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PatriotOne
11-29-2010, 01:11 PM
Michael Rivero

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/comidwiki.php

Wikileaks, following much media fanfare (reason for suspicion right there) has just released a huge number of documents supposedly leaked to WikiLeaks and no other websites'. The media is denouncing this as a threat to the United States while US politicians wring their hands and wonder when they will be free of the curse of the First Amendment and all that troublesome nonsense about Freedom of Speech. Many observers think this is a propaganda set up and that neither Julian Assange or WikiLaeks should be taken at face value. After all, Julian Assange keeps insisting there was no 9-11 conspiracy and the 9-11 truth movement a "distraction." Apparently Julian Assange has patented conspiracy and nobody else may expose one except himself!

Of course, there is really not that much that is new in this latest dump. Like prior WikiLeaks dumps, most of it is old news mixed with some rather dubious claims. In his last such dump, Julian Assange included a claim that Osama bin Laden is still alive and controlling Al Qaeda. Of course, it is well documented outside the United States that Osama bin Laden has been dead for many years and that Al Qaeda itself is a fake front group created to hoax Americans into endless wars of conquest, much as the fictional Emmanuel Goldstein was used in George Orwell's "1984."

In yet another infamous propaganda attempt, WikiLeaks tried to claim that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq, justifying the invasion. No such weapons were ever found.

As for the present batch of documents, again it is a rehash of stories already known to the blog-o-sphere. Even those people who did not know US diplomats spy on their United Nations counterparts did not find it surprising or in any way a new idea.

So what is the real purpose of Assange's little charade? Propaganda.

Propaganda is like rat poison. 95% of it is tasty, healthy food. But the purpose is to get you to swallow the poison. The same is true of the WikiLeaks document dump. The bait are all these old stories which we already knew about, used to convince us that the entire pile is "tasty, healthy food," except that it isn't. Buried in the pile of delicious, albeit past the expiration date morsels are the bits of poison which the US Government knows you will no longer accept at face value from the controlled media, but hope you will eat if handed to you by a con artist posing as hostile to the government.

So, given that 95% of the current WikiLeaks is really old news, as a public service I will point out the bits of poison that Julian hopes you will eat.

1. Iran is bad so you should all want to kill them.

2. Saudi Arabia is bad because they are funding Al Qaeda so you should all want to kill them.

3. North Korea is bad because they gave really long range missiles to Iran for Iran to put their nuclear warheads in, so you should all want to kill them.

4. China is messing with your computers, so you should all want to kill them.

That about sums it up. Oh yes, there is nothing negative about Israel in all these diplomatic messages, an impossibility given the lethal Israeli attack on the Aid Flotilla last May. That suggests who Assange really works for.

Funny thing about rat poison. After a while the rats learn to eat the food and leave the poison behind.

Reason
11-29-2010, 01:16 PM
Michael Rivero

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/comidwiki.php (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/comidwiki.php)

Wikileaks, following much media fanfare (reason for suspicion right there) has just released a huge number of documents supposedly leaked to WikiLeaks and no other websites'. The media is denouncing this as a threat to the United States while US politicians wring their hands and wonder when they will be free of the curse of the First Amendment and all that troublesome nonsense about Freedom of Speech. Many observers think this is a propaganda set up and that neither Julian Assange or WikiLaeks should be taken at face value. After all, Julian Assange keeps insisting there was no 9-11 conspiracy and the 9-11 truth movement a "distraction." Apparently Julian Assange has patented conspiracy and nobody else may expose one except himself!

Of course, there is really not that much that is new in this latest dump. Like prior WikiLeaks dumps, most of it is old news mixed with some rather dubious claims. In his last such dump, Julian Assange included a claim that Osama bin Laden is still alive and controlling Al Qaeda. Of course, it is well documented outside the United States that Osama bin Laden has been dead for many years and that Al Qaeda itself is a fake front group created to hoax Americans into endless wars of conquest, much as the fictional Emmanuel Goldstein was used in George Orwell's "1984."

In yet another infamous propaganda attempt, WikiLeaks tried to claim that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq, justifying the invasion. No such weapons were ever found.

As for the present batch of documents, again it is a rehash of stories already known to the blog-o-sphere. Even those people who did not know US diplomats spy on their United Nations counterparts did not find it surprising or in any way a new idea.

So what is the real purpose of Assange's little charade? Propaganda.

Propaganda is like rat poison. 95% of it is tasty, healthy food. But the purpose is to get you to swallow the poison. The same is true of the WikiLeaks document dump. The bait are all these old stories which we already knew about, used to convince us that the entire pile is "tasty, healthy food," except that it isn't. Buried in the pile of delicious, albeit past the expiration date morsels are the bits of poison which the US Government knows you will no longer accept at face value from the controlled media, but hope you will eat if handed to you by a con artist posing as hostile to the government.

So, given that 95% of the current WikiLeaks is really old news, as a public service I will point out the bits of poison that Julian hopes you will eat.

1. Iran is bad so you should all want to kill them.

2. Saudi Arabia is bad because they are funding Al Qaeda so you should all want to kill them.

3. North Korea is bad because they gave really long range missiles to Iran for Iran to put their nuclear warheads in, so you should all want to kill them.

4. China is messing with your computers, so you should all want to kill them.

That about sums it up. Oh yes, there is nothing negative about Israel in all these diplomatic messages, an impossibility given the lethal Israeli attack on the Aid Flotilla last May. That suggests who Assange really works for.

Funny thing about rat poison. After a while the rats learn to eat the food and leave the poison behind.

http://cryptome.org/

RonPaulCult
11-29-2010, 01:38 PM
So the military video that shows the US killing civilians....that was US propaganda too?

It must be SO NICE to be so certain of what is going on. To be so confident. To know everything.

The truth is - none of us know the truth. Wikileaks may be legit - it may be CIA - we just don't know.

Kotin
11-29-2010, 01:53 PM
So the military video that shows the US killing civilians....that was US propaganda too?

It must be SO NICE to be so certain of what is going on. To be so confident. To know everything.

The truth is - none of us know the truth. Wikileaks may be legit - it may be CIA - we just don't know.

+1

jmdrake
11-29-2010, 01:56 PM
So the military video that shows the US killing civilians....that was US propaganda too?

It must be SO NICE to be so certain of what is going on. To be so confident. To know everything.

The truth is - none of us know the truth. Wikileaks may be legit - it may be CIA - we just don't know.

I think Michael Rivero would call that "food" that we already knew about. (Probably not that particular killing, but there was plenty of other intel about killing civilians in general).

That said, just because some diplomat "secretly" wrote something doesn't mean that "secret" cable was true. What's more interesting than the "anti Iran" cables are the "admissions against interest". (Such as the government possibly helping the PKK.) And certainly it's possible that fake stories were "planted" hoping that they would eventually leak out. That's certainly going to happen going forward.

Anyway, I don't doubt the Saudis might fund Al Qaeda. After all our own government has been accused of supporting Al Qaeda linked groups against Iran.

Vessol
11-29-2010, 01:58 PM
Take it as it is. There will be outrage for a little bit, then it'll just disappear into the fog of the news stream by the latest bullshit news and all that. It really revealed nothing new.

Dripping Rain
11-29-2010, 02:32 PM
legit concerns by Rivero
i dont know if theyre cia
but what if they fed assange 90% true 10% fake info?

charrob
11-29-2010, 03:02 PM
Take it as it is. There will be outrage for a little bit, then it'll just disappear into the fog of the news stream by the latest bullshit news and all that. It really revealed nothing new.

It might not have revealed anything new, however, it puts in writing many things alot of us knew but couldn't prove. For example, that Americans were air-bombing and droning Yemen-- we knew that but didn't have it in writing. Also that Israel was pressuring the U.S. to land-invade Iran and force a regime change: we knew that, but now it's in writing. Plus all of this week there will be more of the cables released, so we don't know yet what's coming.

sofia
11-29-2010, 03:41 PM
Wiki = CIA/Mossad

There is NO doubt about this. The true target of this disinfo is policy makers in Europe.

Notice how the media hypes "leaks" from Wiki...but totally buried the leaks that exposed Global Warming Hoax

sevin
11-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Wow. It seems the subject of whether Wikileaks CIA/Israel/whatever or not is going to be a very divisive issue on this forum.