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CaseyJones
11-18-2010, 07:42 PM
YouTube - Freedom Watch Part 1 - Obscene Intrusion 11/18/2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM1Bcvv1LyA)

YouTube - Freedom Watch Part 2 - Obscene Intrusion 11/18/2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67IUG1fjm-M)

YouTube - Freedom Watch Part 3 - Obscene Intrusion 11/18/2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuynRgTaR1Y)

YouTube - Freedom Watch Part 4 - Obscene Intrusion 11/18/2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3n2U1wVQFY)

MRoCkEd
11-18-2010, 07:55 PM
Good stuff.

Beck:
- I was stupid for supporting the PATRIOT Act
- What the TSA is doing is indefensible
- Government may be manufacturing TSA Revolt to plan something worse...
- Ron Paul being chair of subcommittee is best thing that could happen

Anti Federalist
11-18-2010, 07:58 PM
Good stuff.

Beck:
- I was stupid for supporting the PATRIOT Act
- What the TSA is doing is indefensible
- Government may be manufacturing TSA Revolt to plan something worse...
- Ron Paul being chair of subcommittee is best thing that could happen

Geraldo reverses on 9/11 truth.

Now this.

I think somebody spiked my coffee with acid. :D

FrankRep
11-18-2010, 08:01 PM
Judge Napolitano: I converted Glenn Beck

YouTube - The Alex Jones Show - Thu 10.07.2010 part-16 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6cXj0Iz7FI)



Glenn Beck Recapitulates The John Birch Society
http://www.jbs.org/component/content/article/1009-commentary/6372-glenn-beck-recapitulates-the-john-birch-society

Glenn Beck Zeros In on the Council on Foreign Relations' Role in Media Bias
http://www.jbs.org/component/content/article/1009-commentary/6412-glenn-beck-zeroes-in-on-cfrs-role-in-press-bias

Glenn Beck Discovers Carroll Quigley! - False Paradigm of Political Parties
http://www.jbs.org/component/content/article/1009-commentary/6441-beck-uses-quigley-quote-about-political-parties

Glenn Beck Discovers 'Philip Dru: Administrator' by Colonel Edward Mandell House
http://www.jbs.org/component/content/article/1009-commentary/6405-glenn-beck-discovers-philip-dru-administrator

Glenn Beck: History Vindicated Joe McCarthy
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/37-history/3876-glenn-beck-history-vindicated-joe-mccarthy

Beck's Founders' Fridays Attempts to Undo Revisionists' Damage
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/37-history/3678-becks-founders-fridays-attempts-to-undo-revisionists-damage

Glenn Beck exposes the Progressive Movement, Woodrow Wilson, and the Federal Reserve
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257099

CaseyJones
11-18-2010, 08:15 PM
all parts up now

RonPaulCult
11-18-2010, 09:09 PM
Why must the judge put Ron Paul and Sarah Palin into the same "libertarian" wing of the party? That's quite a stretch. I think he has a crush on her or something.

AuH20
11-18-2010, 09:12 PM
Why must the judge put Ron Paul and Sarah Palin into the same "libertarian" wing of the party? That's quite a stretch. I think he has a crush on her or something.

Well, if you look at the democrats, it's not that absurd as a comparison.

FrankRep
11-18-2010, 09:13 PM
Why must the judge put Ron Paul and Sarah Palin into the same "libertarian" wing of the party? That's quite a stretch. I think he has a crush on her or something.
It's the "I'm more Libertarian than You!" debate. :rolleyes:

emazur
11-18-2010, 09:18 PM
Why must the judge put Ron Paul and Sarah Palin into the same "libertarian" wing of the party? That's quite a stretch. I think he has a crush on her or something.

He's trying to steer Palin's followers, and perhaps Sarah herself, into the Ron Paul direction. He gave his point blank opinion on Palin last election, but repeating such things will alienate Beck and tea partiers. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar type approach.

wormyguy
11-18-2010, 09:22 PM
He's trying to steer Palin's followers, and perhaps Sarah herself, into the Ron Paul direction. He gave his point blank opinion on Palin last election, but repeating such things will alienate Beck and tea partiers. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar type approach.
Good point. That's the reason for the very different reactions to Ron 2008 and Rand 2010 among liberals - criticize Bush and McCain on the war and civil liberties and you'll earn their high praise, criticize Obama on the war and civil liberties and you'll offend them. That's why this year (and in 2012) they launched an all-out assault on us and the only liberals who remained on our side were the Green Party types.

RonPaulCult
11-18-2010, 09:30 PM
Well, if you look at the democrats, it's not that absurd as a comparison.

Agreed. But he was putting Ron and Sarah into one group and Huckabee into another. I think Sarah belongs more with Huck.


It's the "I'm more Libertarian than You!" debate. :rolleyes:

Um, no buddy. It's the "I don't want people who hate Sarah Palin to think Ron Paul is like that too" debate.


He's trying to steer Palin's followers, and perhaps Sarah herself, into the Ron Paul direction. He gave his point blank opinion on Palin last election, but repeating such things will alienate Beck and tea partiers. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar type approach.

I hope you're right.

jct74
11-18-2010, 09:50 PM
That was funny when The Judge said old-guard social conservatives have plundered our tax dollars as much as the democrats, then a few minutes later he called Huckabee an old-guard social conservative. :D

sofia
11-18-2010, 10:04 PM
Beck and Palin owe their wealth and existence to the neo-cons. Be careful with these snakes Judge.

Mach
11-18-2010, 10:49 PM
With all of his talk I don't see how Beck can make any kind of excuse for not totally supporting Ron Paul 2012.

LudwigVonMisoSoup
11-18-2010, 11:01 PM
Beck can end most ill will from the RP people if he chooses to do one thing: endorse him.

RonPaulCult
11-18-2010, 11:08 PM
Beck can end most ill will from the RP people if he chooses to do one thing: endorse him.

Key word "most" :D

CAKochenash
11-18-2010, 11:09 PM
That was funny when The Judge said old-guard social conservatives have plundered our tax dollars as much as the democrats, then a few minutes later he called Huckabee an old-guard social conservative. :D

The Judge certainly has a way of telling it how it is in a very gentle manner, yet witty. I thought the entire interview with glen was an embarrassment for beck.

LudwigVonMisoSoup
11-18-2010, 11:19 PM
Key word "most" :D

I mean, there are those that will never believe anything he says, no matter what. If he endorses RP, I'll be content with that.

qh4dotcom
11-19-2010, 12:42 AM
Beck can end most ill will from the RP people if he chooses to do one thing: endorse him.

I recall Beck has said he doesn't endorse anyone...you gotta make up your own mind.

jct74
11-19-2010, 12:44 AM
The Judge certainly has a way of telling it how it is in a very gentle manner, yet witty.

Yes he does, but I thought it was pretty blunt actually, maybe a little too blunt, LOL.
.

trey4sports
11-19-2010, 12:52 AM
Beck has been a strong ally to the Liberty movement.

He is the only guy in the media (including the Judge) who talks about the CFR, global governance, NWO, Soros, and all the other "fringe" yet serious issues that confront this nation. He has brought light to so many incredibly powerful yet relatively unknown issues that it is a joy just to see what he'll talk about next.

Regardless of who he endorses he has immensely educated the American people.

vita3
11-19-2010, 02:30 AM
Glenn Beck is a histronic nut.

& will always be.

CaseyJones
11-19-2010, 07:29 AM
bump

payme_rick
11-19-2010, 09:14 AM
How about that Trace Adkins fella? Straight-up said we should be profiling, obviously meaning muslims...

I'm too big a fan of music, I would have talked shit about the crappy pop-country him and his colleagues are putting out these days... Can't stand it...

roho76
11-19-2010, 10:58 AM
That was funny when The Judge said old-guard social conservatives have plundered our tax dollars as much as the democrats, then a few minutes later he called Huckabee an old-guard social conservative. :D

The look on his face when the camera returned to him after the clip of why he didn't go to CPAC was awesome.

Romulus
11-19-2010, 10:59 AM
He's trying to steer Palin's followers, and perhaps Sarah herself, into the Ron Paul direction. He gave his point blank opinion on Palin last election, but repeating such things will alienate Beck and tea partiers. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar type approach.

winner and + rep

speciallyblend
11-19-2010, 11:10 AM
go away beck

Brett85
11-19-2010, 11:33 AM
How about that Trace Adkins fella? Straight-up said we should be profiling, obviously meaning muslims...

We absolutely should be profiling. Does it make more sense to check a 90 year old grandma, or check a 21 year old arab from Yemen?

payme_rick
11-19-2010, 11:41 AM
We absolutely should be profiling. Does it make more sense to check a 90 year old grandma, or check a 21 year old arab from Yemen?

So you're fine with the TSA porn-scanners and gropes for muslims, but no one else? That's what he meant...

I'm not fine with them period...

mczerone
11-19-2010, 11:46 AM
It's the "I'm more Libertarian than You!" debate. :rolleyes:

No, its more: "I know libertarians. Libertarians are my friends. And Sarah Palin is no libertarian."

Wanting the government to do less does not make one a libertarian. It may make her an ally in some initiatives, but it doesn't mean she has any sense of non-aggression and thus equal rights.

Batman
11-19-2010, 11:56 AM
Why must the judge put Ron Paul and Sarah Palin into the same "libertarian" wing of the party? That's quite a stretch. I think he has a crush on her or something.

I can't remember where I remembered reading it, but there was a pretty detailed article that explained Sarah Palin before she was the Sarah Palin we know. The way it described her, she was closer to the libertarian or constitutionalist side of the debate. Sarah jumped at the chance to be McCain's running mate, but she had a lot of baggage from her past on the matter of a very short temper. McCain blackmailed her into towing the party line and there were many instances during the campaign where she said some surprisingly anti-neocon things that got her into hot water. She tried moving back to those same roots after the campaign until Fox News apparently tried to blackmail her again into doing what they wanted and has since pretty much done what the establishment asked of her.

Take it with a grain of salt if you must, but I found that article to be pretty interesting.

ravedown
11-19-2010, 11:56 AM
Beck has already stated on radio that he loves Demint and would support him if he runs. The fact that beck seems to go out of his way to avoid Ron Paul during his discussions regarding the fed and other topics that Ron has brought to the mainstream tells me he's already in the bag for someone, probably Romney/Demint/Palin.

mczerone
11-19-2010, 12:00 PM
We absolutely should be profiling. Does it make more sense to check a 90 year old grandma, or check a 21 year old arab from Yemen?

Three problems:

First, by their own rules the government is supposed to give everyone "equal protection under the law", and cannot discriminate on the basis of race. To profile may indeed be more effective, but it is not Constitutional. Behavioral profiling of all passengers would solve this problem in a non-discriminating way.

Second, how do we know which methods are most effective if the state regulates the procedures? If no planes are blown up, it may be because of security, it may be because of something else. If planes are blown up, then was security too lax or was it inevitable despite any type of security? In either case (apparent success or failure) the security can ask for and will receive more resources and more invasive procedures.

Third, just because it is more likely for a person of particular appearance to have nefarious intentions, other people (yes, even senior ladies) may also have such plans. In fact, if profiling were to occur, terrorizing organizations would just recruit more non-profiled peoples to carry out their plans, either by persuading them to their ideals or by coercing them into being a patsy. Do you think it's beyond those set on evil to send children in to do their dirty work? Or that a housewife from the midwest is incapable of deciding that violence is the answer?

HOLLYWOOD
11-19-2010, 12:05 PM
Now, Beck's statements are a perfect example of being a Populist.

US Senator and FED shill Judd Gregg called Ron Paul a "populist" with his HR 1207 a few months ago on CNBC... this is an absolute lie because we all know Ron has been after the FED for decades and Gregg, et al, labeled him as nutty, before this became popular, but now that people/citizens/Americans are catching on to the truth of the Federal Reserve, it has become very popular, not onl;y in AMerica, but across the planet.

For Glenn Beck, now that the people(especially the true Tea Party starters here and now TP groups across America), realize, exposed, and against the damage of THE FED, THE PATRIOT ACT, or Liberties and Freedoms systematically being stripped.

The revolt against the huge Government establishment lining their pockets or for themselves immunites, special privledges, and growth of their imperial empire... has struck a nerve with Americans across all political persuasions ... Beck and FOX and FRIENDS knows this...

Beck is riding the wave, all the way to the bank and he can falsely fool himself as a "Do Gooder"

Never trust ANY MSM corporate outlet or their puppets running popularity games!

Anti Federalist
11-19-2010, 12:09 PM
I can't remember where I remembered reading it, but there was a pretty detailed article that explained Sarah Palin before she was the Sarah Palin we know. The way it described her, she was closer to the libertarian or constitutionalist side of the debate. Sarah jumped at the chance to be McCain's running mate, but she had a lot of baggage from her past on the matter of a very short temper. McCain blackmailed her into towing the party line and there were many instances during the campaign where she said some surprisingly anti-neocon things that got her into hot water. She tried moving back to those same roots after the campaign until Fox News apparently tried to blackmail her again into doing what they wanted and has since pretty much done what the establishment asked of her.

Take it with a grain of salt if you must, but I found that article to be pretty interesting.

There was some amount of Palin love around here back 2007/2008.

Some even floated her name as a possible running mate for Ron.

mczerone
11-19-2010, 12:12 PM
I can't remember where I remembered reading it, but there was a pretty detailed article that explained Sarah Palin before she was the Sarah Palin we know. The way it described her, she was closer to the libertarian or constitutionalist side of the debate. Sarah jumped at the chance to be McCain's running mate, but she had a lot of baggage from her past on the matter of a very short temper. McCain blackmailed her into towing the party line and there were many instances during the campaign where she said some surprisingly anti-neocon things that got her into hot water. She tried moving back to those same roots after the campaign until Fox News apparently tried to blackmail her again into doing what they wanted and has since pretty much done what the establishment asked of her.

Take it with a grain of salt if you must, but I found that article to be pretty interesting.

I'm sorry, but even if this were true, sacrificing your principles for political advantage shows that you have no principles.

If she only cares about saying the "right things" to gain political power, then she obviously doesn't care for freedom or constitutionalism. For example, Ron Paul has had political success to the degree that he has because his doesn't sacrifice his principles, and he can claim to have those principles to this day. Palin's principles, as she has exhibited them, are to try to be in control of government, not to limit government in any way shape or form, unless, of course, saying so would get her more political favors. And once a person such as her is in power, the only favors she can get are from those looking to protect their political advantages - so nothing gets cut, and her favorite supporters get her to expand their government protections.

jmdrake
11-19-2010, 12:23 PM
And this is why an Obama win was good for the Republican party. Had McCain won, republicans would still be defending the idea of "trading liberty for security". I kept telling conservatives who stuck to the "Constitution is not a suicide pact" lie to "Imagine Hillary Clinton with that kind of power". I had no idea at the time that "Hillary" would end up being Obama. We've got to hold Beck to this when it really counts in the primary.

Batman
11-19-2010, 12:38 PM
I'm sorry, but even if this were true, sacrificing your principles for political advantage shows that you have no principles.

If she only cares about saying the "right things" to gain political power, then she obviously doesn't care for freedom or constitutionalism. For example, Ron Paul has had political success to the degree that he has because his doesn't sacrifice his principles, and he can claim to have those principles to this day. Palin's principles, as she has exhibited them, are to try to be in control of government, not to limit government in any way shape or form, unless, of course, saying so would get her more political favors. And once a person such as her is in power, the only favors she can get are from those looking to protect their political advantages - so nothing gets cut, and her favorite supporters get her to expand their government protections.

I agree, but from what I could glean Sarah may not be sacrificing her principles for political advantage but more likely due to financial or family reasons. I'm not happy with the way she stands on things but if this is the case then I can understand why she may have changed her tune. As long as the possibility of rehabilitation exists I won't reject her outright.

Daamien
11-19-2010, 12:46 PM
A bit unrelated, but I find it hilariously hypocritical that Glenn Beck cites Michael Chertoff personally profiting off the use of body scanners by falsely saying "this is the best product" when Beck has been known to profit off pushing Goldline by also falsely claiming it offers "the best product".

Batman
11-19-2010, 12:49 PM
I thought all commentators advertise gold , though.

Brett85
11-19-2010, 12:53 PM
Do you think it's beyond those set on evil to send children in to do their dirty work? Or that a housewife from the midwest is incapable of deciding that violence is the answer?

That isn't very likely, but behavioral profiling might be the way that we have to go anyway. I just think that we need to single out the few people who may actually be threats and not check every single person. That isn't making us any safer.

LibertyEagle
11-19-2010, 12:55 PM
He's trying to steer Palin's followers, and perhaps Sarah herself, into the Ron Paul direction. He gave his point blank opinion on Palin last election, but repeating such things will alienate Beck and tea partiers. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar type approach.

+1

bubbleboy
11-19-2010, 01:09 PM
Burn in HELL Glen Beck you F$$@" Jackwagon!

Daamien
11-19-2010, 01:30 PM
I thought all commentators advertise gold , though.

Hah, they don't all tell you to buy it from Goldline (as simultaneously being a paid spokesman for the company) which attempts to sell you extremely overvalued (by metal content) rare coins.

AGRP
11-19-2010, 01:34 PM
YouTube - What Glenn Beck Says Behind Debra Medina's Back On Air Concerning 9/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lQW4iuG_rE)

vita3
11-19-2010, 01:39 PM
Glenn Beck is my favorite histronic mormon mouthpiece.

libertygrl
11-19-2010, 02:11 PM
Now, Beck's statements are a perfect example of being a Populist.

US Senator and FED shill Judd Gregg called Ron Paul a "populist" with his HR 1207 a few months ago on CNBC... this is an absolute lie because we all know Ron has been after the FED for decades and Gregg, et al, labeled him as nutty, before this became popular, but now that people/citizens/Americans are catching on to the truth of the Federal Reserve, it has become very popular, not onl;y in AMerica, but across the planet.

For Glenn Beck, now that the people(especially the true Tea Party starters here and now TP groups across America), realize, exposed, and against the damage of THE FED, THE PATRIOT ACT, or Liberties and Freedoms systematically being stripped.

The revolt against the huge Government establishment lining their pockets or for themselves immunites, special privledges, and growth of their imperial empire... has struck a nerve with Americans across all political persuasions ... Beck and FOX and FRIENDS knows this...

Beck is riding the wave, all the way to the bank and he can falsely fool himself as a "Do Gooder"

Never trust ANY MSM corporate outlet or their puppets running popularity games!


AGREED! I'm listening to this guy and he's saying all right things, all the same things that Ron Paul and the Ron Paul Teaparty movement was taking about back in '07-08. The Judge (and I luv the Judge) said, "More people are talking about the Constitution now largely because of Beck???? Give me a freakin' break! It was because of Ron Paul!

I'm loving what Beck is saying in that interview, but deep inside all my instincts are saying something is up. Can a person change his opinion about things? Of course they can. But this guy is a highly paid talking head on a corporate controlled news show. Let's ask ourselves this question: If Bush and the Republicans were still in charge and doing all the same things, would Beck be coming out as strong against the NWO and the Neo-Cons???

I'm still trying to figure out what this all actually means because it's freakin' wild to hear him bring up all these issues on his show when originally, they were issues only conspiracy nuts believed in! So I agree that he's just riding the wave and they're all hoping it will lead a Republican back into the Whitehouse. I swear, both sides are simply playing us and if people can't see that now, you're just not paying attention.

Imaginos
11-19-2010, 06:10 PM
I don't trust Beck.
I will change my mind when he endorses Ron Paul 2012.
But I am 99% sure he will endorse Sarah 'paid infiltrator' Palin.

djdellisanti4
11-19-2010, 06:18 PM
My view of Beck has dramatically changed. But I wonder, when Republicans are in power again, will he go back to "old" beck?

Sola_Fide
11-19-2010, 06:33 PM
If Glen Beck doesn't earnestly endorse Ron Paul in 2012, then I will waste no oppurtunity to rake him over the coals to every person I talk to.

payme_rick
11-19-2010, 07:22 PM
My view of Beck has dramatically changed. But I wonder, when Republicans are in power again, will he go back to "old" beck?

I'll give him this, his tone started changing a tad pre-obama... BUT, it accelerated dramatically around Jan. '09...

Matt Collins
11-22-2010, 03:47 PM
Kennedy and Shelly Roche should do a double interview with the Judge :D



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pacelli
11-22-2010, 05:13 PM
Geraldo reverses on 9/11 truth.

Now this.

I think somebody spiked my coffee with acid. :D

Don't worry, we're just one FF away from the trip ending in an, "increase the police state" mentality.

jmdrake
11-24-2010, 10:56 AM
Geraldo reverses on 9/11 truth.

Now this.

I think somebody spiked my coffee with acid. :D

And now Fox News is linking to an Alex Jones story and not for the purpose of ridiculing it.

http://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/23/ron-paul-crotch-groped-tsa-calls-boycott-airlines

Oh, did you catch the end of the Beck segment where he suggested that some people in government might be hoping for a terrorist attack in order to justify more oppression? Interesting days we live in. Interesting indeed.

AuH20
11-24-2010, 11:41 AM
My view of Beck has dramatically changed. But I wonder, when Republicans are in power again, will he go back to "old" beck?

The old Beck went after Bushie alot for the record.

Tonewah
11-24-2010, 02:45 PM
Good for him. I still don't believe him, and I wouldn't turn my back on him unless I wanted a deep tissue acupuncture with a Rambo knife.