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Kludge
11-29-2010, 07:16 PM
MARINETTE, Wis. — An emergency management official in Wisconsin says an armed student has taken hostages inside a high school classroom in Marinette.

Marinette County emergency management director Eric Burmeister says a high school administrator called authorities after 3 p.m. Monday to say an armed student had burst into a classroom. No injuries have been reported.

Burmeister says he’s unsure how many people are in the classroom

http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/29/armed-student-takes-hostages-at-a-high-school-in-wisconsin/

Kludge
11-29-2010, 07:17 PM
Story was reported less than an hour ago. No updates I can find on Google News.

oyarde
11-29-2010, 07:18 PM
23 students , one teacher .

pcosmar
11-29-2010, 07:25 PM
23 students , one teacher .

According to the LA Times.
Odd that an LA California paper would have that when the Duluth site doesn't.

Mach
11-29-2010, 07:26 PM
I wonder what kind of pharmaceuticals he is on?

ItsTime
11-29-2010, 07:27 PM
Placing bets that he is on a heavy Pharm drug that made him snap.

dannno
11-29-2010, 07:28 PM
They said they wanted to put the TSA scanners in high schools..

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who would sign up to check out naked high school students all day.

pcosmar
11-29-2010, 07:29 PM
Several others reporting, but all say an unknown number of hostages.

On a side., there was also a bank robbery in the same area shortly before,

Wonder if they are related.
:(

pcosmar
11-29-2010, 07:31 PM
They said they wanted to put the TSA scanners in high schools..

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who would sign up to check out naked high school students all day.

I think I had that fantasy when I was about 12.

oyarde
11-29-2010, 07:32 PM
According to the LA Times.
Odd that an LA California paper would have that when the Duluth site doesn't.

I found that from an ap reporter . Might try Fox11Online.com in green bay .

pcosmar
11-29-2010, 07:35 PM
I found that from an ap reporter . Might try Fox11Online.com in green bay .

YouTube - Police situation at Marinette High School (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr_O50p1o1I&feature=player_embedded)

The LA story
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/sns-ap-us-wisconsin-classroom-hostages,0,1436526.story

oyarde
11-29-2010, 07:41 PM
Does not really make sense to me yet . He goes in about 3:00 . Cops get a call about 4:00 . Cops have talked to teacher . Cops know who kid is and have talked to his family . No violence . No demands ? You would think a kid would have a list of demands ...

Kludge
11-29-2010, 07:43 PM
Hope he's going to make the end of his potential life entertaining.

Maybe demand the entire police force dance in the HS parking lot nude.

oyarde
11-29-2010, 07:49 PM
Hope he's going to make the end of his potential life entertaining.

Maybe demand the entire police force dance in the HS parking lot nude.

Imagine you are 17 , What would your demands be Kludge ? tell the truth .. :)

Jeremy
11-29-2010, 07:50 PM
Does not really make sense to me yet . He goes in about 3:00 . Cops get a call about 4:00 . Cops have talked to teacher . Cops know who kid is and have talked to his family . No violence . No demands ? You would think a kid would have a list of demands ...

Why would he have demands? He's probably just doing it to do it. My guess is eventually he just gives up.


Hope he's going to make the potential end of his life entertaining.
fixed

Kludge
11-29-2010, 07:52 PM
Imagine you are 17 , What would your demands be Kludge ? tell the truth .. :)

Two years ago? I wanted my dad to quit asking me to visit, especially since it was only because his second wife would always complain to him that our relationship wasn't normal.

Since my school allowed us to not attend so long as we received a C+ or better, I pretty much had everything I wanted.

Kludge
11-29-2010, 07:52 PM
fixed

I'm pretty sure he's looking at enough hard time to end any potential for a dignified life.

oyarde
11-29-2010, 07:54 PM
Why would he have demands? He's probably just doing it to do it. My guess is eventually he just gives up.


fixed

I hope he gives up . I cannot imagine doing something nutty like that ... why would you not have demands if you did ?

oyarde
11-29-2010, 07:55 PM
He has made no threats or demands and armed only with a sidearm .

agitator
11-29-2010, 07:58 PM
Too bad there wasn't a gun free zone surrounding that school.

http://www.mydoorsign.com/img/lg/K/No-Gun-Drugs-School-Sign-K-4030.gif

Kludge
11-29-2010, 07:59 PM
He has made no threats or demands and armed only with a sidearm .

What's the punishment for 23 counts of kidnapping with a lethal weapon?

Jeremy
11-29-2010, 07:59 PM
I'm pretty sure he's looking at enough hard time to end any potential for a dignified life.

You said "potential life." Sounds like you're talking about his parents being naughty in the bedroom... lol

pcosmar
11-29-2010, 08:02 PM
What's the punishment for 23 counts of kidnapping with a lethal weapon?

What if they aren't hostages, but all there supporting Open Carry.

:D
:cool:

oyarde
11-29-2010, 08:03 PM
What's the punishment for 23 counts of kidnapping with a lethal weapon?

I hope he thought about that , but doubtful .

oyarde
11-29-2010, 08:08 PM
Swat team is there now . Would be a good time for him to give up .

pcosmar
11-29-2010, 08:27 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/29/AR2010112901919.html?hpid=topnews

AP -- - Police chief says 5 hostages have been released from high school classroom in Marinette, Wis.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Gunman-Holding-Students-Hostage-At-High-School-In-Marinette-Wisconsin-US/Article/200708415841308?lpos=World_News_Top_Stories_Header _1&lid=ARTICLE_15841308_Gunman_Holding_Students_Hosta ge_At_High_School_In_Marinette%2C_Wisconsin%2C_US

Jordan
11-29-2010, 08:29 PM
I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who would sign up to check out naked high school students all day.

I lol'd.

oyarde
11-29-2010, 08:41 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/29/AR2010112901919.html?hpid=topnews


http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Gunman-Holding-Students-Hostage-At-High-School-In-Marinette-Wisconsin-US/Article/200708415841308?lpos=World_News_Top_Stories_Header _1&lid=ARTICLE_15841308_Gunman_Holding_Students_Hosta ge_At_High_School_In_Marinette%2C_Wisconsin%2C_US

I wonder what his angle is ? Why not surrender and release them all. I do not think he should wait for the swat team to get irritated .

BuddyRey
11-29-2010, 08:44 PM
Wait! That can't happen! This is a "gun-free zone"!!! ;):D

pcosmar
11-29-2010, 08:47 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/all-hostages-released-at-marinette-high-school-in-wisconsin/story-e6frf7jx-1225963285127


ALL hostages have been released from a high school classroom where an armed student had been holding 23 students and a teacher in Wisconsin, police say.
http://www.wfrv.com/news/local/111004284.html



MARINETTE, Wis. (WFRV) -- Further information in the hostage situation in Marinette has been released by Marinette Police Chief Jeff Skorik at a press conference held at 6:45 p.m.

The hostage situation at Marinette High School has been resolved, all hostages have been released.

BlackTerrel
11-29-2010, 08:48 PM
I have no sympathy for this kid and could care less what happens to him.

Hope the other kids make it out ok.

oyarde
11-29-2010, 08:53 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/all-hostages-released-at-marinette-high-school-in-wisconsin/story-e6frf7jx-1225963285127


http://www.wfrv.com/news/local/111004284.html

Excellent .

BlackTerrel
11-29-2010, 09:24 PM
ALL hostages have been released from a high school classroom where an armed student had been holding 23 students and a teacher in Wisconsin, police say.

Thank God

dannno
11-29-2010, 09:36 PM
Ok good, now what's the media's undoubtedly slanted narrative on this guy?

Dripping Rain
11-29-2010, 09:47 PM
thank God this had a H:)ppy ending

oyarde
11-29-2010, 09:49 PM
Ok good, now what's the media's undoubtedly slanted narrative on this guy?

At the time he gave up the first hostages , cops said , still no motive .

pcosmar
11-29-2010, 09:51 PM
Ok good, now what's the media's undoubtedly slanted narrative on this guy?

No Idea,
There were no demands, and no one was harmed.
Perhaps some intelligent individual was able to break his programing and defuse him.
I suspect the rest of the story will be out of the media.

TC95
11-29-2010, 09:55 PM
If only they had sacrificed liberty for security. A naked body scanner would have easily picked this up. :rolleyes:

jclay2
11-29-2010, 09:57 PM
No Idea,
There were no demands, and no one was harmed.
Perhaps some intelligent individual was able to break his programing and defuse him.
I suspect the rest of the story will be out of the media.

Foolish policeman! Did he realize how much of a risk he took by not sending swat in to eliminate the threat! They are very lucky nothing serious happened. /endsarcasm

pcosmar
11-29-2010, 10:43 PM
A late twist.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/29/AR2010112901919.html?hpid=topnews

MARINETTE, Wis. -- Chief: Armed student shot himself after police broke into Wis. classroom, condition unknown
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hjgwmpyx3nVAjwarb4o2s5XzK9pA?docId=c5ce5f8d4 45c4eb8825c355e107a447d

Chief: Armed student in Wis. high school shot self

(AP) – 4 hours ago

MARINETTE, Wis. (AP) — A student armed with a handgun held nearly two dozen students and a teacher hostage in a Wisconsin high school for about five hours before shooting himself when police broke into the classroom, authorities said Monday. No other injuries were reported.

Officers who were outside the Marinette High School classroom said they heard three gunshots shortly after 8 p.m. and busted through the door, said Police Chief Jeff Skorik. The 15-year-old male gunman then shot himself.

Skorik said the teen was taken to an area hospital and his condition was not immediately known Monday night.

Five of the 23 students who had been taken hostage about 3 p.m. had been released about 20 minutes before police entered the classroom because they told the gunman they had to use the bathroom, Skorik said.

The other 18 students and the female teacher, who had acted as a mediator between the male hostage-taker and authorities, were released unharmed once officers were inside.

Skorik said the gunman had refused to communicate with officials during the standoff, but allowed the teacher to speak with authorities by phone.

Earlier reports said NO shots were fired, and NO injuries.
I guess we will never know his story.
Dead men tell no tales.

dannno
11-29-2010, 11:12 PM
A late twist.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/29/AR2010112901919.html?hpid=topnews

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hjgwmpyx3nVAjwarb4o2s5XzK9pA?docId=c5ce5f8d4 45c4eb8825c355e107a447d


Earlier reports said NO shots were fired, and NO injuries.
I guess we will never know his story.
Dead men tell no tales.

Hmmm, he must have disobeyed and not smoked the joint they gave him to smoke before the incident, so they had to kill him so they could immediately inject some THC into his bloodstream.

BlackTerrel
11-29-2010, 11:24 PM
A late twist.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/29/AR2010112901919.html?hpid=topnews

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hjgwmpyx3nVAjwarb4o2s5XzK9pA?docId=c5ce5f8d4 45c4eb8825c355e107a447d


Earlier reports said NO shots were fired, and NO injuries.
I guess we will never know his story.
Dead men tell no tales.

Who cares what his story is? Dude's life sucked so he took 20 kids hostage?

Your life sucks kill yourself and save the drama. Don't take others down with you like the VA Tech guy.

pcosmar
11-29-2010, 11:43 PM
Who cares what his story is? Dude's life sucked so he took 20 kids hostage?

Your life sucks kill yourself and save the drama. Don't take others down with you like the VA Tech guy.

The human mind is amazing. But some years ago millions was spent on techniques to control and manipulate it.
Successfully. and repeatedly.
Several of these events share some of the same signatures.

:(

Anti Federalist
11-30-2010, 12:09 AM
Who cares what his story is? Dude's life sucked so he took 20 kids hostage?

Your life sucks kill yourself and save the drama. Don't take others down with you like the VA Tech guy.

There is always much, much, much, more to these stories than what they appear on the surface, i.e.; a lone nut out to kill himself and a bunch of people around him.

pcosmar
11-30-2010, 12:13 AM
There is always much, much, much, more to these stories than what they appear on the surface, i.e.; a lone nut out to kill himself and a bunch of people around him.

Especially the part about shooting himself three times. And that being reported after it was reported that no one was harmed.
:(

Standing Like A Rock
11-30-2010, 01:47 PM
Especially the part about shooting himself three times. And that being reported after it was reported that no one was harmed.
:(

How exactly does one shoot one's self three times. Unless you were aiming only to wound yourself the first two times. But who would do that?

pcosmar
11-30-2010, 02:50 PM
How exactly does one shoot one's self three times. Unless you were aiming only to wound yourself the first two times. But who would do that?

Gee,
What an interesting question.
I have no logical answer, nor can I conceive of one.

BlackTerrel
12-01-2010, 12:21 AM
Especially the part about shooting himself three times. And that being reported after it was reported that no one was harmed.
:(

Everytime there is a big event the first reports are off. Just like when 9/11 first happened there were 40,000 dead and it settled on 3,000. Or during the tsunami, or hurricane katrina.

Doesn't mean it's a conspiracy. Most times idiots are just idiots.

Kregisen
12-01-2010, 01:35 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/wisconsin-student-shoots-himself-hostages-freed/19737706


Principal Lambie said a critical response team will meet Wednesday morning to discuss the hostage situation. Administrators will review potential changes, such as the possibility of adding metal detectors to the school, he said.

Because a metal detector is definitely going to stop a depressed highschooler with a gun, just like the "gun free zone" signs did.

Fucking dumbasses.

Kludge
12-01-2010, 04:11 AM
One thing I loved about my high school being near a corn field - almost no security.... until Junior/Senior year when they started having drug-sniffing dogs come in at random and began doing "locker inspections." :rolleyes:

The WI school will be re-opened today. I heard nothing else on the story except that students tried to keep the shooter calm by discussing hunting/fishing with him. I'd guess something terrible happened at home.

oyarde
12-01-2010, 06:44 PM
One thing I loved about my high school being near a corn field - almost no security.... until Junior/Senior year when they started having drug-sniffing dogs come in at random and began doing "locker inspections." :rolleyes:

The WI school will be re-opened today. I heard nothing else on the story except that students tried to keep the shooter calm by discussing hunting/fishing with him. I'd guess something terrible happened at home.

Never put the stash in a locker .

Kludge
12-01-2010, 07:01 PM
Never put the stash in a locker .

In my government class, a dumbass left his bag of weed in class. The next day, the teacher told him he found his bag (it was under his desk) and sent it to the lost&found. The kid left class, presumably to go pick it up.

oyarde
12-01-2010, 07:07 PM
In my government class, a dumbass left his bag of weed in class. The next day, the teacher told him he found his bag (it was under his desk) and sent it to the lost&found. The kid left class, presumably to go pick it up.

I always kept mine in my car . In those days , nobody would have aven attempted to try and search your vehicle .

oyarde
12-01-2010, 07:12 PM
Govt. class and weed do kind of go together .

sratiug
12-01-2010, 07:16 PM
Everytime there is a big event the first reports are off. Just like when 9/11 first happened there were 40,000 dead and it settled on 3,000. Or during the tsunami, or hurricane katrina.

Doesn't mean it's a conspiracy. Most times idiots are just idiots.

And sometimes they can see into the future.

Kludge
12-01-2010, 07:19 PM
Whatever happened to Weatherbill?

dannno
12-01-2010, 07:20 PM
Govt. class and weed do kind of go together .

lol, weed goes well with everything.

Kludge
12-05-2010, 02:23 AM
http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/05/big-crowd-expected-at-wis-hostage-takers-funeral/

"Services for 15-year-old Sam Hengel are set for Sunday afternoon at a high school auditorium in Menominee, Mich. The town is just across the river from Marinette, Wis., where Hengel held 26 classmates and his teacher hostage for six hours on Monday.

He shot himself when a SWAT team stormed the room.

His motivations for the standoff remain unknown. Classmates and teachers say he was well liked and had a lot of friends."

Anyone find a more detailed write-up about the kid? I find this story very interesting.