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Anti Federalist
11-19-2010, 02:40 PM
Spin and Propaganda alert!!!

Look how this was phrased, "If only they had the naked porno scanners I wouldn't have to have gone through this humiliation".

Bullshit.

The Porno Scanners pick up many more "anomalies" that result in getting felt up than the metal detectors do.

Face the facts Penny dear, you're either with us or against us on this issue, there are no half measures.

Either stop it now, or get resigned to gropes and, soon to come, body cavity searches.


Woman says her Lambert security screening was sexual assault

http://www.kmov.com/news/mobile/Woman-says-her-Lambert-security-screening-was-sexual-assault--109114934.html

KMOV.com
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 11:32 PM

(KMOV) -- More Americans are growing angrier, over what the Transportation Security Administration, admits are more intrusive security put downs at airports.

One woman is comparing her experience at Lambert Airport to a sexual assault.

Business traveler, Penny Moroney, was flying home from St. Louis to Chicago. Like all other airline passengers, she had to go through security first. When the metal in her artificial knees set off the detectors, she had to undergo more screening. When Moroney asked if she could go through a body scanner, she was told none were available.

A pat down was the only alternative.

Moroney explains “Her gloved hands touched my breasts...went between them. Then she went into the top of my slacks, inserted her hands between my underwear and my skin... then put her hands up on outside of slacks, and patted my genitals.”

“I was shaking and crying when I left that room” Moroney says. “Under any other circumstance, if a person touched me like that without my permission, it would be considered criminal sexual assault.”

Moroney complained to the Transportation Security Administration, TSA, supervisor and then complained on the ACLU’s website.

The national office is now monitoring what it calls a “flood of complaints” from across the country.

Edwin Yohnka of ACLU Illinois says there are no laws and no regulations that govern scanners and pat downs.

Moroney said she wishes there were full body scanners everywhere so that she could have avoided a pat down.

The TSA’s response was that their officers’ first priority is safety when asked if putting hands down the front of someone’s pants is excessive.

The TSA said they don’t comment on individual screening procedures at checkpoints.

Anyone who sets off the metal detectors are required to go through a physical pat down, but the TSA says they use a less aggressive touch for children under 12.

The government is currently adding more body scanners at airports across the country.

Bruno
11-19-2010, 02:45 PM
"The TSA’s response was that their officers’ first priority is safety when asked if putting hands down the front of someone’s pants is excessive."

The same answer will be given when they switch to cavity searches after we go from shoe bomber to underwear bomber to a$$ bomber.

Anti Federalist
11-19-2010, 03:00 PM
"The TSA’s response was that their officers’ first priority is safety when asked if putting hands down the front of someone’s pants is excessive."

The same answer will be given when they switch to cavity searches after we go from shoe bomber to underwear bomber to a$$ bomber.

And the vast majority will eagerly spread their ass cheeks.

Franklin truly had it correct: they will not get, nor will they deserve, liberty or safety.

JK/SEA
11-19-2010, 03:06 PM
OK...i was pondering this question today, and decided to post my thoughts here. Would 'they' arrest someone for voluntarily striping off ALL their clothes BEFORE a pat down in front of everyone? i'm thinking they would, but damn...that would be a real 'in your face moment'...

Bern
11-19-2010, 03:44 PM
I remember it like it was yesterday:

The Republican gubernatorial nominee apologized today for an off-the-cuff remark suggesting that some victims of rape should ''relax and enjoy it.''

... He compared the cold, foggy weather spoiling the event to a rape, telling ranch hands, campaign workers and reporters around a campfire, ''If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it.''
...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1E3FF935A15750C0A9669582 60

Bruno
11-19-2010, 04:05 PM
OK...i was pondering this question today, and decided to post my thoughts here. Would 'they' arrest someone for voluntarily striping off ALL their clothes BEFORE a pat down in front of everyone? i'm thinking they would, but damn...that would be a real 'in your face moment'...

In case you missed it:

YouTube - Nude Protest Airport Body Scanners in Germany P1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EqBcNHX_To)

HOLLYWOOD
11-19-2010, 05:27 PM
Grabbing Junk Is 'Necessary,' Says VP Joe Biden

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/130089-biden-pat-downs-a-necessary-policy (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/130089-biden-pat-downs-a-necessary-policy)

http://nation.foxnews.com/joe-biden/2010/11/19/grabbing-junk-necessary-says-biden (http://nation.foxnews.com/joe-biden/2010/11/19/grabbing-junk-necessary-says-biden)

Biden: Airport screening pat-downs a 'necessary policy'

Vice President Joe Biden is defending the Transportation Security Administration's (TSA) controversial new pat-down technique, calling it a "necessary policy."
Biden acknowledged people have concerns that the TSA's use of full-body scanners and pat-downs are frustrating and intrusive but argued they are crucial to prevent another incident like the attempted Christmas Day airline bombing.


"Well look, Larry, maybe because I spend so much time every morning dealing with the threat assessment that's out there and the fact that it's real — I understand peoples' frustration, but I — unless there's a new technology that comes along pretty quickly, I think it's — I think it's a necessary policy," he said on CNN's "Larry King Live" program. "I think it will have the effect of saving lives, intercepting explosives."
Even though the TSA's new policy has riled lawmakers on Capitol Hill, Biden's comments indicate the agency will continue to scan or pat down passengers at the nation's airports.
Biden is the highest-ranking member of the administration to comment on the policy since it was put in place. Asked if anyone in the administration is against the pat-downs, the vice president said: "No. We're all in the administration saying continue to look to see what the best technology and the least intrusive that gives us the greatest security."
TSA, under its new policy, must screen airline passengers using whole-body imaging systems. But passengers who feel that the scans are too intrusive are permitted to go through a metal detector or receive a pat-down, which some have said comes too close to groping.

GOP Rep. Ted Poe (Texas) said on the House floor Tuesday that the full-body scanners violate (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/129651-gop-lawmaker-full-body-scanners-violate-fourth-amendment) the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution, which protects against unreasonable searches and seizures.

TSA Administrator John Pistole this week offered (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/129663-tsa-chief-offers-pat-downs-to-senators-concerned-about-airport-screenings) to have airport screeners come to Capitol Hill to give lawmakers pat-downs in order to assuage their concerns.

MelissaWV
11-19-2010, 06:06 PM
It's not intercepting explosives. It's intercepting drugs.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it.