9/11 "BuildingWhat?" makes it to mainstream- Geraldo At Large on FOX News

[knarfxii]

YouTube - 9/11 "BuildingWhat?" makes it to mainstream- Geraldo At Large on FOX News (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfOVKPtT8ZY)

[cswake]

Just look down 10 threads:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=268764

[vita3]

Napolitano should have these guys on. & make sure to discuss the legitimacy of $4+ Billion, building owner Larry Silverstein got in Insurance payouts.

[knarfxii]

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[silverhandorder]

To be honest the truthers came off bad. The father was asked if investigation would satisfy him and he basically said no matter what the investigation says his mind is made up.

[dannno]

To be honest the truthers came off bad. The father was asked if investigation would satisfy him and he basically said no matter what the investigation says his mind is made up.

No, the interview was excellent, people need to have a more open mind about this stuff and that interview helped pull it off. Why should they trust an investigation that could be co-opted?

[silverhandorder]

Well why are they asking for one then? It seems kinda silly to me to ask for something that no matter what the outcome is you will still claim the same thing. Now granted perhaps that is not what he meant and if the investigation is satisfactory he would agree with the outcome or it may very well hold up his point of view. But his language did not indicate any of that.

[Petar]

To be honest the truthers came off bad. The father was asked if investigation would satisfy him and he basically said no matter what the investigation says his mind is made up.

You missed his point completely.

He says that he wants an investigation, but that he feels that would only be a first step.

You really don't seem very intelligent if you honestly cannot tell why.

[silverhandorder]

You missed his point completely.

He says that he wants an investigation, but that he feels that would only be a first step.

You really don't seem very intelligent if you honestly cannot tell why.

"investigation will not be sufficient enough" :rolleyes:

edit: Besides obviously an investigation is the first step. Persecution would naturally follow if there was any wrong doing.

What in your would would be the second step?

[Feeding the Abscess]

Investigation of WTC7 is the first step.

Which would lead to another investigation of WTC 1&2.

That's the progression.

[anaconda]

Ron Paul 2012!

[silverhandorder]

What happens if WTC7 investigation shows no wrong doing?

Btw I kinda always assumed if there is an investigation it would be of everything that happened that day so all WTC towers would be under scrutiny.

[pcosmar]

What happens if WTC7 investigation shows no wrong doing?
I think the plan is for a real investigation. Not just another cover-up.

Btw I kinda always assumed if there is an investigation it would be of everything that happened that day so all WTC towers would be under scrutiny.

Gotta start someplace. That is a good place to start.

:cool:

[Brett85]

To be honest the truthers came off bad. The father was asked if investigation would satisfy him and he basically said no matter what the investigation says his mind is made up.

When don't "truthers" come off bad? 9-11 conspiracy nuts hurt the liberty movement more than anything else ever could.

[knarfxii]

Ron Paul 2012

[Anti Federalist]

When don't "truthers" come off bad? 9-11 conspiracy nuts hurt the liberty movement more than anything else ever could.

Did you flag this thread as well?

Must have been allowed to stay since it didn't have "truth" in the thread title.

ETA - Both Ron and Rand are due to appear on the Alex Jones show this week.

Lollers...:D

[dannno]

Did you flag this thread as well?

Must have been allowed to stay since it didn't have "truth" in the thread title.

ETA - Both Ron and Rand are due to appear on the Alex Jones show this week.

Lollers...:D

wooot!!

Traditional Conservative is going to be really surprised one day and regret many of their actions and words towards others.

[Brett85]

ETA - Both Ron and Rand are due to appear on the Alex Jones show this week.

That's extremely stupid on their part. If Rand ever decides to run for President in the future, that association is really going to hurt him.

[dannno]

That's extremely stupid on their part. If Rand ever decides to run for President in the future, that association is really going to hurt him.

Are you under the impression that this is his first time appearing on Alex Jones :confused:


AJ has been integral in getting Rand to where he is today, through the building of his father's Presidential run and the liberty movement.

[Brett85]

Are you under the impression that this is his first time appearing on Alex Jones :confused:

No, but this will be the first time he's been on Jones' show since he's been a Senator. Now that Rand is actually a Senator he shouldn't be going on a talk show where the host believes that bankers are trying to kill 80% of the world's population.

[Anti Federalist]

No, but this will be the first time he's been on Jones' show since he's been a Senator. Now that Rand is actually a Senator he shouldn't be going on a talk show where the host believes that bankers are trying to kill 80% of the world's population.

The world's elite "ruling class", which include many bankers, have repeatedly stated that the world's population is unsustainable and must be culled drastically.

Some say by half, some say by 80 percent, some say as much as 95 percent.

The quotes are legion.

I'm not in a position to get them right now, maybe somebody will post a few.

[EvilEngineer]

No, but this will be the first time he's been on Jones' show since he's been a Senator. Now that Rand is actually a Senator he shouldn't be going on a talk show where the host believes that bankers are trying to kill 80% of the world's population.

I say go on more... Alex needs more credibility. Having senators drop in gives more credence to his reports which out stripes mainstream news for it's investigative quality. Granted... Alex does go overboard all the time with accusations and opinions, but no more so than Fox.

[dannno]

No, but this will be the first time he's been on Jones' show since he's been a Senator. Now that Rand is actually a Senator he shouldn't be going on a talk show where the host believes that bankers are trying to kill 80% of the world's population.

Should Rand go on shows where the host believes the govt. should be able to steal trillions of dollars from the American public to fight offensive wars?

Should Rand go on shows where the host believes CO2 is a toxic element and everybody in the world should be taxed for emitting it?

Those ideas are much worse for humanity than any real or perceived belief of what the bankers are actually planning to do to us beyond raping the majority of our country's wealth, but if Rand didn't appear on those shows either then it would really limit the amount of exposure he could give himself.

[Inkblots]

That's extremely stupid on their part. If Rand ever decides to run for President in the future, that association is really going to hurt him.

I agree, to some extent. I could understand Ron going on Alex Jone's show back in 2007/08 when most other media outlets were ignoring him, but now that he and Rand are regular guests on the major news networks, it's no longer necessary for him or Rand need to associate themselves with conspiracy-mongers.

Of course, part of it is no doubt out of gratitude, for giving him and his ideas exposure when no one else would. It's also likely that the Pauls like Jones personally and don't want to hurt his feelings by ignoring him.

And furthermore, no one should be able to suggest that by appearing on someone's program to be interviewed, you're endorsing their whole worldview and agenda. After all, when Ron or Rand goes on Rachel Maddow's show, no one assumes they're signing on to the progressive agenda; why should talking with Alex Jones be any different? But the unfortunate truth is, for better or for worse socialists like Maddow and O'Donnell are seen as acceptable in a way that Jones is not, and so Ron and Rand's opponents will seek to use the association against them. And a lot of people will have a knee-jerk reaction, and not follow the reasoning above, even though it's perfectly correct. So, in that light, I really wish they wouldn't go on his show. Aw, well.

[ExPatPaki]

Wouldn't questioning the official version of 9/11 be construed as anti-Semitic because 9/11 was good for Israel, according to Netanyahoo?

[lynnf]

That's extremely stupid on their part. If Rand ever decides to run for President in the future, that association is really going to hurt him.


bah, humbug! he has already been on there and it didn't keep him from being elected to the Senate!

(btw, Geraldo, you did a bang up job on this, thank you, thank you, thank you)

lynn

[vita3]

Why didn't any of my US history teachers, bring up the Lavon Affair?

[lynnf]

Why didn't any of my US history teachers, bring up the Lavon Affair?


uh, could that be because that's Israeli history and not US history?

lynn

[sofia]

uh, could that be because that's Israeli history and not US history?

lynn

It was US installations which were bombed, so it's also US history..

more pertinent though was the deliberate MURDER of 37 US sailors aboard the USS Liberty in 1967

[Lord Xar]

I'd be curious who owned building 7.

I remember seeing a documentary about a "contracting company" coming in and working on the supports to the trade centers. Coincidently, they are no longer in business and no information can be found out about this business. It was suggested, in the film, that they could have perhaps laid down some explosives. Does that ring a bell with anyone?

[dannno]

I'd be curious who owned building 7.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein (the guy who said "pull it" in the video in the OP)



In 1980, Larry Silverstein won a bid to lease and develop the last undeveloped parcel from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to build the 47-story 7 World Trade Center.


Silverstein was interested in acquiring the entire World Trade Center complex, and put in a bid when the Port Authority put it up for lease in 2000. Silverstein won the bid when a deal between the initial winner and the Port Authority fell through, and he signed the lease on July 24, 2001, only weeks before the towers were destroyed in the September 11 attacks.


In January 2001, Silverstein, via Silverstein Properties and Westfield America, made a $3.2 billion bid for the lease to the World Trade Center. Silverstein was outbid by $50 million by Vornado Realty, with Boston Properties and Brookfield Properties also competing for the lease. However, Vornado withdrew and Silverstein's bid for the lease to the World Trade Center was accepted on July 24, 2001.[14] This was the first time in the building's 31-year history that the complex had changed management.

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.[15] The terms of the lease gave Silverstein, as leaseholder, the right and the obligation to rebuild the structures if destroyed.[16]

Upon leasing the World Trade Center towers, along with 4 World Trade Center and 5 World Trade Center, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion per occurrence in property damage coverage.


A settlement was reached in 2007, with insurers agreeing to pay out $4.55 billion




I remember seeing a documentary about a "contracting company" coming in and working on the supports to the trade centers. Coincidently, they are no longer in business and no information can be found out about this business. It was suggested, in the film, that they could have perhaps laid down some explosives. Does that ring a bell with anyone?

Well they did cut power to WTC2 on the weekend before the attack to do some "electrical upgrades", could have been finishing up the demolition work.

They had also had all of their elevators renovated recently, and the elevator shafts are where the main support columns were in WTC 1 and 2.


I recommend the following films which can all be found on google video:


Loose Change: Final Cut

Fabled Enemies

Loose Change: An American Coup


This one is by far the most entertaining:

Who Killed John O'Neill?

[dannno]

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[jmdrake]

When don't "truthers" come off bad? 9-11 conspiracy nuts hurt the liberty movement more than anything else ever could.

Yes. The liberty movement was doing so much better when Ron ran the first time as a libertarian and got 0.0000000001% of the vote. :rolleyes: Besides, these two didn't even mention Ron. I thought you'd be happy about that.