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nbruno322
11-28-2010, 12:32 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-cables-data

Cheers, check out this trove of info and download the files above!!


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/11/23/1290535112905/Wikileaks-cables-breakdow-008.jpg

UtahApocalypse
11-28-2010, 12:45 PM
Question: If these are "State Secrets" and "illegal" as told by the U.S. State department how the hell could the NEW YORK TIMES release them?


Answer that and you will see the truth hidden inside the smoke

libertybrewcity
11-28-2010, 12:50 PM
they won't even post the full documents "for obvious security reasons" psshh

pcosmar
11-28-2010, 12:52 PM
Question: If these are "State Secrets" and "illegal" as told by the U.S. State department how the hell could the NEW YORK TIMES release them?


Answer that and you will see the truth hidden inside the smoke

They didn't "release" them. Nor did they steal them, collect them.
They are reporting them.
As they should.

unfortunately they will likely try to "spin" them as well.

RM918
11-28-2010, 12:52 PM
they won't even post the full documents "for obvious security reasons" psshh

Someone will.

libertybrewcity
11-28-2010, 12:54 PM
ooooooooo
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-cables-spying-un

Xchange
11-28-2010, 12:54 PM
a little bit from the NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/29cables.html?hp

VBRonPaulFan
11-28-2010, 12:56 PM
it's about time someone started doing this shit

Thomas
11-28-2010, 12:58 PM
i'm donating to wikileaks again!

AGRP
11-28-2010, 12:58 PM
Question: If these are "State Secrets" and "illegal" as told by the U.S. State department how the hell could the NEW YORK TIMES release them?


Answer that and you will see the truth hidden inside the smoke


That's how the corporate/government media game is played.

When a Republican is in office it's "war monger! war monger! war monger!" and everything/anything goes when attacking the president/those on Capital Hill about accusing them of being war mongers.

When a Democrat is in office it's "socialist! socialist! socialist!" and everything/anything goes when attacking the president/those on Capital Hill about accusing them of being socialists.


They don't dare accuse a Democrat of any war mongering or any Republican of any "socialism." We're supposed to be led to believe that Obama is Ghandi and Bush is Reagan, so accusing Obama of even being at war is a sin. Their (the media/government/corporate media/NYT) job is to keep the Dem/Rep story lines going, even though both parties are the same.

The NYT/medias job is to keep the world is essentially at peace story line going during this Obama Administration. Wiki leaks is throwing a wrench into their agenda. Wikileaks is the proverbial woman who threw the hammer in the 1984 apple commercial.

Dripping Rain
11-28-2010, 01:01 PM
are the guardian and the ny times offering links for download? LMAO
This is like downloading COD Black Ops from hackingidiots.com lol

Dripping Rain
11-28-2010, 01:04 PM
Question: If these are "State Secrets" and "illegal" as told by the U.S. State department how the hell could the NEW YORK TIMES release them?


Answer that and you will see the truth hidden inside the smoke

yes it all doesnt make any sense. didnt a nytimes reporter go to prison for something much much smaller a few years ago?

Fredom101
11-28-2010, 01:12 PM
That's how the corporate/government media game is played.

When a Republican is in office it's "war monger! war monger! war monger!" and everything/anything goes when attacking the president/those on Capital Hill about accusing them of being war mongers.

When a Democrat is in office it's "socialist! socialist! socialist!" and everything/anything goes when attacking the president/those on Capital Hill about accusing them of being socialists.


They don't dare accuse a Democrat of any war mongering or any Republican of any "socialism." We're supposed to be led to believe that Obama is Ghandi and Bush is Reagan, so accusing Obama of even being at war is a sin. Their (the media/government/corporate media/NYT) job is to keep the Dem/Rep story lines going, even though both parties are the same.

The NYT/medias job is to keep the world is essentially at peace story line going during this Obama Administration. Wiki leaks is throwing a wrench into their agenda. Wikileaks is the proverbial woman who threw the hammer in the 1984 apple commercial.

Wow, that was a great post, thanks! Except, I wouldn't put Reagan on any pedestal whatsoever...he's largely responsible for the insane deficits the government has created. But overall, I do agree with your point. :)

libertybrewcity
11-28-2010, 01:12 PM
How the information was leaked.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/28/how-us-embassy-cables-leaked

puppetmaster
11-28-2010, 01:17 PM
I am sure our gov will use this to apply more regulation and censor the web.

Baptist
11-28-2010, 01:23 PM
Will Wikileaks make these available on their website? Or do we have to go through one of these media companies that are sure to filter some files?

UtahApocalypse
11-28-2010, 01:31 PM
yes it all doesnt make any sense. didnt a nytimes reporter go to prison for something much much smaller a few years ago?

Also think about this as well: yesterday the U.S. was able to force ICANN (through U.S. warrants) to seize over DNS of domains of websites selling knock-off purses and shoes. This includes many not actually hosted in the U.S.

If they have that much control of the net the EASILY could have Wikileaks shut down as well.... but do not.


are the guardian and the ny times offering links for download? LMAO
This is like downloading COD Black Ops from hackingidiots.com lol

LOL great way to look at at

RM918
11-28-2010, 01:33 PM
Also think about this as well: yesterday the U.S. was able to force ICANN (through U.S. warrants) to seize over DNS of domains of websites selling knock-off purses and shoes. This includes many not actually hosted in the U.S.

If they have that much control of the net the EASILY could have Wikileaks shut down as well.... but do not.



LOL great way to look at at

Well, what'd be the point of shutting down Wikileaks? They'd just pop up somewhere else.

CanadaBoy
11-28-2010, 01:33 PM
Download the insurance file:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5723136/WikiLeaks_insurance

libertybrewcity
11-28-2010, 01:46 PM
Download the insurance file:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5723136/WikiLeaks_insurance

there's no point if you can't even open it without decrypting software. if the time came to open it, it would be all over the web. it's just 1+ extra gb on your comp

revolutionary8
11-28-2010, 01:57 PM
I am sure our gov will use this to apply more regulation and censor the web.
Yes.Feds Seizes Websites Suspected of Online Piracy
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/27/feds-seizes-websites-suspected-online-piracy/
Also:
http://cryptome.org/0003/wikileaks-history.htm

Assange and the security wizards advising Wikileaks are unusually gifted at long-range deception and protection, some sell those arcane and lucrative services to spies, governments, banks, businesses, billionaires and other criminal cartels -- and give freely to those targetted by highly-profitable and nutty secrecy peddlers. A few provide operational security for the Internet and digital communications and know their weaknesses and strengths, hideaways and byways for genuine and phony actionable intelligence, financial lawful and outlaw rings and where their dirty money is hidden. Yes, among them are ex-NSA officials and their exceptionally adept contract researchers as unbound by NDAs and secrecy agreements as Bradley Manning and others deeper inside not yet unveiled. What they know is what James Bamford in "The Puzzle Palace" (paper, p. 461) explores of the NSA dilemma of what to do with data gathered on corrupt officials in the US and elsewhere other than bury it as unminizable foreign intelligence despite pleas from law enforcement agencies.

An NSA article,"Toward a Taxonomy of Secrets," outlines the grand scope of the ever-expanding cult of self-serving secrecy with guardedly useful apologia for the practice:

http://cryptome.org/0003/secrets-taxonomy.htm

The article is unclassified thus advertizes not telling the whole truth, please pay for that to "keep us strong." Insurance codephrases for the practice of deception in the spirit of asymmetrical open source, you give freely we profit

How much of the released documentation has been counter intelligence and disinfo?

revolutionary8
11-28-2010, 02:17 PM
26 November 2010. Related:

Toward a Taxonomy of Secrets: http://cryptome.org/0003/secrets-taxonomy.htm

24 November 2010

Wikileaks Secret Dreams


If the next big Wikileaks dump is composed of State Department cables what then is in the insurance.aes256 file or other information reserved for protection against shutdown?

It would be foolish of Wikileaks to release all it has and lose the protection of threatening future releases.

The size of the encrypted 1.2GB insurance file might fit thousands of cables but it might contain other material not yet publicly disclosed.

Wikileaks reportedly has hundreds of other files which have been received but not published because of the attention given to the Afghan and Iraq war files.

Files on other governments have been mentioned: Russia, China, European and Asian nations.

What would be impressive would be files on North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and perhaps most signficantly, Israel -- its weaponry, war plans, assassination squads, foreign sources of funds, Mossad and its collaborators.

Files on weapons of mass destruction, nuclear, biological, chemical, radiological. Top secret files of the IAEA on nuclear non-proliferation contributed and deceptively withheld by a bevy of nations, i.e., the CIA's Valerie Plame and related front companies.

Files of global WMD research laboratories and the status of reserve stocks of offensive and defensive weapons.

War plans of all nations, for and against one another.

Reports and training literature on black prisons and torture chambers held by and shared among military and spy agencies.

Files of clandestine spy agencies and their operatives.

Files on human rights abuses, for example, secret Red Cross reports on visits to the world's prisons.

Files of billionaire political meddlers.

Files of the major world banks and their attorneys.

Files of national tax agencies.

Perhaps the crown jewels would be the volumnious archives of The Vatican's two millennia of worldwide complicity with the globe's most evil empires. Second best, the Islamic version.

But why stop with information of exaggerated importance hoarded and bragged about by simple-minded secretkeepers?

Dream of what else should be known but has been forever out of reach. What nightmare would most terrify fabricators and marketers of deepest secrets? Even demolish newby Wikileaks and its venerable media and governmental collaborators now paranoically plotting secretly with and against each other what would best advance their mutual interests.

Secrecy begets ever more secrecy. Dream of the end of secrecy.

http://cryptome.org/0003/wikileaks-dreams.htm

I guess time will tell if any of the above issues have been part of the latest leak...

Matt Collins
11-28-2010, 02:21 PM
Some selected "CliffNotes" from the NY Slimes:



The cables, a huge sampling of the daily traffic between the State Department and some 270 embassies and consulates, amount to a secret chronicle of the United States’ relations with the world in an age of war and terrorism. Among their revelations, to be detailed in The Times in coming days:

¶ A dangerous standoff with Pakistan over nuclear fuel: Since 2007, the United States has mounted a highly secret effort, so far unsuccessful, to remove from a Pakistani research reactor highly enriched uranium that American officials fear could be diverted for use in an illicit nuclear device. In May 2009, Ambassador Anne W. Patterson reported that Pakistan was refusing to schedule a visit by American technical experts because, as a Pakistani official said, “if the local media got word of the fuel removal, ‘they certainly would portray it as the United States taking Pakistan’s nuclear weapons,’ he argued.”

¶ Gaming out an eventual collapse of North Korea: American and South Korean officials have discussed the prospects for a unified Korea, should the North’s economic troubles and political transition lead the state to implode. The South Koreans even considered commercial inducements to China, according to the American ambassador to Seoul. She told Washington in February that South Korean officials believe that the right business deals would “help salve” China’s “concerns about living with a reunified Korea” that is in a “benign alliance” with the United States.

¶ Bargaining to empty the Guantánamo Bay prison: When American diplomats pressed other countries to resettle detainees, they became reluctant players in a State Department version of “Let’s Make a Deal.” Slovenia was told to take a prisoner if it wanted to meet with President Obama, while the island nation of Kiribati was offered incentives worth millions of dollars to take in Chinese Muslim detainees, cables from diplomats recounted. The Americans, meanwhile, suggested that accepting more prisoners would be “a low-cost way for Belgium to attain prominence in Europe.”

¶ Suspicions of corruption in the Afghan government: When Afghanistan’s vice president visited the United Arab Emirates last year, local authorities working with the Drug Enforcement Administration (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/d/drug_enforcement_administration/index.html?inline=nyt-org) discovered that he was carrying $52 million in cash. With wry understatement, a cable from the American Embassy in Kabul called the money “a significant amount” that the official, Ahmed Zia Massoud, “was ultimately allowed to keep without revealing the money’s origin or destination.” (Mr. Massoud denies taking any money out of Afghanistan.)

¶ A global computer hacking effort: China’s Politburo directed the intrusion into Google’s computer systems in that country, a Chinese contact told the American Embassy in Beijing in January, one cable reported. The Google hacking was part of a coordinated campaign of computer sabotage carried out by government operatives, private security experts and Internet outlaws recruited by the Chinese government. They have broken into American government computers and those of Western allies, the Dalai Lama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/d/_dalai_lama/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and American businesses since 2002, cables said.

¶ Mixed records against terrorism: Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of Sunni militant groups like Al Qaeda (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/a/al_qaeda/index.html?inline=nyt-org), and the tiny Persian Gulf state of Qatar, a generous host to the American military for years, was the “worst in the region” in counterterrorism efforts, according to a State Department cable last December. Qatar’s security service was “hesitant to act against known terrorists out of concern for appearing to be aligned with the U.S. and provoking reprisals,” the cable said.

¶ An intriguing alliance: American diplomats in Rome reported in 2009 on what their Italian contacts described as an extraordinarily close relationship between Vladimir V. Putin (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/vladimir_v_putin/index.html?inline=nyt-per), the Russian prime minister, and Silvio Berlusconi (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/silvio_berlusconi/index.html?inline=nyt-per), the Italian prime minister and business magnate, including “lavish gifts,” lucrative energy contracts and a “shadowy” Russian-speaking Italian go-between. They wrote that Mr. Berlusconi “appears increasingly to be the mouthpiece of Putin” in Europe. The diplomats also noted that while Mr. Putin enjoys supremacy over all other public figures in Russia, he is undermined by an unmanageable bureaucracy that often ignores his edicts.



¶ Arms deliveries to militants: Cables describe the United States’ failing struggle to prevent Syria from supplying arms to Hezbollah (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/h/hezbollah/index.html?inline=nyt-org) in Lebanon, which has amassed a huge stockpile since its 2006 war with Israel. One week after President Bashar al-Assad (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/a/bashar_al_assad/index.html?inline=nyt-per) promised a top State Department official that he would not send “new” arms to Hezbollah, the United States complained that it had information that Syria was providing increasingly sophisticated weapons to the group.



¶ Clashes with Europe over human rights: American officials sharply warned Germany in 2007 not to enforce arrest warrants for Central Intelligence Agency (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/c/central_intelligence_agency/index.html?inline=nyt-org) officers involved in a bungled operation in which an innocent German citizen with the same name as a suspected militant was mistakenly kidnapped and held for months in Afghanistan. A senior American diplomat told a German official “that our intention was not to threaten Germany, but rather to urge that the German government weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S.”

SOURCE:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/29cables.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&hp

Matt Collins
11-28-2010, 02:23 PM
"Too Many Secrets"

youngbuck
11-28-2010, 04:58 PM
Clashes with Europe over human rights: American officials sharply warned Germany in 2007 not to enforce arrest warrants for Central Intelligence Agency (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/c/central_intelligence_agency/index.html?inline=nyt-org) officers involved in a bungled operation in which an innocent German citizen with the same name as a suspected militant was mistakenly kidnapped and held for months in Afghanistan. A senior American diplomat told a German official “that our intention was not to threaten Germany, but rather to urge that the German government weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S.”

Wow, that's pretty messed up.

randomname
11-28-2010, 05:19 PM
The Australian communications regulator has issued a stark warning that websites who link out to 'banned' hyperlinks are liable to fines of up to Aus $11,000 a day.

The news comes after web forum Whirlpool was threatened with the fine for posting a hyperlink to a blacklisted anti-abortion website.

Wikileaks blacklisted

One of the newest additions to Australia's 'blacklisted hyperlinks' list is Wikileaks; the website that publishes anonymous submissions of sensitive info on everything from corporations, religion and governments.

The blacklisting of certain pages of the site has come about after Wikileaks posted a list of websites at the tail end of 2008 that comprised the 'secret internet censorship' list for Denmark. On this list were over 3,500 sites that were censored or banned in the country.

Disturbing picture

While Australia's list of blacklisted sites currently stands at 1,370, the Sydney Morning Herald is reporting that that list could increase to around 10,000 sites – most of which are of illegal pornographic content, but could also includes sites that house incendiary political discussions.

"The Government is embarking on a deeply unpopular and troubling experiment to fine-tune its ability to censor the internet," said communications spokesman Senator Scott Ludlam of Australian opposition party Greens.

"If you consider this kind of net censorship in the context of Australia's anti-terror laws, it paints a disturbing picture indeed."

On its website, Wikileaks, which leaked the news that the government had banned it for leaking information, simply said: "The first rule of censorship is that you cannot talk about censorship."

Currently, it is not illegal for internet users in Australia to click on the sites found on the web blacklist. The people targeted by the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) are webmasters linking out to the sites that the government have flagged up as inappropriate.

This could all change, however, if a mandatory internet filtering censorship scheme is implemented – something that is being debated at the moment.


Read more: http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/australian-government-adds-wikileaks-to-banned-website-list-585894#ixzz16cdZW2a9

Fredom101
11-28-2010, 05:37 PM
Where is the wikileaks world changing news?
I feel like there was so much anticipation and hype over this release and we got very little. The US has spies? Saudi Arabia wanted Iran bombed? OMG! None of this is surprising. Is there anything else or has this whole thing been a bust??

vita3
11-28-2010, 05:41 PM
This is great factual back-up to Dr.Paul's foreign policy warnings

tangent4ronpaul
11-28-2010, 05:48 PM
Manning told his correspondent Adrian Lamo, who subsequently denounced him to the authorities: "Hillary Clinton and several thousand diplomats around the world are going to have a heart attack when they wake up one morning and find an entire repository of classified foreign policy is available, in searchable format, to the public ... Everywhere there's a US post, there's a diplomatic scandal that will be revealed. Worldwide anarchy in CSV format ... It's beautiful, and horrifying."

The question is, how much good it will do, if any?

Has anyone picked up any reactions from other governments?

-t

thehighwaymanq
11-28-2010, 05:51 PM
What have we learned? Ron Paul is on point with his information!

libertybrewcity
11-28-2010, 06:08 PM
Where is the wikileaks world changing news?
I feel like there was so much anticipation and hype over this release and we got very little. The US has spies? Saudi Arabia wanted Iran bombed? OMG! None of this is surprising. Is there anything else or has this whole thing been a bust??

The world changing news is on wikileaks, but the servers are blocked because too many people want to look at it.

TNforPaul45
11-28-2010, 06:17 PM
From Drudge Headlines:

"Saudis are chief financiers for al Qaeda..."
YOU THINK?!?!? NOOO!!! THAT'S FREAKIN CRAZY TALK!! THEY'RE FUNDED BY SATAN HIMSELF!!

"Saudis repeatedly urge US attack on Iran..."
REally??? Wonder why that is? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I'm so happy for this release. Keep it coming, Wikileaks. Bring it down! Bring it all down!!

revolutionary8
11-28-2010, 06:54 PM
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/chipped-detainees-iran-mega-missiles-and-more-in-latest-wikileaks/


King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia told a senior White House official to consider surgically implanting homing devices under Guantanamo Bay detainees’ skin. That’s one of the many potentially embarrassing comments from diplomatic back rooms now being made public by WikiLeaks.

During a March 2009 meeting with John Brennan, President Obama’s closest counterterrorism adviser, Abdullah proposed shooting electronic chips into the residual Guantanamo population, “allowing their movements to be tracked with Bluetooth.” Abdullah appears to have come up with the idea on the fly during their meeting — “I’ve just thought of something,” the cable quotes him saying — and considered forced subcutaneous chip implantation uncontroversial, since it’s already “done with horses and falcons.”

Brennan appears to have gingerly waved him off: “[H]orses don’t have good lawyers,” he replied, “but agreed that keeping track of detainees was an extremely important issue that he would review with appropriate officials when he returned to the United States.”

That’s a particularly bizarre proposal revealed inside the third large trove of U.S. secrets the radical anti-secrecy organization WikiLeaks has published in the last six months. This current one — reported on Sunday by the New York Times, Der Spiegel, and the Guardian — centers around more than 250,000 U.S. diplomatic communications, earning the dump a furious condemnation from the State Department and the White House. Our sister blog Threat Level first reported in June that WikiLeaks got ahold of the cables, and reports today on the U.S. information-sharing initiative that made the leak possible.

hazek
11-28-2010, 07:43 PM
WTF my country Slovenia had to "take a prisoner in order to meet with Obama", what kind of bullshit is that?!

Bruno
11-28-2010, 08:46 PM
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/chipped-detainees-iran-mega-missiles-and-more-in-latest-wikileaks/

:eek:

sofia
11-28-2010, 10:43 PM
i am shocked and saddened to see how easily so many of you have been taken in by this "Wikileaks" disinfo mania.

Wiki is a Black Op....the dead giveaway is the international hype it is getting from Establishment Globalist propaganda vehicles such as NY Times, The Guardian, Der Spiegel, Le Monde etc.

Bruno
11-28-2010, 10:47 PM
i am shocked and saddened to see how easily so many of you have been taken in by this "Wikileaks" disinfo mania.

Wiki is a Black Op....the dead giveaway is the international hype it is getting from Establishment Globalist propaganda vehicles such as NY Times, The Guardian, Der Spiegel, Le Monde etc.

Sometimes, it's just a guy who downloads tons of secret docs onto a Lady Gaga CD.

Vessol
11-28-2010, 10:51 PM
Sometimes, it's just a guy who downloads tons of secret docs onto a Lady Gaga CD.

Don't you see it. That's the biggest giveaway!

Lady Gaga is the keystone of the conspiracy!

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676

sevin
11-28-2010, 11:59 PM
Don't you see it. That's the biggest giveaway!

Lady Gaga is the keystone of the conspiracy!

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676

omfg

Anti Federalist
11-29-2010, 12:06 AM
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/chipped-detainees-iran-mega-missiles-and-more-in-latest-wikileaks/

King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia told a senior White House official to consider surgically implanting homing devices under Guantanamo Bay detainees’ skin. That’s one of the many potentially embarrassing comments from diplomatic back rooms now being made public by WikiLeaks.

During a March 2009 meeting with John Brennan, President Obama’s closest counterterrorism adviser, Abdullah proposed shooting electronic chips into the residual Guantanamo population, “allowing their movements to be tracked with Bluetooth.” Abdullah appears to have come up with the idea on the fly during their meeting — “I’ve just thought of something,” the cable quotes him saying — and considered forced subcutaneous chip implantation uncontroversial, since it’s already “done with horses and falcons.”

Brennan appears to have gingerly waved him off: “[H]orses don’t have good lawyers,” he replied, “but agreed that keeping track of detainees was an extremely important issue that he would review with appropriate officials when he returned to the United States.”

That’s a particularly bizarre proposal revealed inside the third large trove of U.S. secrets the radical anti-secrecy organization WikiLeaks has published in the last six months. This current one — reported on Sunday by the New York Times, Der Spiegel, and the Guardian — centers around more than 250,000 U.S. diplomatic communications, earning the dump a furious condemnation from the State Department and the White House. Our sister blog Threat Level first reported in June that WikiLeaks got ahold of the cables, and reports today on the U.S. information-sharing initiative that made the leak possible.

"Bizarre"?

Already in use all over the world.

http://www.positiveidcorp.com/

Will be mandatory for certain sectors of the population within the US in the next five years.

jclay2
11-29-2010, 12:50 AM
This guy is as good as dead. It was nice to have wikileaks while it lasted.

Andrew-Austin
11-29-2010, 12:52 AM
This guy is as good as dead. It was nice to have wikileaks while it lasted.

It will be nice to find out whats in the insurance file if he does get killed, but I don't expect he will. He might be arrested, but not killed.

jclay2
11-29-2010, 01:00 AM
It will be nice to find out whats in the insurance file if he does get killed, but I don't expect he will. He might be arrested, but not killed.

Sorry, I meant to say "suffered a horrendous car crash".

HOLLYWOOD
11-29-2010, 01:27 AM
This guy is as good as dead. It was nice to have wikileaks while it lasted.

The plan is initiated... one of the crones: the Aussies

You know the Echelon Network has every resource expendable on Asange search and track.

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee332/McLieberman/wikileaks.jpg

TheEvilDetector
11-29-2010, 03:30 AM
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/

TNforPaul45
11-29-2010, 08:25 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updates

The global cabal is reaching out it's tentacles and unifying support for itself. You mow this is pretty damaging info when EVERYONE connected to governments are saying these are "no big deal."

ctiger2
11-29-2010, 09:48 AM
Wikileaks stinks to high heaven:

Piss Off Israel and Wikileaks Will Call You a Terrorist (http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/piss-off-israel-and-wikileaks-will-call-you-a-terrorist/)
Wikileaks and the Setup to End Free Speech: The US Embassy Cable "Leaks" (http://redactednews.blogspot.com/2010/11/wikileaks-and-setup-to-end-free-speech.html)
Wikileaks Claims Osama Bin Laden Still Alive (http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2010/11/wikileaks-claims-osama-bin-laden-still.html)
WIKILEAKS WORKS FOR THE CIA AND MOSSAD? (http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/07/wikileaks-works-for-cia-and-mossad.html)

jtstellar
12-02-2010, 09:37 PM
Wikileaks stinks to high heaven:

Piss Off Israel and Wikileaks Will Call You a Terrorist (http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/piss-off-israel-and-wikileaks-will-call-you-a-terrorist/)
Wikileaks and the Setup to End Free Speech: The US Embassy Cable "Leaks" (http://redactednews.blogspot.com/2010/11/wikileaks-and-setup-to-end-free-speech.html)
Wikileaks Claims Osama Bin Laden Still Alive (http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2010/11/wikileaks-claims-osama-bin-laden-still.html)
WIKILEAKS WORKS FOR THE CIA AND MOSSAD? (http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/07/wikileaks-works-for-cia-and-mossad.html)

i kno.. heaven forbid any of what they say is true, the conspiracies you wacks have devoted your entire life to will be at jeopardy, and so is even more the case for many "talk show" hosts out there.

if you can't call these people calling bullshit bullshits that have a complete conflict of interest, i don't know what qualifies as real "untrustworthy" in your world.