John Stewart last night

[TheeJoeGlass]

That was funny.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-17-2010/-adult-spin-

[sailingaway]

Yeah, but the idea that Rand got personal while Spitzer was focusing on fixing the national deficit is nonsense. Spitzer REPEATEDLY got personal, and finally Rand pointed out that that could go both ways, and perhaps it should remain on a policy level.

I'm sorry the entire GOP stole Rand's 'adult conversation' line, though. It makes it sound like pablum when he was the ONLY ONE willing to talk about entitlement reform during the campaign...who won.

I'm not actually sure Stewart is on Spitzer's side in that, though...

[TheeJoeGlass]

Yeah, but the idea that Rand got personal while Spitzer was focusing on fixing the national deficit is nonsense. Spitzer REPEATEDLY got personal, and finally Rand pointed out that that could go both ways, and perhaps it should remain on a policy level.

I'm sorry the entire GOP stole Rand's 'adult conversation' line, though. It makes it sound like pablum when he was the ONLY ONE willing to talk about entitlement reform during the campaign...who won.

I'm not actually sure Stewart is on Spitzer's side in that, though...

I dont think he meant that Rand went personal, but that the conversation went there.

[paulpwns]

I dont think he meant that Rand went personal, but that the conversation went there.

Clever spin. He makes Rand to be bad in the beg. but the viewer has to decide at the end for themselves.

[ronaldo23]

I suspect that the Daily Show is going to give some pretty unfair coverage to Rand in the future. Ron and Jon Stewart seem to have pretty friendly relations, as he's been on the show twice, Ron has praised his comedy at a forum and Jon even questioned to Bill O'Reilly why Fox gave such unfavorable coverage to Ron Paul in '08.

BUT.... the creator of the Daily Show has a strong anti-Rand agenda, that is more specific than just anti-tea party. I remember her going on "Ed Schultz" and trying to rip him apart after the primary. And assuming she writes some of Jon's material, or is behind finding the media clips, get ready for a very selective narrative.

Maybe Rand should go on the show in the next few months? Doesn't seem like it could be a bad thing.

[BenIsForRon]

Maybe Rand should go on the show in the next few months? Doesn't seem like it could be a bad thing.

It would certainly be the most substantive of Rand's interviews so far. Jon always has good interviews with intelligent/philosophical guests.

[low preference guy]

John Stewart sucks

[jake]

John Stewart sucks

as far as liberals go, he's a good man :)

[surGeon]

Come on, guys. That was funny, and I think it reflected fine on Rand. Badass even. Jon Stewart and the Daily show isn't that bad. I'm not saying they haven't distorted the truth before on that show, because they have, but for the most part they're pretty fair and honest (keeping in mind that it's a comedy show). Let's wait and see.

[CheezItsRule]

I'm sorry the entire GOP stole Rand's 'adult conversation' line, though.

I noticed that, too. It's a little annoying but hey, didn't the rest of the GOP steal some of Ron's phrases during the pres. campaign, too?

[eqcitizen]

Come on all, that was funny. I haven't laughed out loud that much, this early in the morning in a while. Stewart was pointing to rand as the "adult" in that conversation. Besides i think that Stewart is someone who we can talk to and maybe change his mind on a few issues. He is level headed and most young people listen to him so its worth trying i think.

[sailingaway]

I like Stewart, but his genre is comedy, and I could see him asking all sorts of Aqua Buddha questions because HE doesn't think it's a big deal, but Rand thinks his voters feel otherwise.

Other than that, by and by, I wouldn't see a problem with Rand on his show. I'd like Rand to get his committee assignments and get his own agenda out there first, though.

[Bern]

...
I'm sorry the entire GOP stole Rand's 'adult conversation' line, though. ...

I hope they continue to steal material from Rand. It's the highest form of flattery. Not bad for a Senatorial n00b.

Go Rand Go. Set the agenda.

[sailingaway]

I hope they continue to steal material from Rand. It's the highest form of flattery. Not bad for a Senatorial n00b.

Go Rand Go. Set the agenda.

When they steal his AGENDA (and they have been for six months) I don't complain.

[Travlyr]

Jon Stewart is not funny; he is a tool. It's plain to see. Where is his comedy clip about ending the tyranny of the police state, the wars, high level crimes? YouTube, or it didn't happen. People all over the world are suffering & dying from the hands of tyranny.

People are going to have wake-up and choose, eventually. The sooner the better. Do you want liberty? Or do you want tyranny? Jon Stewart promotes tyranny through "comedy." His show is obvious mind control if your eyes are open.


Self-Government - Liberty, Sovereign Property Rights, Sound Money, Laissez-Faire Free-Market Capitalism


Elite Oligarchy - Tyranny, Property Taxation, Fiat Money, Socialistic Central Planning Control of the People and Markets

[ronaldo23]

Jon Stewart is not funny; he is a tool. It's plain to see. Where is his comedy clip about ending the tyranny of the police state, the wars, high level crimes? YouTube, or it didn't happen. People all over the world are suffering & dying from the hands of tyranny.

People are going to have wake-up and choose, eventually. The sooner the better. Do you want liberty? Or do you want tyranny? Jon Stewart promotes tyranny through "comedy." His show is obvious mind control if your eyes are open.


Self-Government - Liberty, Sovereign Property Rights, Sound Money, Laissez-Faire Free-Market Capitalism


Elite Oligarchy - Tyranny, Property Taxation, Fiat Money, Socialistic Central Planning Control of the People and Markets


Jon Stewart is funny, and he's infinitely better than anyone on msnbc. He is a liberal/supporter of the democratic party, but his goal is not to promote the official DNC agenda on his show to ensure democrats get re-elected for every office. He has given 2 very fair interviews to Ron in the past, and actually praised his book End the Fed as being incredibly thoughtful, so I wouldn't really say he's against our side. Plus he has called out Fox News for marginalizing Ron Paul on the O'reilly factor. Even Ron has praised him.

YouTube - Ron Paul talks about his respect for Jon Stewart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-YZueRAOR0)



Also, his rally for sanity show in D.C. had as many absurd and ridiculous clips from Keith Olbermann and Ed Schultz as it did from Glen Beck...

[AuH20]

Jon Stewart is not funny; he is a tool. It's plain to see. Where is his comedy clip about ending the tyranny of the police state, the wars, high level crimes? YouTube, or it didn't happen. People all over the world are suffering & dying from the hands of tyranny.

People are going to have wake-up and choose, eventually. The sooner the better. Do you want liberty? Or do you want tyranny? Jon Stewart promotes tyranny through "comedy." His show is obvious mind control if your eyes are open.


Self-Government - Liberty, Sovereign Property Rights, Sound Money, Laissez-Faire Free-Market Capitalism


Elite Oligarchy - Tyranny, Property Taxation, Fiat Money, Socialistic Central Planning Control of the People and Markets


It has more to do with his writers. Granted, he's a socialist but he's somewhat fair.

[sailingaway]

It has more to do with his writers. Granted, he's a socialist but he's somewhat fair.

I don't think it is a matter of him being for us or against us, I think it is a matter of him thinking journalism is supposed to perform a function in the United States, and his feeling journalism is falling down on the job.

[Travlyr]

Where is his comedy clip about ending the tyranny of the police state, the wars, high level crimes? YouTube, or it didn't happen.

[BenIsForRon]

Where is his comedy clip about ending the tyranny of the police state, the wars, high level crimes? YouTube, or it didn't happen.

Normally I wouldn't respond to your paranoid ramblings, but I have to post this classic segment.

YouTube - So You're Living in a Police State Stephen Colbert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd7P78w8cdA)

[gls]

The last time I watched The Daily Show was the day after this year's CPAC. Ron's straw poll victory was the big story to come out of the conference and it occupied headlines for several days. Yet that fact wasn't mentioned once, despite TDS devoting nearly the entire episode to making terrible jokes about what went on there. This is because Ron offers a real choice to young people and a real threat to the establishment. Stewart and his ilk do not want the next generation to find out about pro-peace, pro civil liberties conservatives, because then they might realize that Obama is basically Bush with a darker skin tone. For many, Stewart is their primary source of news and politics. Those who say he is "just a comedian" are hopelessly naive about how propaganda works.

[Travlyr]

Normally I wouldn't respond to your paranoid ramblings, but I have to post this classic segment.
Thanks for posting this. That video is classic dumbing down of the police state to keep you naive mind controlled (peak oil ... global warming ... big trucks are bad types) from understanding the world around you. Jon Stewart and Steven Cobert do a pretty good number on you ... like the "YouTube - The Banker" says, "keep watching your plasma TV."

Here is the real world...
YouTube - Denver Police brutality caught on tape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBnXJED7t_I)

[TheeJoeGlass]

The last time I watched The Daily Show was the day after this year's CPAC. Ron's straw poll victory was the big story to come out of the conference and it occupied headlines for several days. Yet that fact wasn't mentioned once, despite TDS devoting nearly the entire episode to making terrible jokes about what went on there. This is because Ron offers a real choice to young people and a real threat to the establishment. Stewart and his ilk do not want the next generation to find out about pro-peace, pro civil liberties conservatives, because then they might realize that Obama is basically Bush with a darker skin tone. For many, Stewart is their primary source of news and politics. Those who say he is "just a comedian" are hopelessly naive about how propaganda works.

Stewart would'nt cover Cpac on his show. Stewart is a liberal that wants to reason with everybody in a time with no reason. His show is funny and some of his interviews are spot on. His Obama interview will go down in history as he is the first person to address a sitting President as "Dude" after Obama made a stupid gaffe.

And some of his interviews with people like Al Global Gore makes me want to put my fist through a wall. Anyone that interviews Gore without bringing up his debate with Ross Perot over Nafta, sucks. Stewart will ride a guy like Dick Armey like he hurt someone, but give Robert Reich a pass. Bernine Goldberg called him out on that and it stung Stewart imo.

I watch Stewart everyday with the understanding that I disagree with him on core principals while still enjoying his political commentary.

[gls]

Stewart would'nt cover Cpac on his show.

Oh, he "covered" it all right, in a "look at these dumb neocons and social conservatives, aren't you glad you're a Democrat?" kind of way. What he didn't do is mention Ron Paul's straw poll victory, undeniably the main narrative to come out of the event, because that didn't mesh with the false left-right spectrum he is constantly reinforcing.

[BenIsForRon]

Thanks for posting this. That video is classic dumbing down of the police state to keep you naive mind controlled (peak oil ... global warming ... big trucks are bad types) from understanding the world around you. Jon Stewart and Steven Cobert do a pretty good number on you ... like the "YouTube - The Banker" says, "keep watching your plasma TV."

Wow, the examples in your post have nothing to do with the video. Did you black out and dream that you watched it?

[CAKochenash]

I noticed that, too. It's a little annoying but hey, didn't the rest of the GOP steal some of Ron's phrases during the pres. campaign, too?

Sure, just ask Mike Huckabee.

[Teaser Rate]

Normally I wouldn't respond to your paranoid ramblings, but I have to post this classic segment.

YouTube - So You're Living in a Police State Stephen Colbert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd7P78w8cdA)

Great clip, I wish more people around here had a sense of humor and didn't have to take everything so seriously.

[TheeJoeGlass]

Oh, he "covered" it all right, in a "look at these dumb neocons and social conservatives, aren't you glad you're a Democrat?" kind of way. What he didn't do is mention Ron Paul's straw poll victory, undeniably the main narrative to come out of the event, because that didn't mesh with the false left-right spectrum he is constantly reinforcing.

You are correct, he did cover it and I was wrong for assuming that he did'nt. The way he covered it does bother me. I am glad that he stays away from making fun of Ron and Rand. I do not understand his thoughts on Ron though. After watching the interview, I thought he was friendly. And again when he challenged O'reilly about Ron. Why would he do that if he was'nt a supporter? But I think his audience is liberal all the way now after the last year.

I still enjoyed the Obama interview but I have to agree with you about the spectrum issue.

[sailingaway]

You are correct, he did cover it and I was wrong for assuming that he did'nt. The way he covered it does bother me. I am glad that he stays away from making fun of Ron and Rand. I do not understand his thoughts on Ron though. After watching the interview, I thought he was friendly. And again when he challenged O'reilly about Ron. Why would he do that if he was'nt a supporter? But I think his audience is liberal all the way now after the last year.

I still enjoyed the Obama interview but I have to agree with you about the spectrum issue.

He isn't exactly a supporter, but thinks Fox shut Ron out of the popular debate, not just the one on stage. He said if Fox really wants what they say they want, they should be all over Ron, not all against him. I think he likes Ron better than he likes Fox, and would like to have Ron and Rand's voices at least in the debate.

[AminCad]

The last time I watched The Daily Show was the day after this year's CPAC. Ron's straw poll victory was the big story to come out of the conference and it occupied headlines for several days. Yet that fact wasn't mentioned once, despite TDS devoting nearly the entire episode to making terrible jokes about what went on there. This is because Ron offers a real choice to young people and a real threat to the establishment.

Exactly, the dedicated 'progressives' probably support more of the positions of the Ron Paul movement than that of mainstream Republicans, but they fear Ron Paul's message, because it's better than their ideology, and so they will work against it.

[Promontorium]

Stewart covers Dr. Paul seriously like Russia Today covers Dr. Paul. They have an agenda, and it stinks of 'the enemy of my enemy'.

I do believe Stewart was trying to make a valid criticism of Rand, however Stewart is wrong, despite enjoying dropping some logic fallacy titles while criticizing Paul, he pulls one himself claiming a discussion about someone's personal income is appropriate to a discussion about A NATIONAL BUDGET. It doesn't follow, but I've seen this argument used religiously by people, the 'it takes one to know one' argument, always coupled with a backwards logic accusation of hypicrisy. Spitzer was most definitely trying to make the argument that because Paul made money from the federal government programs through his patients, then he is a hypocrite . There is no way out of it, because it isn't logic, but let me illustrate how stupid and yet emotionally appealing it is, and why so many in the media, and their puppets use it:

Hypothetical Paul actually falling into Spitzer's trap:

TAKE ONE
Spitzer: So you made a lot of money from these government programs.
Paul: That is true.
Spitzer: Are you going to cut them?
Paul: No, because I know they work.
Spitzer: AH HA! So you'll cut other programs, but not the one's that pad your wallet, you're a hypocrite!

TAKE TWO
Spitzer: So you made a lot of money from these government programs.
Paul: That is true.
Spitzer: Are you going to cut them?
Paul: Yes, because they are inefficient.
Spitzer: AH HA! So you'll PROFIT from those programs, but now that you're in office and don't need them, you'll cut them, you're a hypocrite!


Either way, hypocrite. Yet that's impossible. But people gobble this shit up all the time. Their pea sized brains don't calculate that one does not follow the other. And I see this shit every day on the news. Reporters and pundits and pretty much anyone will pull this to appeal to a slower thinking ADD majority. Rand was a smooth operator catching that shit. Stewart is a dipshit, because he still buys into that logic, and thinks he slammed Rand for having a "you can talk about anything serious, as long as it isn't serious to me" moment. Stewart and that dumb audience would never think Spitzer's question was non sequitur to the discussion and purely a trap "gotcha" question.

[AminCad]

Either way, hypocrite. Yet that's impossible. But people gobble this shit up all the time. Their pea sized brains don't calculate that one does not follow the other. And I see this shit every day on the news. Reporters and pundits and pretty much anyone will pull this to appeal to a slower thinking ADD majority. Rand was a smooth operator catching that shit. Stewart is a dipshit, because he still buys into that logic, and thinks he slammed Rand for having a "you can talk about anything serious, as long as it isn't serious to me" moment. Stewart and that dumb audience would never think Spitzer's question was non sequitur to the discussion and purely a trap "gotcha" question.

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