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Starks
10-20-2007, 05:28 PM
It's taken them long enough to get organized and create a forum for themselves but the sudden spike in Mike's donations is absolutely startling.

JosephTheLibertarian
10-20-2007, 05:30 PM
It's taken them long enough to get organized and create a forum for themselves but the sudden spike in Mike's donations is absolutely startling.

we have to crack down hard on them. Hopefully they will just go away. Well, hey, he will be splitting the neo con vote ;) do you really think any of his supporters would go for Ron Paul anyway?

ItsTime
10-20-2007, 05:30 PM
Ya watch out he may raise 400k this month. You must have missed everyone in the MSM last week telling Rudy supporters to fund Huck-a-bee. Because if Huck does well in Iowa that will sink Romney's ship and make Rudy a shoo in

4Horsemen
10-20-2007, 05:31 PM
Hucks is nothing to worry about. Maybe the Brownback supporters jumped on his bandwagon--small wagon that is.

ronpaulyourmom
10-20-2007, 05:32 PM
It's taken them long enough to get organized and create a forum for themselves but the sudden spike in Mike's donations is absolutely startling.

It's not a huge spike, he raised 1 million last quarter and he's on track to raise about 350k this month. He's outpacing Q3 but not by that much.

Drknows
10-20-2007, 05:34 PM
All your doing with these threads is hyping them up
forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=19&start=15

the whole 60 members haha

csen
10-20-2007, 05:35 PM
I hope Huckabee gets a bump. Anything to keep Rudy from getting too much momentum. All we're looking for out of the other guys is no clear frontrunner. The more confusion, the better for us.

Johnnybags
10-20-2007, 05:35 PM
Ya watch out he may raise 400k this month. You must have missed everyone in the MSM last week telling Rudy supporters to fund Huck-a-bee. Because if Huck does well in Iowa that will sink Romney's ship and make Rudy a shoo in

some cash to pull votes from Mitt but Ghouliaini is still gonna get drubbed anyway. The man wins no polls on the ground, only in fantasy land polls. We asked 309 Neocons who they want and Rudy gets 30 percent, big deal. Iowa and NH will prove Ghouls is the would be emperor with no clothes. What a sight.

JosephTheLibertarian
10-20-2007, 05:37 PM
I thought we weren't supposed to engage in click fraud...

I didn't say on this site ;)

ItsTime
10-20-2007, 05:37 PM
I agree the phantom phone polls are BS. Just saying thats where the money is coming from is all lol.


some cash to pull votes from Mitt but Ghouliaini is still gonna get drubbed anyway. The man wins no polls on the ground, only in fantasy land polls. We asked 309 Neocons who they want and Rudy gets 30 percent, big deal. Iowa and NH will prove Ghouls is the would be emperor with no clothes. What a sight.

jointhefightforfreedom
10-20-2007, 05:41 PM
I thought we weren't supposed to engage in click fraud...

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ItsTime
10-20-2007, 05:42 PM
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Starks
10-20-2007, 05:42 PM
Oh, c'mon. Why spend time focusing on Huckabee, when there are millions of people out there who don't even know who Ron Paul IS. That is where we need to be focusing. Not on Huckabee.

Huckabee is a threat. The media severely over-inflates his campaign.

kylejack
10-20-2007, 05:43 PM
Hahaha they're quoting me on that Huckabee forum.

eloquensanity
10-20-2007, 05:48 PM
All your doing with these threads is hyping them up
forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=19&start=15

the whole 60 members haha

Well bless their hearts. They made their forums a lot like this one (same titles for their different forums)

I think they must admire us because they are writing letters to FRC and others just like RP supporters do.

It will be hard for them to spam polls though 77 registered users.
:rolleyes:

Danny Molina
10-20-2007, 05:48 PM
I didn't say on this site ;)

better use proxies then.

:D

me3
10-20-2007, 05:50 PM
Do not post about click fraud, you will get the ads pulled from this site. Use some discretion!

Maybe someone should just nuke this thread. Click fraud is serious business, whether you are encouraging it on a competitor's site or this one.

Starks
10-20-2007, 05:53 PM
Do not post about click fraud, you will get the ads pulled from this site. Use some discretion!

What ads? I use Adblock Plus in Firefox...

brandon
10-20-2007, 05:55 PM
This Just In:

The World Renowned Professor Don De Bots Has Just Confirmed That This Appears To Be A Fake Online Campaign, Called It "astroturfing"

davidhperry
10-20-2007, 06:13 PM
No, do NOT click on his adds.

davidhperry
10-20-2007, 06:18 PM
Huckabee is a threat. The media severely over-inflates his campaign.

Huck is not the threat that you might think - primarily because the media is inflating him. He hasn't raised any money because he hasn't connected with enough people at this point who think we should be president. Sure, he has some supporters but I think that most people realize at this point that that VP is the best he could hope for.

Why are we talking about him, by the way? Do we seriously think he's worth thinking about? Come on.

Cowlesy
10-20-2007, 06:24 PM
Hey, I say good for Mike Huckabee's supporters! I'm glad that people are interested in the political process whether or not they support my candidate.

No offense to Mike Huckabee, but let's boil his candidacy down to something easily measureable by anyone, beer. Rudy is basically your Bud Ice --- god bless you if you drink that shit, as it is awful, yet severely potent. Huckabee is basically the Budweiser Select, or I'd say personally, Michelob Ultra --- we all like it because it's better for us, has a cool container, but has no substance or effect. It's like having Campbell's Chicken Soup for lunch with those 0.5 centimeter cubed squares of what they call chicken, compared to your Mom's homemade hearty chicken soup. Huckabee looks good, sounds good..but there is no substance.

JosephTheLibertarian
10-20-2007, 06:25 PM
Hey, I say good for Mike Huckabee's supporters! I'm glad that people are interested in the political process whether or not they support my candidate.

No offense to Mike Huckabee, but let's boil his candidacy down to something easily measureable by anyone, beer. Rudy is basically your Bud Ice --- god bless you if you drink that shit, as it is awful, yet severely potent. Huckabee is basically the Budweiser Select, or I'd say personally, Michelob Ultra --- we all like it because it's better for us, has a cool container, but has no substance or effect. It's like having Campbell's Chicken Soup for lunch with those 0.5 centimeter cubed squares of what they call chicken, compared to your Mom's homemade hearty chicken soup. Huckabee looks good, sounds good..but there is no substance.

And what's Ron Paul? ;) Cool analogy, man.

mkrfctr
10-20-2007, 06:28 PM
You know what, f you for making me hungry for chicken noodle soup. I h8 you now.

Cowlesy
10-20-2007, 06:31 PM
And what's Ron Paul? ;) Cool analogy, man.

As the late-presidential candidate Samuel Dale Brownback would respond, "That's a good question, and I thank you for that question. If we had strong families, we truly would have world peace, worldwide."


If Ron Paul was a beer, he'd clearly be a George Washington Porter.

You aficionados may know that General Washington brewed his own Porter beer, which has been replicated (much less potent than Washington's original brew) at Yards, a Philadelphia brewery.

Wow, wouldn't that be the drink of choice at the Freedom Rally in November?

mkrfctr
10-20-2007, 06:33 PM
come on, kool-aid for sure, what else... ;-)

Starks
10-20-2007, 06:34 PM
I can appreciate the sudden surge in Huckabee grassroots, but they are honestly a few months too late...

Cowlesy
10-20-2007, 06:34 PM
In fact, if I am able to make it down to the Freedom Rally, I'll buy any of you Patriots a round at Yards if they still have the founding father's recipe brews available. Here are a few.

Thomas Jefferson Tavern Ale

Yards Thomas Jefferson's Tavern Ale is a strong golden ale brewed with honey and other ingredients specified by Jefferson for semiannual brewing at his Monticello estate. This multi-grain ale boasts a smooth body and a long finish.
Alcohol by Volume is 8%

General Washington Tavern Porter

Yards General Washington's Tavern Porter is a dark beer brewed with molasses. Washington's admiration of Philadelphia-style porter is reflected in his recipe for this ale, which was brewed to satisfy the thirsts of his field officers. Tavern Porter is rich and warming with a deep garnet hue.
Alcohol by Volume is 7%

Poor Richard's Tavern Spruce

www.yardsbrewing.com

Based on Benjamin Franklin's original recipe for a Spruce Beer; Yards Poor Richard's Tavern Spruce is a dark, mild ale brewed with molasses and organic spruce tips. Although Franklin recorded this recipe during his time in France, spruce and molasses had become a common brewing ingredient for American colonists. This was driven by the lack of availability and cost of hops and barley. At the time, Britain restricted and unfairly taxed the trade of hops and barley imported to the colonies forcing colonists to produce ales from readily available ingredients - Spruce was the favored choice.
Alcohol by Volume is 4.5%

Who knows though, maybe a lot of RP supporters aren't drinkers, but this place probably has lots of good food too.

Alabama Supporter
10-20-2007, 06:42 PM
Competition is healthy. Free market system at work...

KingTheoden
10-20-2007, 06:49 PM
Don't click bomb the Huckster...he is a tool of the media establishment, but there are much worse people in this campaign. And we should try to keep things above board with our campaign. I would say just pass out pocket Constitutions and Ron Paul Issues flyers.

I really do not like the Huck any more than you guys BUT we do want his supporters. And let's not burn all bridges with the regular Republicans, we do not want to scare away social conservatives :)

TruckinMike
10-20-2007, 06:53 PM
Huckabee can be a major threat!!!! The MSM treats him with kid gloves... no disparaging remarks.. and he has been on shows that Ron Paul only dreams about!!! THE MSM is supporting him ---- a direct opposite of RP!!!

The folks in my church in Texas have fallen for the good preacher bit ---that the media perpetuates. HE is a major threat. He doesn't need grass roots when you have the media on his side.

We need folks outside of this realm... we need more signs siting his message!!! Thousands of them!!! ITS the only way...

Instead of a money drive we need a SIGN DRIVE!!! Dollar for Dollar coroplast STOMPS TV, RADIO, and newspapers in the dirt!

The problem is people are not willing to put them up.:mad:

Truckinmike

inflamesdjk02
10-20-2007, 07:09 PM
Alright, maybe this has been talked about elsewhere, but I'm going to go ahead and ask anyways ...

How would you go about converting someone who is supporting Huckabee into a Ron Paul supporter?

I have a few friends that both support Huckabee because they have been attracted by his smooth talking and religious overtones, but otherwise don't really know that much about him. They pretty much blindly support whatever Bush tells them to believe, and since Huckabee is very similar ...

This is a problem since these people have been in my experiences the most close-minded and hard to convince. What I need is to come up with a heart-felt and compelling speech that will compel them to reconsider. And of course, the more fact-based, the better.

Any suggestions?

FreedomLover
10-20-2007, 07:14 PM
It's taken them long enough to get organized and create a forum for themselves but the sudden spike in Mike's donations is absolutely startling.

It's important to remember that you can't measure the full support of a candidate by only using the indefinite metric of the internet.

Adamsa
10-20-2007, 07:21 PM
Ya watch out he may raise 400k this month. You must have missed everyone in the MSM last week telling Rudy supporters to fund Huck-a-bee. Because if Huck does well in Iowa that will sink Romney's ship and make Rudy a shoo in

This is what I fear is happening.

robatsu
10-20-2007, 07:39 PM
This is what I fear is happening.

Could some of this also be a result of the Value Voters conference. Sure, Romney won it w/the online votes, but among the conference attendees, Huckleberry took like 51% of the vote. This conference was a pretty big deal for that community, so...

ItsTime
10-20-2007, 07:49 PM
But they all believe the phantom phone polls. Paul will amaze everyone. Paul could be polling 15% nationally by Nov 15thish. Just watch and see :)


This is what I fear is happening.

mavtek
10-20-2007, 07:53 PM
I think it's obvious where all this support is coming from. The 500 people that went to the values thing and voted for Huckyboy. They came home and said oh boy Margie I really liked that preacher! I got his card and it's got this here website on it and I'm gonna go and give him $100!

TruckinMike
10-20-2007, 08:01 PM
check out this article:http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/why_mike_huckabee_cant_be_the_conservative_choice_ for_president/

He wants a federal mandated ban on smoking... in the workplace...

Also he is a "squishy" compassionate conservative willing to compromise on any feel good social experiment.

Huckabee is just waiting to sign hillery care with a twist...thats just my opinion.

And he won't do squat for the 2nd am.---as in reversing 922r regs brought in by executive order of bush41

The problem with Huckabee --- he is not awful, he's a bit of a federalist, flexible with the constitution, a little bit socialist, a compromiser, but there in nothing CONCRETE to point to. Other than his incessant push for the war in IRAQ.

Basically he is the typical go along to get along candidate... Will do whats necessary to make folks smile. No solid principles like our man Paul. Huckabee is too flexible to be considered principled. Thats my take. I think "they" or "The man" likes him because he is flexible/mold able. Wheres my hat again, I can't seem to find it, its shiny, and made of tin. Has anyone seen it?:eek:

And there in lies your point to your friends ... not convicted, too flexible, a compromiser.

ie-hillery care with modifications, etc.

Truckinkmike

frasu
10-20-2007, 08:03 PM
Huckabee can be a major threat!!!! The MSM treats him with kid gloves... no disparaging remarks.. and he has been on shows that Ron Paul only dreams about!!! THE MSM is supporting him ---- a direct opposite of RP!!!

The folks in my church in Texas have fallen for the good preacher bit ---that the media perpetuates. HE is a major threat. He doesn't need grass roots when you have the media on his side.

We need folks outside of this realm... we need more signs siting his message!!! Thousands of them!!! ITS the only way...

Instead of a money drive we need a SIGN DRIVE!!! Dollar for Dollar coroplast STOMPS TV, RADIO, and newspapers in the dirt!

The problem is people are not willing to put them up.:mad:

Truckinmike

I agree. The past week was a Huckabee Fest on MSM, and he did nothing to deserve that. Credit to him, he got some edge but I don't understand how. And because he did so good on Friday's debate, he will get more love from the press next week...

I know it seems pointless to talk about him, but we need to analyze him just he is part of the (healthy) competition that is kinda close to RP's stands...

Hope RP will kill on Sunday's debate!

Lord Xar
10-20-2007, 08:10 PM
I gotta laugh... starks is posting huckabees blowup of fundraising, when to me, its abysmal... this guy raised about 1/5 of Ron Paul and he might be raising more now than he did... it is STILL abysmal compared to his ranking in the MSM Polls......

I mean, he has 146K, Ron has almost 1.5 MILLION!!

Remember People, this is when I would say 40% of the voters STILL DO NOT KNOW OF RON PAUL.... Trust me, you watch in the next 3 weeks......

steph3n
10-20-2007, 08:11 PM
I gotta laugh... starks is posting huckabees blowup of fundraising, when to me, its abysmal... this guy raised about 1/5 of Ron Paul and he might be raising more now than he did... it is STILL abysmal compared to his ranking in the MSM Polls......

I mean, he has 146K, Ron has almost 1.5 MILLION!!

Remember People, this is when I would say 40% of the voters STILL DO NOT KNOW OF RON PAUL.... Trust me, you watch in the next 3 weeks......

You are exactly right, people just don't know, or have only little knowledge due to 30 second sound bites, it is up to us to change it through chipins to great PACs like yours(which I've given to!) and through radio ads the HQ is doing, as well as person to person door to door, etc! Sign wavings are NOT the answer right now, while it was good before we have to move past them.

ItsTime
10-20-2007, 08:11 PM
You think he is a Huck shill too? I wasnt going to say anything.

I agree with the next 3 weeks. Watch out... here we come.


I gotta laugh... starks is posting huckabees blowup of fundraising, when to me, its abysmal... this guy raised about 1/5 of Ron Paul and he might be raising more now than he did... it is STILL abysmal compared to his ranking in the MSM Polls......

I mean, he has 146K, Ron has almost 1.5 MILLION!!

Remember People, this is when I would say 40% of the voters STILL DO NOT KNOW OF RON PAUL.... Trust me, you watch in the next 3 weeks......

MozoVote
10-20-2007, 08:27 PM
Notice on this thread (http://forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=73) they are complaining about how the FRC and press release was more favorable to Romney... and did not explain that of the people actually at the conference, half voted for Huck.

Ya know, I see their point. But it's interesting to witness another campaign gripe about the lack of good analysis in the MSM.

Danny Molina
10-20-2007, 08:30 PM
I have a feeling that if Huckabee becomes president he'd impose morality on ALL media taking away every citizens freedom of speech.

Sean
10-20-2007, 08:46 PM
OK, I clicked on a Huckabee sponsored link to get to his site to see his fundraising. I think he is out of money now.

Roxi
10-20-2007, 08:48 PM
how did u get the heart on the subject line?

jj111
10-20-2007, 08:54 PM
You are exactly right, people just don't know, or have only little knowledge due to 30 second sound bites, it is up to us to change it through chipins to great PACs like yours(which I've given to!) and through radio ads the HQ is doing, as well as person to person door to door, etc! Sign wavings are NOT the answer right now, while it was good before we have to move past them.

What is wrong with sign waving? I've been doing it over the last few days, getting about 3000 or more impressions per hour. I think it compliments door to door. In addition, it is time-efficient. Massive number of people need to see Ron Paul's name. In the absence of enough decent mainstream media coverage, I believe that sign waving is one way for us to be a low-scale "mass media."

steph3n
10-20-2007, 09:01 PM
What is wrong with sign waving? I've been doing it over the last few days, getting about 3000 or more impressions per hour. I think it compliments door to door. In addition, it is time-efficient. Massive number of people need to see Ron Paul's name. In the absence of enough decent mainstream media coverage, I believe that sign waving is one way for us to be a low-scale "mass media."

I did not say or mean useless, but not the answer, as in it won't get the votes itself.

Adamsa
10-20-2007, 09:03 PM
I did not say or mean useless, but not the answer, as in it won't get the votes itself.

Nothing we do will, the only way they'll vote is if they choose to investigate him and like him themselves, whether we provide the info or name for them to read is whats important.

Lord Xar
10-20-2007, 09:18 PM
Nothing we do will, the only way they'll vote is if they choose to investigate him and like him themselves, whether we provide the info or name for them to read is whats important.

I saw signs, got interested, saw video of Avaroth's and was hooked.. 'SO', sign waving, sign posting is BRANDING and IS IMPRESSIONABLE...

How the heck else do you contribute this wave of Ron Paul support? The great MSM coverage? I never was on youtube till I heard of Ron Paul, SO - it was the grassroots that got me interested.

Starks
10-21-2007, 06:50 AM
Huckabee's sign wavers are never going to be taken seriously until they up their passion level and increase their numbers.