What is WikiLeaks?

[ghengis86]

COIN, Psy-OP, Disinfo, whistle blowers dream, CIA front, enemy of TPTB, people's hero????

[Dripping Rain]

I think it is disingenuous and ridiculous to associate wikileaks with any of the above descriptions including heroes. because I can bet none of us knows for sure

The more logical question imho should be. What are Wikis sources? are they trustworthy? are they disinfo agents? so we need to concentrate on their sources
and to quote Utah Apocalypse

Currently released so far... 243 / 251,287

Lets just wait and see what else is in there before we make judgement

So theyre questions that only time will answer. But we have to proceed with caution no matter what side of the story you believe

[ghengis86]

the daily bell has had some good articles questioning wikileaks, but their site is down; from the google cache (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ncPXK1uaFXcJ:www.thedailybell.com/1246/Comes-a-Blond-Stranger.html+the+daily+bell+wikileaks&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us):


Comes a Blond Stranger ...
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 – by Staff Report



The two sat quietly in the senior cafeteria in the basement of a big dusty building in Washington DC. It was mid-afternoon, and they nearly were by themselves, drinking coffee. The junior man had invited the senior man. He was eager to impress him.

The junior man had had a thought.

"What if we got a guy," he said in a low tone, "And made him into a star."

"What kind of star?" asked the senior man, encouraged that the junior man was doing some deep thinking. Anyone who "thought" at the Agency in this manner had a leg-up.

"An Internet star," the junior man said. "A dramatic guy with a weird background."

"Actually we've got a guy like that," the senior man said. "We don't but the Aussies do."

"Oh, really?" asked the junior man. "Where'd they get him?"

"He was in trouble in his youth," explained the senior man. "A lot of trouble and eventually they turned him."

"What kind of trouble?"

"He was a big hacker. An ethical hacker, they said. But he was a weird young guy generally. Claimed he went to 30 schools when he was young and lived on the run from his father."

"Sounds interesting," the junior man said. "Is he available to us?"

"They don't know what to do with him. He's meant for big things, but no one knows what."

"But he's still a young guy?"

"Very dramatic. Blond hair. Almost albino. And a low-key personality. Never smiles."

"Damaged, personality, huh. But dramatic."

"The real thing," the senior man said. "Smart as a whip. Probably borderline autistic."

"Sounds perfect," the junior man said enthusiastically. "But it's got be done carefully. And the build-up has to work, too."

"Well," the senior man said, "the build up would have to take place over a period of years."

"Of course," the junior man agreed and sipped some of his coffee before it got cold. "I knew that."

"Of course you did," the senior man said bitingly.

"He's got to have an air of mystery about him," the junior man said.

"Sure," the senior man said. "Just like with Supriem Rockefeller."

"Who?" The junior man was baffled.

"Supriem Rockefeller," the senior man said a little sharply. "The guy doesn't exist but we made him up and now he's all over the Internet."

"Oh," the junior man said vaguely. "Yeah, Supriem. Good job."

"Good job," the senior man said derisively to show he knew the junior man didn't know.

"I mean it's the same sort of idea," the junior man said lamely.

"It worked pretty good," the senior man continued, letting him off the hook. "El Supriem showed up on a lot of alternative news sites. Pretty funny actually."

"That's what you gotta do," the junior man said a little more enthusiastically. "Baffle them, hit 'em on all sides until they have no idea what's true and what it isn't. Discredit them completely, these crazy bloggers. They all work out of their basements anyway."

"Well, Supremo's not real, but this idea of yours – it's interesting."

"You've got the guy," the junior man said. "Sounds like you do. He should have a dramatic name by the way."

"That can be arranged."

"Something that rhymes with, say ... strange," the junior man said. "Just speaking off the cuff, of course. And his background should be as dramatic as possible. You said he was on the run from his father, but maybe he could be on the run from a cult as well."

"Not a bad idea," the senior man agreed.

"He should be a mythic character," the junior man said expansively. He settled back in his chair, too excited to drink more coffee. "He should live on the run, out of suitcases and have homes and apartments in a number of different countries. He should be a self-made millionaire but anti-social. But he should also work well with people even though he shuns them."
more at the link

and here's a more recent story (again, sites down) linked (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/wikileaks-next-target-big-us-bank)
over at ZeroHedge.com.
http://www.thedailybell.com/1561/WikiLeaks-Clever-PsyOps.html

[FrankRep]

Glenn Beck Investigates the Powers and Motivations Behind WikiLeaks
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=270735

[Kludge]

A big flaming ball of gas consuming corrupt governments.

[Teaser Rate]

Wikileaks is a political organization which acquires classified documents from traitorous individuals* and selectively releases them in a manner which best advances their political goals.

They are neither good or evil, they are just a political group using whatever tools they have to push their agenda.

* I believe that giving your country's national security secrets to a foreign organization falls under treason, whether it's moral or not is another issue.

[eOs]

Assange is someone who your children will not be reading about in their government approved school text books.

[Jordan]

Assange is someone who your children will not be reading about in their government approved school text books.

I'm sure he'd make a guest appearance if he was first labeled as a foreign terrorist.

[BuddyRey]

Julian Assange is this generation's Woodward and Bernstein. The only reason the media hates him so much is because he is doing their own job for them and making them look all the more corrupt, lazy, and cowardly by comparison.

[oyarde]

I could be wrong , but suspect there is some collectivist agenda behind that . I do not know what they may be sitting on , but have learned nothing of merit from what has been released .

[ghengis86]

Dominant Social Theme: Julian Assange is a low-life, thieving sexual pervert who has placed US security at risk, endangered the lives of hardworking US bureaucrats, shown us what the Internet really is (a place good only for use by thieving, sexual perverts who want to put the hard-working men and women of the US State Dept at risk.) The Pentagon should immediately tighten its security, refuse further requests for information and draw up plans to bomb Iran.

Free-Market Analysis: Is Julian Assange the rebel-with-a-cause that he makes himself out to be? We gave him the benefit of the doubt for months, and still do, but with less and less certainty. We don't remember when our suspicions became more pronounced, but (credit where credit is due) the ever-sleuthing blogger and Bell feedbacker Lila Rajiva was there before us, believing for one reason or another that Assange was part of a larger disinformation campaign by the powers-that-be.

Now we are not willing to suggest this is a certainty (and maybe Ms. Rajiva is still not certain either.) But every time his WikiLeaks does another one of these data dumps, Assange takes another step backward in our view. Back in July after a massive WikiLeaks "dump" seemed to set a narrative that Pakistan was at fault for the Afghan war, we'd had enough and wrote a fictional narrative in which we imagined two CIA agents coming up with the idea for an Assange-like character. You can read our analysis here: Comes a Blond Stranger.

This latest effort by Assange raises even more doubts so far as we are concerned. First, there is the constant (annoying) advance dissemination of information to the likes of mainstream leftist publications such as the UK Guardian and Le Monde ... and previously to the New York Times. Anyone who believes that the New York Times (or the Guardian for that matter) is not in cahoots with the powers-that-be, has got to be terminally naïve in our opinion. That goes for Assange, too.

Does Assange, for all his apparent cynicism, not get it? He believes that the mainstream media is worth cultivating for his purposes? Apparently, he is fairly sure of their cooperation. Not that Assange puts it that way. There's plenty of information on the Internet about the way the world works. But rather than focus on the mercantilist intrigues of the Anglosphere, which uses the levers of government to advance its own private interests, Assange focuses attention on the government itself with his endless leaks of hundreds of thousands of low-level documents that are somehow "classified."

It's early days and much more is sure to emerge from this latest massive dissemination of raw, "secret" data, but from our point of view the Anglosphere, maybe, doesn't have much to worry about. (We could still be wrong.) Here's the narrative – the COINTELPRO promotion (if that is what is) – as we see it. Below we list the "news" as it pertains to the secret data that's been revealed and then the "result" – which is often favorable to the Anglosphere and its "war on terror" in our humble view ...

• Assange provides various mainstream publications with advance information so they can "break" their stories. RESULT: Wonderful anti-establishment credibility for failing mainstream pubs that are seen more and more as mouthpieces for the elite.

• Information bluntly characterizes foreign leaders and often in a snide or patronizing manner. RESULT: This is terrible for the US diplomatic corp? To get their opinions on world leaders out in an open forum while the foreign leaders themselves have no way to respond? If it is a disinformation campaign, it's a brilliant one.

• The US diplo corps is shown as pleading with allies for more responsibility and less support for terrorism. RESULT: A perception that the Americans seem to be fighting a valiant uphill battle. The world is encouraging terrorism and Foggy Bottom is doing its level best to protect the American people.

• The Chinese are suspected of hacking US computers. RESULT: And how exactly is this a black eye from the Anglosphere's standpoint? The Chinese are "bad guys." This is a negative for the Anglo-American axis how exactly?More at http://www.thedailybell.com/1561/WikiLeaks-Clever-PsyOps.html

[The Dude]

I find it very hard to believe that he is part of a CIA operation. Evidence that has been put out will only fuel the anti-war/imperialism fire and give even more proof to support Ron's noninterventionist views, something the CIA obviously would not want. I think Assange is genuine himself, but I could maybe see information Wikileaks recieves being intentionally false. Even that is difficult to believe, because seeing the US military murder civilians on video and seeing documents reporting backroom dealings and unethical behaviours from our government doesn't exactly rally the populace behind an internationalist agenda.

We'll see. The best has yet to come.

[dannno]

CIA PsyOP Disinfo campaign 5 12.82%

I am flabbergasted at this low statistic.

[FrankRep]

CIA PsyOP Disinfo campaign 5 12.82%

I am flabbergasted at this low statistic.

Missing one thing.

Proof of CIA/PsyOP involvement.

[Andrew-Austin]

The only reason this question has come up is because the leaks have been underwhelming. There can be a host of more probable reasons for that though. I voted "remains to be seen".