wrong. claiming first when he might have been second is not a big deal for me. what else you got?

[jmdrake]

Stories that originate on infowars have constantly reached the top of google trends for a few years now.

You can say what you want, but they definitely have some presence that Google is now ignoring.

^This. One things for certain about AJ. He's definitely a polarizing figure.

Lots of disinfo here, but must is probably mistakes versus malice.

On the AJ side, as someone else pointed out, if AJ isn't banned yet, then the title is incorrect. The fact that YouTube has threatened a ban means nothing. Maybe AJ is trying to stir stuff up as a preemptive strike?

On the anti AJ side, yeah Google is a private company. But I haven't seen AJ say that the government should get involved, so that's irrelevant. Google has a right to ban people. People who are banned have a right to complain and call for a boycott. (Mass exodus to bing for search and Vimeo for video?) People who support any such non government action have a right to spread their call for action on any website that will let them speak. And opponents have a right to oppose. So whether Google is "private" or not is irrelevant to the discussion. If anyone talks about "suing" Google that's a horse of a different color.

As far as "Bill Cooper predicting 9/11 first"...ummm....doesn't that just further prove AJ's main point about 9/11? Ok, so someone else should get credit for the scoop. But two people scooping the same event before it happens strengthens the argument that they didn't just make a "lucky guess". Also some might claim that AJ only said he predicted 9/11 and changed the date on the film. (Hey, I wasn't watching his show. How do I know he really predicted anything?) But showing Bill Cooper predicted this even before Alex Jones claims to have predicted it validates once and for all that 9/11 was predicted. Take from that what you will.

[bubbleboy]

Waaa Alex doesn't speak softly and slowly, he scares me:eek: My mommy said not to listen to him if he screams or gets angry because it makes me scared and my panties get wet and I need a lolly pop.

buncha f(*^&() wusses!

[johnny.rebel]

^This. One things for certain about AJ. He's definitely a polarizing figure.

Lots of disinfo here, but must is probably mistakes versus malice.

On the AJ side, as someone else pointed out, if AJ isn't banned yet, then the title is incorrect. The fact that YouTube has threatened a ban means nothing. Maybe AJ is trying to stir stuff up as a preemptive strike?

On the anti AJ side, yeah Google is a private company. But I haven't seen AJ say that the government should get involved, so that's irrelevant. Google has a right to ban people. People who are banned have a right to complain and call for a boycott. (Mass exodus to bing for search and Vimeo for video?) People who support any such non government action have a right to spread their call for action on any website that will let them speak. And opponents have a right to oppose. So whether Google is "private" or not is irrelevant to the discussion. If anyone talks about "suing" Google that's a horse of a different color.

As far as "Bill Cooper predicting 9/11 first"...ummm....doesn't that just further prove AJ's main point about 9/11? Ok, so someone else should get credit for the scoop. But two people scooping the same event before it happens strengthens the argument that they didn't just make a "lucky guess". Also some might claim that AJ only said he predicted 9/11 and changed the date on the film. (Hey, I wasn't watching his show. How do I know he really predicted anything?) But showing Bill Cooper predicted this even before Alex Jones claims to have predicted it validates once and for all that 9/11 was predicted. Take from that what you will.
good points. i'm not an alex jones groupie, i just watch his videos once in a while. when i read the hate coming from people in this thread it caught me off guard. alex does say some stupid stuff sometimes, but so do i. i find most of what he says to be alot more credible than his haters who can't even back what they say in a forum. i'll be more alert to what these guys say in the future.

[remaxjon]

^This. One things for certain about AJ. He's definitely a polarizing figure.

Lots of disinfo here, but must is probably mistakes versus malice.

On the AJ side, as someone else pointed out, if AJ isn't banned yet, then the title is incorrect. The fact that YouTube has threatened a ban means nothing. Maybe AJ is trying to stir stuff up as a preemptive strike?

On the anti AJ side, yeah Google is a private company. But I haven't seen AJ say that the government should get involved, so that's irrelevant. Google has a right to ban people. People who are banned have a right to complain and call for a boycott. (Mass exodus to bing for search and Vimeo for video?) People who support any such non government action have a right to spread their call for action on any website that will let them speak. And opponents have a right to oppose. So whether Google is "private" or not is irrelevant to the discussion. If anyone talks about "suing" Google that's a horse of a different color.

As far as "Bill Cooper predicting 9/11 first"...ummm....doesn't that just further prove AJ's main point about 9/11? Ok, so someone else should get credit for the scoop. But two people scooping the same event before it happens strengthens the argument that they didn't just make a "lucky guess". Also some might claim that AJ only said he predicted 9/11 and changed the date on the film. (Hey, I wasn't watching his show. How do I know he really predicted anything?) But showing Bill Cooper predicted this even before Alex Jones claims to have predicted it validates once and for all that 9/11 was predicted. Take from that what you will.

Your 3 points

To think google the biggest search engine in the world is afraid of alex jones a person no one in the mainstream media takes seriously and almost no one has even heard off is laughable.

Alex jones claims he is being censored in the video. He is not he is being banned "maybe" for posting something the property owners didn't like.

9/11 stuff that people who listen to Alex Jones enjoy

[specsaregood]

I think we should all email youtube in support of them suspending/banning alex jones' channel there. We should encourage them to make it permanent.

[low preference guy]

I think we should all email youtube in support of them suspending/banning alex jones' channel there. We should encourage them to make it permanent.

new world order agent!!!!!!!!

[specsaregood]

new world order agent!!!!!!!!

alex jones unmasked:!!!!!
http://72.73.236.82/photos/lizard.gif

[jmdrake]

Your 3 points

To think google the biggest search engine in the world is afraid of alex jones a person no one in the mainstream media takes seriously and almost no one has even heard off is laughable.


Say what you will. But I've seen Alex Jones video hit counts knocked down on YouTube. Glitch? Perhaps. But a lot more people have heard of him then you are willing to admit. And sometimes what you say is more dangerous than how many people know that you've said it.



Alex jones claims he is being censored in the video. He is not he is being banned "maybe" for posting something the property owners didn't like.


He's not being government censored. But censorship can be done by private actors. There's just no legal recourse for private censorship unless it's a violation of contract. And like I said already, the private property owners have a right to ban, and he has a right to complain. So what?



9/11 stuff that people who listen to Alex Jones enjoy

Whatever. Maybe some lack the intellectual curiosity to wonder why Bill Cooper and Alex Jones were able to predict 9/11 before the attack. By the way, Alex Jones' prediction is different in that it is more specific. Cooper just said "somewhere in the U.S." AJ predicted an attack in lower Manhattan.

[ericsnow]

Youtube hasn't enforced the ban yet. They just uploaded today's show.

[purplechoe]

so is alex jones paying the aj groupies that have recently invaded the forum?

fuck you, and I'm no Alex Jones fan...

to all those saying that Google has the right... lol

fucking idiots, even on this forum...

and a big FUCK YOU to all that call us conspiracy theorists, you might as well call Ron Paul a conspiracy wacko, talking about the Federal Reserve, people here are FUCKING MORONS!!!!

If you bash Alex Jones about his conspairacy, bash Ron Paul about his conspiracy about the FED, intellectual retards!!!

[MN Patriot]

I searched and found him on Youtube, so they haven't banned him yet.

bing.com has a bunch of his videos, too. Of course bing is from that great corporation Microsoft, so they would never ban anyone there.

[agitator]

Alex presents great info & has good guests. If he could tone it down a little & be little more even keeled, maybe he could bring in a bigger audience & change things.

Agree.

[Anti Federalist]

Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
Alex presents great info & has good guests. If he could tone it down a little & be little more even keeled, maybe he could bring in a bigger audience & change things.

Agree.

Like Limbaugh has done for the past twenty years?

Yes, we are much better off and have much more freedom now, than we did then.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I know it makes everybody scared, but the time for well modulated, carefully crafted platitudes, delivered by polished, accomplished "authority figures", reading from teleprompters is long over.

Not only should Alex continue his ranting and raving, but each and every one of us should be ranting and raving at the top of our lungs every day as well.

Shit is fucked up.

[MN Patriot]

Not only should Alex continue his ranting and raving, but each and every one of us should be ranting and raving at the top of our lungs every day as well.

Shit is fucked up.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Or in the case of Alex Jones, the grinding growling wheel.

A lot of his stuff is self-aggrandizing, dreaming up some new conspiracy / plot / crisis. We will have to see if Google really shuts him down from youtube.

[PreDeadMan]

I think it's because Alex Jones did a show about lizard jews and illuminati eskimos

[ericsnow]

I searched and found him on Youtube, so they haven't banned him yet.

I've explained it already in this thread but I'll explain it again.

Alex Hones has been BANNED from having his articles appear in Google NEWS. He has been in Google's news section for the past 8 years. He has been banned since around 1-2 weeks ago, though they have only as of last night confirmed it.

Now, this is from YouTube's (a subsidiary of google) support email received by infowars last night stating the channel will be suspended for 2 weeks from uploading videos because they showed a wikileaks helicopter slaying video (which 100s of other channels showed, including channels who are official YouTube partners).
http://i51.tinypic.com/2m440nl.png

The email then went on to say if there are any more violations it could result in The Alex Jones Channel being shut down for good.

[ericsnow]

Looks like all YouTube did was take down the video which they claimed violated their rules.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2c0j7t.png
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel

[MRK]

Enough is enough. I'm never using a Google service again. Time to move email accounts.

[ericsnow]

UPDATED DEC. 1, 2010 2:20 PM CST — You Tube issued TheAlexJonesChannel a notice reversing its PREVIOUS DECISION to freeze the account. In the newest contact, You Tube writes that “Upon additional review we have reinstated the material and removed any penalties that had been applied to your account.”

Only two days ago, YouTube responded to our counter-notification challenging the removal of a Wikileaks massacre video posted by literally hundreds of other media outlets by ruling to freeze our account. Now, thanks to outrage from our listeners and articles slamming the unfair ruling, You Tube has taken the rare and nearly unprecedented step of taking a second look, restoring the video and removing all penalties. Credit goes to You Tube for listening to our criticism.

Ironically, though, even this reversal contains its own spin. Below the decision [see full letter below] is a message recommending that we “appeal the strike” in any future incidents we feel are unjust. However, this appeal process, known as a “DMCA counter-notification” is the exact venue we used to challenge the video’s original removal. It was when we DID appeal that You Tube ruled to freeze our account; the removal of the video itself was only a strike that would not have closed or frozen our account.

UPDATE: Following the news that TheAlexJonesChannel would be frozen after it attempted to challenge the removal of its video posting of the Apache Helicopter video released through Wikileaks, YouTube contacted us AGAIN and reversed its decision, restoring the video following media criticism.

http://static.infowars.com/2010/11/i/article-images/01yt-restore.jpg

http://www.infowars.com/google-you-tube-ban-alex-jones/

[squarepusher]

eh, well at least they appear to be reasonable. Maybe its the ad revenue the free market generates ...