Archie Bunker on gun control

[raistlinkishtar]

Fantastic piece of leftist programming from the 70s. I'm amazed how effective this show was at pushing cultural marxism.

YouTube - Archie Bunker on Gun Control (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjNJI54GMM&NR=1)

[heavenlyboy34]

Yeah, it was also effective in pushing stereotypical portrayals of whites, blacks, women, etc

[Dripping Rain]

this was a propaganda piece to brainwash idiots into supporting gun control. Some people actually think it was promoting gun rights lol

[Anti Federalist]

this was a propaganda piece to brainwash idiots into supporting gun control. Some people actually think it was promoting gun rights lol

That +1

[pcosmar]

I used to like the guy until he came out with a bunch of anti-gun and Pro Drug War bullshit.

Blames drug dealers for his son rather that blaming his son's lack of responsibility.
:(

[Pericles]

The "left" thought everybody in the US was watching the show in order to laugh at Archie Bunker. After the sales of the "Archie Bunker for President" stuff started to sell out big time, did they get the clue that the show was popular because a good bit of the country was Archie Bunker.

[raistlinkishtar]

Yeah, it was also effective in pushing stereotypical portrayals of whites, blacks, women, etc

They pushed sterotypes alright.

- Socialists were the good guys
- Blacks were law abiding, well spoken and handy around the house.
- Whites who didn't embrace multiculturalism couldn't pronounce big words.
- They even dug up a list of long suffering, tender hearted Jewish people that were so understanding of Archie and his difference of opinion.


Just like in real life. :D

[acptulsa]

I suspect the kids here underestimate the influence this show had. Back when there were only three networks, it was one of the most ubiquitous parts of American culture. And yes, it was pure propaganda. Anyone who wonders why conservatism in the U.S. is equated with racism when in many other parts of the world (Nazi Germany, anyone?) socialism uses racism to its ends far, far more often.

I suspect there's a reason you just never see All in the Family on reruns. It's not because it didn't have a great cast, nor because it wasn't funny. It did, and it was. It's because forty years later, the propaganda that is built into each episode is more plainly apparent than it was at the time.

We could really, really stand to turn this on its head. A sitcom based on someone brainlessly spouting liberal propaganda while another, or others, remind them of simple truths like, 'You can't have freedom unless you can stand for your neighbors to be free as well,' could be just the ticket today.

We really need to get serious about founding a liberty television channel.


I used to like the guy until he came out with a bunch of anti-gun and Pro Drug War bullshit.

To no small degree, the drug war was part of a large effort to manufacture the famous 'generation gap' of the Sixties. Not hard to see why. There were people of all ages questioning the point of Vietnam, and questioning whether it was moral and right to fight that war and to draft people to go fight that war. The 'generation gap' helped keep that in check, at least for a few very profitable years.


They pushed sterotypes alright.

- Blacks were law abiding, well spoken and handy around the house.

So, you spent all your time looking at Louise Jefferson and completely ignored her husband?

[Origanalist]

I suspect the kids here underestimate the influence this show had. Back when there were only three networks, it was one of the most ubiquitous parts of American culture. And yes, it was pure propaganda. Anyone who wonders why conservatism in the U.S. is equated with racism when in many other parts of the world (Nazi Germany, anyone?) socialism uses racism to its ends far, far more often.

I suspect there's a reason you just never see All in the Family on reruns. It's not because it didn't have a great cast, nor because it wasn't funny. It did, and it was. It's because forty years later, the propaganda that is built into each episode is more plainly apparent than it was at the time.



It's amazing to me how blind I was to it back then. I didn't see it until years (decade at least) later.

[Anti Federalist]

I suspect the kids here underestimate the influence this show had. Back when there were only three networks, it was one of the most ubiquitous parts of American culture. And yes, it was pure propaganda. Anyone who wonders why conservatism in the U.S. is equated with racism when in many other parts of the world (Nazi Germany, anyone?) socialism uses racism to its ends far, far more often.

I suspect they do as well.


I suspect there's a reason you just never see All in the Family on reruns. It's not because it didn't have a great cast, nor because it wasn't funny. It did, and it was. It's because forty years later, the propaganda that is built into each episode is more plainly apparent than it was at the time.

Possibly.

I look at it from another angle: that it was too successful for it's own good.

If you "pitched" an AITF script to bunch of network suits today, they'd recoil in horror, the thing would never see the light of day.

The only place you can even come close to scripting similar jokes and gags today is in animation.

South Park, Simpsons and Family Guy, in the better moments all come to mind.


We could really, really stand to turn this on its head. A sitcom based on someone brainlessly spouting liberal propaganda while another, or others, remind them of simple truths like, 'You can't have freedom unless you can stand for your neighbors to be free as well,' could be just the ticket today.

We really need to get serious about founding a liberty television channel.

The success of shows like Jericho make this a possibility.

News and entertainment from a "liberty perspective".

[Anti Federalist]

It's amazing to me how blind I was to it back then. I didn't see it until years (decade at least) later.

Subtle as a rhinoceros charge, isn't it?

[Anti Federalist]

I was a big fan of the "Odd Couple" on TV as a kid.

I recall one of my favorite episodes that became a cautionary tale and warning, forty years later.

"Security Arms"

[acptulsa]

I was a big fan of the "Odd Couple" on TV as a kid.

I recall one of my favorite episodes that became a cautionary tale and warning, forty years later.

"Security Arms"

I remember it well, yet hardly remember it at all. I can name the main characters, describe the theme, tell you who played the main characters, and describe the characters and the dynamic. But I couldn't call to mind the plot of a specific episode.

Usually, when a show has real quality but doesn't get rerun, there are some messages in them that don't fit the media narrative. I'd like to see someone run that oldie again.

All things considered, I'm actually shocked that The Rockford Files gets airtime. But I'm pleased.

[Pericles]

Part of my plan for bringing up my future children is to expose them to the same shows I wathched growing up, thanks to DVD collections. I can only hope that helps innoculate them from the ill effects of modern society.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I was a big fan of the "Odd Couple" on TV as a kid.

I recall one of my favorite episodes that became a cautionary tale and warning, forty years later.

"Security Arms"

one of the actors (the slob) died today, or at least very recently. The neat nick died some time ago.

was never a big fan, but remember seeing a few episodes as re-runs. It' seemed as mindless as Seinfeld.

-t

[acptulsa]

Jack Klugman did all right, considering how long he had cancer. But he did indeed pass today. Tony Randall was a fellow Tulsan.

Turns out not everyone is afraid to show the reruns. A network called MeTV will begin running them in about a week. It'll be nice to get reacquainted.

[fisharmor]

Part of my plan for bringing up my future children is to expose them to the same shows I wathched growing up, thanks to DVD collections. I can only hope that helps innoculate them from the ill effects of modern society.

Did you know that the DVD collection of Sesame Street plays a warning that it's not meant for today's preschoolers?
Classic Sesame Street is available on Netflix now - but not in the kids' section. The kids' section Sesame Street episodes are all the modern ones which prominently feature the Red Retard whose voice likes to fuck boys.

Makes you wonder... if that's what IS intended for today's preschoolers, how fucked up did the stuff WE watched have to be?

I bring up Sesame Street because I'm convinced the reason why it's actively being suppressed as kids' programming today is because it was too effective. It's possible that they realized that they helped raise an entire generation of children who had no appreciable race issues and decided that they were derailing their political gravy train.

Either that, or it's the fact that there are kids with Down Syndrome on the old shows. 'Cause, you know, THAT sure as hell doesn't fit the narrative of today... the responsible thing these days is to chop them up in utero, and shun anyone who gives birth to one....

[acptulsa]

Makes you wonder... if that's what IS intended for today's preschoolers, how fucked up did the stuff WE watched have to be?

But was it too fucked up? Or not fucked up enough? Remember, back in the 'seventies they used to teach kids the preamble to the Constitution. Boy is that off limits today!

By the way, on an earlier subject, there was an All in the Family spinoff that did to liberals what the original did to conservatives. It was called Maude. Damned shame it wasn't funny.

Archie may have been a racist, loudmouth pig, but when push came to shove he always proved himself a good man at heart. Maude the Compassionate Liberal was just an unredeemable bitch. He was a far more loveable character than she was.