PDA

View Full Version : Attention International RP Supporters




Revolution9
06-09-2007, 07:39 AM
You are probably here due to your curiosity about Ron Paul and to see the American people take that country back for the sake of the world. You may not be able to vote in the elections [I can't as I am Canadian in Atlanta but my sons are and grandchildren will be American. I am doing what I can] but you can still do something to help us take back the reins of the country. The MSM may hold the media puppet strings in ths country but if we get the entire world buzzing about this and the hope to bring the belligerent beast to heel issuing the orders..we can win certainly.

If you have any media outlets that have what you believe would be sympathetic ears then please alert them as to what is occurring. This MSM blackout is big news and the world needs to know about it.

We are doing our best and need all the help from everywhere we can muster up.

Best Regards
'Randy

Mattsa
06-09-2007, 08:02 AM
You are probably here due to your curiosity about Ron Paul and to see the American people take that country back for the sake of the world. You may not be able to vote in the elections [I can't as I am Canadian in Atlanta but my sons are and grandchildren will be American. I am doing what I can] but you can still do something to help us take back the reins of the country. The MSM may hold the media puppet strings in ths country but if we get the entire world buzzing about this and the hope to bring the belligerent beast to heel issuing the orders..we can win certainly.

If you have any media outlets that have what you believe would be sympathetic ears then please alert them as to what is occurring. This MSM blackout is big news and the world needs to know about it.

We are doing our best and need all the help from everywhere we can muster up.

Best Regards
'Randy

Hi Randy

I have mailed the BBC on more than one occassion about the RP phenonomen, so far to no avail. I've pointed out that aside from the actual policies RP advocates, the social upheaval that will occur in the next year is a fantastic news story in its own right

I also post regularly on www.housepricecrash.co.uk and there are several Ron Paul fans posting on the forum there.

The big differerence between the US and the UK right now is that this kind of big government control freakery we are seeing in America is a relatively new thing. In the UK however, the people are much more used to the government telling them how to behave, how to live, how to think etc. The UK isn't ready for a Ron Paul type character. Only a small number of people would find his libertarian principles attractive. This is largely due to the fact that the UK has never been a constitutional republic. People here don't understand the concept of self responsibility and self determination in the same way as Americans. We have huge numbers of people here paid by the taxpayer to stay at home everyday and watch the diet of drivel on daytime TV. We have millions.....yes...millions of Eastern Europeans coming into our country to do the jobs we are too lazy to do ourselves. They are hard working, well educated, polite and big help to our economy but we don't seem to understand that we shouldn't be paying our own citizens benefits when they should be doing these jobs themselves.The English certainly don't understand the concepts of sound money either! The average punter in the UK has absolutely no idea what money is, where it comes from, who creates it, or whether it is commodity backed.

Mattsa
06-09-2007, 08:04 AM
You are probably here due to your curiosity about Ron Paul and to see the American people take that country back for the sake of the world. You may not be able to vote in the elections [I can't as I am Canadian in Atlanta but my sons are and grandchildren will be American. I am doing what I can] but you can still do something to help us take back the reins of the country. The MSM may hold the media puppet strings in ths country but if we get the entire world buzzing about this and the hope to bring the belligerent beast to heel issuing the orders..we can win certainly.

If you have any media outlets that have what you believe would be sympathetic ears then please alert them as to what is occurring. This MSM blackout is big news and the world needs to know about it.

We are doing our best and need all the help from everywhere we can muster up.

Best Regards
'Randy

There is one good way you could raise the awareness of the British

See if you can get any English bands to appear at the BandsforRonPaul event in July. Getting the attention of young people is really important

qednick
06-09-2007, 09:19 AM
Mattsa, the Daily Telegraph are likely to cover RP in some shape or form. They tend to be less into the whole censorship thingy than the other papers. It's just unfortunate that they don't have the biggest circulation.

It's also very sad that "The Sun" tabloid tends to be what most Brits consider a "real newspaper". To give my American colleagues an idea of what I'm talking about: "The Sun" tabloid is like the National Inqurier on steriods. :(

angelatc
06-09-2007, 09:22 AM
The thing we need from Europe and Canda, IMHO, is pressure to stop nation-building. Let the Muslims be Muslims, and run a Muslim country.

angelatc
06-09-2007, 09:23 AM
Mattsa, the Daily Telegraph are likely to cover RP in some shape or form. They tend to be less into the whole censorship thingy than the other papers. It's just unfortunate that they don't have the biggest circulation.

It's also very sad that "The Sun" tabloid tends to be what most Brits consider a "real newspaper". To give my American colleagues an idea of what I'm talking about: "The Sun" tabloid is like the National Inqurier on steriods. :(

Yes, we have "The New York Post" on this side of the pond.

Delivered4000
06-09-2007, 09:27 AM
There is a huge international following, that is of the people who know or have heard of Ron Paul, but I don't know how we could use that to our advantage.

qednick
06-09-2007, 09:27 AM
Yes, we have "The New York Post" on this side of the pond.

Oh, I always thought the New York Post was novelty toilet paper. :rolleyes:

torchbearer
06-09-2007, 09:44 AM
Maybe other nations should start questioning the legitamacy of our elected officials. We are becoming like the soviet union. sure we get to go to the ballot box, but we can only vote for certain people... the people the MSM crown as "top tier" while degrading the unanointed as fringe or "second tier".
group think takes over and then you get george bush elected. deja vu?

graystar
06-09-2007, 09:53 AM
I am an Aussie living in London, and from what I see Ron Paul's ideas would be so foreign to the general populace here that they would mix as well as oil and water. The reason being that there is now no small government party in the UK at all. All of them are now socialist to some extent, and bringing up ideas about removing the NHS gets people very angry.

The same way neocons hold on the idea of nation building, people in Europe still believe the government can help you have better health care, and save the poor.

qednick
06-09-2007, 09:59 AM
I am an Aussie living in London, and from what I see Ron Paul's ideas would be so foreign to the general populace here that they would mix as well as oil and water. The reason being that there is now no small government party in the UK at all. All of them are now socialist to some extent, and bringing up ideas about removing the NHS gets people very angry.

The same way neocons hold on the idea of nation building, people in Europe still believe the government can help you have better health care, and save the poor.

Absolutely true! The UK has become absolutely and thoroughly socialist just like the rest of Europe. The USA will be next if we're not careful.

graystar
06-09-2007, 10:01 AM
Absolutely true! The UK has become absolutely and thoroughly socialist just like the rest of Europe. The USA will be next if we're not careful.

To give you an example the "right" party - Conservatives or Tory Party, have taken the discussion removing the NHS off the table now. They basically have adopted it as one of their positions

I hope the US wakes up for RP, as the waves will hopefully break across the Atlantic and Pacific to Europe and Australia.

maxwell
06-09-2007, 10:02 AM
Iīm a British guy living in Spain and as far as I know he has quite a large following in the UK. Over here itīs a little too early for the Spanish media to start talking about him at a mass level but some mainstream newspaper websites have acknowledged how popular he is online with his ever increasing numbers on YouTube, myspace etc. Many Spanish political blogs are also talking about him and how important he would be both for the USA and also internationally. The funny thing is most people view him in the exact same light as some Americans do.

It is no secret that most if not all Europeans absolutely hate Bush and his foreign policy has caused animosity and even hatred towards the US. If a Bush clone is elected President I hate to think what will happen in the long term. The next British Prime Minister will not be allowed to serve such an alliegance as Tony Blair did to the US as Blair has not been forgiven for the war on Iraq. There is also tension between the current Spanish Government and the US as Condolezzaīs trip to Spain recently showed.

There is much I could say about terrorism as both the UK and Spain have suffered from it. Also, here we have a National ID card which we need to carry at all times and is used whenever you buy with a credit card or if you are stopped by the police. In anyone wants to know more Iīll be glad to disuss these issues.

All I can say is that I sincerely hope Americans choose wisely their next President.

Mattsa
06-09-2007, 10:07 AM
Mattsa, the Daily Telegraph are likely to cover RP in some shape or form. They tend to be less into the whole censorship thingy than the other papers. It's just unfortunate that they don't have the biggest circulation.

It's also very sad that "The Sun" tabloid tends to be what most Brits consider a "real newspaper". To give my American colleagues an idea of what I'm talking about: "The Sun" tabloid is like the National Inqurier on steriods. :(

The Telegraph is the best of a rotton bunch Nick, but there are a few journalists now writing some good stuff about Briar and Browns' 'Miracle economy' Edmund Conway and Jeff Randall clearly can see right through the spin and both have contributed excellent articles to the Telegraph. Another journo to look out for is Larry Elliot who writes for....wait for it......the Guardian, traditionally a very left wing paper. Larry Elliot has just published a book called Fantasy Island which paints the UK as a nation that has saddled the next generation with unprecedented levels of debt. We are a class obsessed nation borrowing money to buy stuff we can't possible ever pay for....apparently! Sounds familiar huh!

I was out in London with a friend last night who is trying very hard to promote his rock band. Apparently, he has found an individual who wants to finance a music video for him. This guy is Ģ40,000 in debt and says he'll put up the money to promote my friends band because he is gonna go bankrupt anyway. That's how much people value someone elses money here. This kinda attitude is all too common over here now.

The UK is in serious trouble now. The future for the youngsters is pretty grim. The tax burden alone of Gordon Brown's 'Private Finannce Initiative', NuLab's plan to build our schools and hospitals, will bankrupt our future generation.

You know the drill Nick! Most people are too preoccupied reading about Paris Hilton, the Beckhams, the Royal family and the new series of Big Brother to give a fig about what is going on.

My plan is to get my house on the market real quick and move to Oregon with my girlfriend. Maybe I'll get a chance to participate in the Ron Paul roadshw too!

Too bad for the Brits......they should have kept their eyes on the ball alright, not the soccer variety

qednick
06-09-2007, 10:08 AM
Iīm a British guy living in Spain and as far as I know he has quite a large following in the UK. Over here itīs a little too early for the Spanish media to start talking about him at a mass level but some mainstream newspaper websites have acknowledged how popular he is online with his ever increasing numbers on YouTube, myspace etc. Many Spanish political blogs are also talking about him and how important he would be both for the USA and also internationally. The funny thing is most people view him in the exact same light as some Americans do.

It is no secret that most if not all Europeans absolutely hate Bush and his foreign policy has caused animosity and even hatred towards the US. If a Bush clone is elected President I hate to think what will happen in the long term. The next British Prime Minister will not be allowed to serve such an alliegance as Tony Blair did to the US as Blair has not been forgiven for the war on Iraq. There is also tension between the current Spanish Government and the US as Condolezzaīs trip to Spain recently showed.

There is much I could say about terrorism as both the UK and Spain have suffered from it. Also, here we have a National ID card which we need to carry at all times and is used whenever you buy with a credit card or if you are stopped by the police. In anyone wants to know more Iīll be glad to disuss these issues.

All I can say is that I sincerely hope Americans choose wisely their next President.

Welcome to the forums Maxwell. I moved to the US in 2000. My mother and stepfather are looking to move to Spain in October. My father and stepmother have also considered moving away from the UK - possibly to France. I have a friend and his wife moving to Canada in a couple of months. I have other friends who really really wish they could move if they were in a position to do so.

It's such a shame that a country can go down the pan to such an extent in such a short period of time once it embraces the big government idealogy like the UK did. :(

qednick
06-09-2007, 10:12 AM
The Telegraph is the best of a rotton bunch Nick, but there are a few journalists now writing some good stuff about Briar and Browns' 'Miracle economy' Edmund Conway and Jeff Randall clearly can see right through the spin and both have contributed excellent articles to the Telegraph. Another journo to look out for is Larry Elliot who writes for....wait for it......the Guardian, traditionally a very left wing paper. Larry Elliot has just published a book called Fantasy Island which paints the UK as a nation that has saddled the next generation with unprecedented levels of debt. We are a class obsessed nation borrowing money to buy stuff we can't possible ever pay for....apparently! Sounds familiar huh!

I was out in London with a friend last night who is trying very hard to promote his rock band. Apparently, he has found an individual who wants to finance a music video for him. This guy is Ģ40,000 in debt and says he'll put up the money to promote my friends band because he is gonna go bankrupt anyway. That's how much people value someone elses money here. This kinda attitude is all too common over here now.

The UK is in serious trouble now. The future for the youngsters is pretty grim. The tax burden alone of Gordon Brown's 'Private Finannce Initiative', NuLab's plan to build our schools and hospitals, will bankrupt our future generation.

You know the drill Nick! Most people are too preoccupied reading about Paris Hilton, the Beckhams, the Royal family and the new series of Big Brother to give a fig about what is going on.

My plan is to get my house on the market real quick and move to Oregon with my girlfriend. Maybe I'll get a chance to participate in the Ron Paul roadshw too!

Too bad for the Brits......they should have kept their eyes on the ball alright, not the soccer variety

I'm with ya! I turned on the news this morning here only to immediately see a photo of a very tearful Paris Hilton in the back of a panda car being taken back to the slammer. It's amazing how some celebrity bullshit like that can get so many people riled up so much that the authorities worry about an armed uprising... yet people couldn't care less when it comes to the Patriot Act or Real ID Acts. :mad:

Revolution9
06-09-2007, 10:13 AM
Iīm a British guy living in Spain and as far as I know he has quite a large following in the UK. Over here itīs a little too early for the Spanish media to start talking about him at a mass level but some mainstream newspaper websites have acknowledged how popular he is online with his ever increasing numbers on YouTube, myspace etc. Many Spanish political blogs are also talking about him and how important he would be both for the USA and also internationally. The funny thing is most people view him in the exact same light as some Americans do.
~snipped for brevity

All I can say is that I sincerely hope Americans choose wisely their next President.

Yes indeed Maxwell. Thanks for the info on the European blogs handling his campaign news in a positive light.. If we could get internationally penned pieces as part of the campaign and individual video and blog or news article materials to show the rest of the world is truly concerned about the American People and would view a Ron Paul Presidency as returning some moral ascendancy and diplomatic trust to Nations of Thw World. If you come across any please post them here and we will disseminate rapidly.

Thanks for your input.

Best Regards
Randy

Mattsa
06-09-2007, 10:16 AM
I am an Aussie living in London, and from what I see Ron Paul's ideas would be so foreign to the general populace here that they would mix as well as oil and water. The reason being that there is now no small government party in the UK at all. All of them are now socialist to some extent, and bringing up ideas about removing the NHS gets people very angry.

The same way neocons hold on the idea of nation building, people in Europe still believe the government can help you have better health care, and save the poor.


I'm afraid your right!

The NHS is where the buck stops for the British. People cannot understand that government interference in the HNS is what makes it sooooooo inefficient and costly. The attitude of the people is that this is a price worth paying to keep it out of private hands. The problem is, we simply can't afford it, especially when we finance it with PFI. The deals struck between the government and the private companies who will build our future schools and hospitals were very poorly done. It is reckoned, some of the deals will cost 7 times the capital costs in interest payments. How would we feel if we paid 7 times the capital we borrowed to buy a house in interest repayments????? There'd be a civil war!!! But that's what these NuLab idiots have done!

maxwell
06-09-2007, 10:25 AM
Thanks qednick. :)

Yeah, itīs hard to find a safe & sane place to live in these days. I used to dream of living in the US as itīs still a beautiful and interesting country but nowadays I would definetely not move over there. I also love Britain but as you say, itīs also going down the drain in many aspects. When I hear about "police state" the good olīblighty comes to mind. I still get chills when I remember the 2000 new year celebrations in London. Most of the people in the centre of the city that night had no way of getting home as all public transport had been semi-closed down because of the stupid millenium bug. Me and my girlfriend were trying to get on the tube, but the only open station we found had a cue circulating the block. Around it policemen on horses with batons were patrolling around and their behaviour was Orwellian to say the least. I wonīt go into the actual state of politics there because itīs in shambles.

Spain is still lagging behind because of the dictatorship it once endured, so itīs still a relatively safe and healthy country to live in... and the weather is not bad either! At least they removed their troops from Iraq and have a sane foreign policy.

Iīm sincerely worried about the US though and how things will pan out in the next few years or if they continue the nation buliding and pre-emptive strike policies.

Mattsa
06-09-2007, 10:29 AM
Thanks qednick. :)

Yeah, itīs hard to find a safe & sane place to live in these days. I used to dream of living in the US as itīs still a beautiful and interesting country but nowadays I would definetely not move over there. I also love Britain but as you say, itīs also going down the drain in many aspects. When I hear about "police state" the good olīblighty comes to mind. I still get chills when I remember the 2000 new year celebrations in London. Most of the people in the centre of the city that night had no way of getting home as all public transport had been semi-closed down because of the stupid millenium bug. Me and my girlfriend were trying to get on the tube, but the only open station we found had a cue circulating the block. Around it policemen on horses with batons were patrolling around and their behaviour was Orwellian to say the least. I wonīt go into the actual state of politics there because itīs in shambles.

Spain is still lagging behind because of the dictatorship it once endured, so itīs still a relatively safe and healthy country to live in... and the weather is not bad either! At least they removed their troops from Iraq and have a sane foreign policy.

Iīm sincerely worried about the US though and how things will pan out in the next few years or if they continue the nation buliding and pre-emptive strike policies.

I've always had a soft spot for Spain. I visited Spain alot in the early 90's, before they sold themselves to satan....THE EURO

It was fantastic, and still is in many ways. I'd still consider living there, up in the Pyrenees!

qednick
06-09-2007, 10:33 AM
My mother and step-father are moving to somewhere in the Adalucien (spelling?) mountains.

maxwell
06-09-2007, 10:37 AM
REVOLUTION9: Iīll get all the info I can an post it here.

MATTSA: It really is a nice country to live in. In many ways things are more simple here but the European Union is meddling with the countryīs politics as was to be expected. At first I despised the Euro and still believe each country should have itīs own currency but in the end you get used to it and find the positive side. As long as itīs doing well, most Euro countries seem to be OK with it. Still, I would hate to see the Pound disappear.

The Pyrenees are great. Whenever I visit Andorra I wish I lived there.

Mattsa
06-09-2007, 10:37 AM
Andalucia.

It very very hot!

Seville is a beautiful city. The people are quite brassy compared with northern Spain. The Aragonese, Basques and Galacians are more like the Irish. Fab people!

Mattsa
06-09-2007, 10:44 AM
REVOLUTION9: Iīll get all the info I can an post it here.

MATTSA: It really is a nice country to live in. In many ways things are more simple here but the European Union is meddling with the countryīs politics as was to be expected. At first I despised the Euro and still believe each country should have itīs own currency but in the end you get used to it and find the positive side. As long as itīs doing well, most Euro countries seem to be OK with it. Still, I would hate to see the Pound disappear.

The Pyrenees are great. Whenever I visit Andorra I wish I lived there.

The Euro has increased the cost of living for a lot of people in Spain. They've had the usual real estate boom too though I hear this is looking pretty shaky at the moment.

When i first vivited Spain in 1992, we did a grand tour by car. We visited the Santander, Bilbao, the Pyrenees, Madrid, Seville, Barcelona, Valencia and back to Huesca in Aragon. This was just 18 years after General Franco and the whole country was still in TOTAL PARTY mode! It was absolutely fantastic, especially for the young people. The Spanish and Portugese are the only people left in Europe who really know how to party and enjoy life to the full. They make the French and Germans look so dull by comparison!

Mattsa
06-09-2007, 10:45 AM
REVOLUTION9: Iīll get all the info I can an post it here.

MATTSA: It really is a nice country to live in. In many ways things are more simple here but the European Union is meddling with the countryīs politics as was to be expected. At first I despised the Euro and still believe each country should have itīs own currency but in the end you get used to it and find the positive side. As long as itīs doing well, most Euro countries seem to be OK with it. Still, I would hate to see the Pound disappear.

The Pyrenees are great. Whenever I visit Andorra I wish I lived there.

And Spanish women.........HUBBA HUBBA HUBBA!!!!!

jon_perez
06-09-2007, 10:58 AM
Socialism seems to work great in Canada, Europe and Singapore, but not so much in the United States. Maybe it has a lot to do with culture.

Too many people make the wrong (I believe) assumption that this or that system is automatically the right one for all kinds of people everywhere. I don't think it's as simple as that. Heck, don't the neocons think this way??

Going back to our candidate, Ron Paul has these ideas that he believes in, but I don't he ever took it upon himself to impose such ideas on other people. Every time he speaks, you get the sense that he fully realizes that it is only if enough people believe in his message that there would be any point in running. So in a sense it is about democracy - what system the people want - and not about whether libertarianism or socialism is the right way to go.

joenaab
06-09-2007, 11:01 AM
FYI, - I get visitors from over 40 countries to my site, so someone is paying attention.

Note: There is still firm common ground to be found between England and the Ron Paul movement. There are many English and europeans who, though they are happy with socialized health care, are actively fighting the WHO's 2009 implementation of Codex Alimentarius, which will make all dietary supplements illegal without a prescription. There is the non-agression platform, there is closing the Bank of England (parallel to closing our Fed), there are privacy issues, drug prohibition reform, and much more.

Oh, and I can say that Brazil, though not immune from the NWO offensive, is a nice place to live.

qednick
06-09-2007, 11:05 AM
FYI, - I get visitors from over 40 countries to my site, so someone is paying attention.

Note: There is still firm common ground to be found between England and the Ron Paul movement. There are many English and europeans who, though they are happy with socialized health care, are actively fighting the WHO's 2009 implementation of Codex Alimentarius, which will make all dietary supplements illegal without a prescription. There is the non-agression platform, there is closing the Bank of England (parallel to closing our Fed), there are privacy issues, drug prohibition reform, and much more.

Oh, and I can say that Brazil, though not immune from the NWO offensive, is a nice place to live.

Some friends of mine just spent about a month in Brazil and had a blast. They loved it!

qednick
06-09-2007, 11:08 AM
Socialism seems to work great in Canada, Europe and Singapore, but not so much in the United States. Maybe it has a lot to do with culture.

Too many people make the wrong (I believe) assumption that this or that system is automatically the right one for all kinds of people everywhere. I don't think it's as simple as that. Heck, don't the neocons think this way??

Going back to our candidate, Ron Paul has these ideas that he believes in, but I don't he ever took it upon himself to impose such ideas on other people. Every time he speaks, you get the sense that he fully realizes that it is only if enough people believe in his message that there would be any point in running. So in a sense it is about democracy - what system the people want - and not about whether libertarianism or socialism is the right way to go.

It's the nannyness and statism that gets me. Singapore is the ultimate nanny state. But everyday now, I read UK newspapers online and all I see everyday is ban-this-ban-that and tax-this-tax-that. It's really alarming!! I grew up in England in the 70's. We didn't have CCTV cameras watching our every moves nor government databases on computers. There were cops on the streets and people actually respected them back then.

maxwell
06-09-2007, 11:08 AM
The Euro has increased the cost of living for a lot of people in Spain. They've had the usual real estate boom too though I hear this is looking pretty shaky at the moment.

When i first vivited Spain in 1992, we did a grand tour by car. We visited the Santander, Bilbao, the Pyrenees, Madrid, Seville, Barcelona, Valencia and back to Huesca in Aragon. This was just 18 years after General Franco and the whole country was still in TOTAL PARTY mode! It was absolutely fantastic, especially for the young people. The Spanish and Portugese are the only people left in Europe who really know how to party and enjoy life to the full. They make the French and Germans look so dull by comparison!

I agree with all that. The cost of living has increased substancially and the real estate market is pure extortion in the large cities like Barcelona, where I live. Still, the goregous Spanish women do make up for it somehow! ;)

kimosabi
06-09-2007, 11:50 AM
Well, as an Australian, I have watched John Howard systematically remove the civil rights of individuals, under the guise of fighting Terrorism.

The most disturbing thing for me though, is coming to the realisation that it is our current political leaders and central bankers, that are the real terrorists of the world.

If Ron Paul does get elected and if he does remove the IRS and Federal Reserve in America and re-introduces the Gold Standard, this will have massive repercussions around the world for all countries.

By taking the above action, not only will he force all other countries running a FIAT money system to re-address just how they are going to Trade with the US, but it will blow the whistle on all other Reserve Banks around the world. I think the populations of all these country's, once they realise they have been being duped, are going to start demanding the re-introduction of the Gold Standard, because the Gold Standard keeps these governments and central bankers honest.

The most disturbing action of Bush/Blair/Howard and it seems most other countries that participated in the Iraq War, was the lowering of Interest Rates at the beginning of the Iraq War. Lowering interest rates to 1% in the United States was absurd, and now Americans are beginning to pay for this attrocity on it's own people.

With America's Housing Bubble bursting and imminent recession and quite possibly depression, America and sunsequently the rest of the World is sitting on the precipice of economic chaos. This, I am sure has all been done deliberately, because it's quite difficult to create a police state in a country full of rich people, but it's relatively easy if everyone is poor, unemployed and battling foreclosure/bankruptcy.

Spain's housing bubble has also started imploding, and I am waiting for Australia's and the United Kingdoms housing bubbles to implode at any tick of the clock as well. This will probably happen when the world starts dumping the US dollar.

I am certain the lowering of Interest Rates was primarily done to pacify the populaces of the participating countries by creating huge Asset Bubbles and give the illusion to the populace that they have never had it so good. Interest Rates at 1% create Huge Speculative Housing Bubbles(the like of which has never been seen before in human history) in all the participating countries of the Iraq war.

See Chart Below

http://www.speculativebubble.com/images/homevalues1.gif

Unless you have managed to pay off the bulk of your debts and mortgages, you are in for a world full of pain. We are just about to go into a hyper-inflationary/hyper-deflationary period in the World economy which is going to wipe out everyone who has large amounts of unservicable debt.

The worst bit is that the Bush/Blair/Howard's of the world know exactly what is going to happen, when interest rates are lowered too far. A speculative boom in Property and Stocks is triggered. Housing prices go through the roof, Stocks go through the roof and everyone has the illusion that they have never has it so good, that is until the money tap is turned off. This then crashes Property and Stock Prices for everyone who got sucked in, gets wiped out.

The people who print the money, know exactly when the tap is going to be turned off and position themselves accordingly. The people who control the money supply are probably the most evil people on the planet, because they deliberately boom and bust the World's economies.

This is where the saying comes from"In a recession, money returns to it's rightful owner" - The person who created the money is it's rightful owner, the Central Bankers.

What is even worse, is that the US dollars is currently so quickly that countries are starting to de-peg their currencies from the US dollar, because the de-valueing US dollar is creating rampant inflation in the countries that are pegged to the US Dollar. Syria and Kuwait just announced that they are removing their peg against the US dollar, and this appears to only be the beginning.

I cringe when I think of what China's reaction is going to be when they realise that the 1.2 Trillion dollars of American Currency they have accumulated in the last few years selling Plasma TV's and trinkets to the US is actually worthless.

All I can suggest to everyone is get rid of as much debt as possible, and hopefully if Ron Paul get in, he will be able to stop the United States sinking into a Depression. I don't think he will be able to stop a Recession in the United States because it will most likely have started before he can become President, sorry guys.

carla8478
06-09-2007, 01:18 PM
Those of you who are oversees also could send funds to your friends in the states and have them donate to the campaign for you.

CJLauderdale4
06-09-2007, 01:25 PM
Careful carla, although the Fed probably won't check every donors bank account, funnelling international money for Presidential donations is not exactly legal (don't forget Al Gore's visit to the Buddhist Temple).

However, I'm not sure how giving is controled through Political Action Committees (PACs) since they a really organizaions, and not individuals.

angrydragon
06-09-2007, 01:27 PM
I think it'll be safe for international supports of Ron Paul to donate here for a Ron Paul ad.

http://people4paul.com/