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FrankRep
11-12-2010, 08:15 AM
The 17th Amendment establishes direct, popular election of U.S. Senators, superseding Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 1 and 2 which empowered state legislatures to elect senators.


Kentucky Senate president wants 17th Amendment repealed (http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Ky-Senate-president-wants-17th-Amendment-repealed-107231833.html)


WPSD Local 6
Nov 11, 2010



Kentucky Senate President David Williams says state legislators - not voters - should choose member of the U.S. Senate.

Declaring himself "a tea partyer," Williams on Wednesday called for repeal of the 17th amendment, which provides for popular election of U.S. senators.

The Lexington Herald-Leader reports Williams made the statements while speaking to about 50 University of Kentucky law students.
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Repeal the 17th! - Restore the Constitution!


Tea Party Wants to Dump 17th Amendment? (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/constitution/3689-tea-party-wants-to-dump-17th-amendment)

There is a sizable bloc of Tea Party supporters calling for repeal of the 17th Amendment to the United States Constitution. The 17th Amendment establishes direct, popular election of U.S. Senators, superseding Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 1 and 2 which empowered state legislatures to elect senators. by Joe Wolverton II

Should We Repeal the 17th Amendment? (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/3229-should-we-repeal-the-17th-amendment)

Representative Louie Golmert of Texas has recently proposed that United States senators be elected as they once were, by the legislatures of the states. This would require a repeal of the 17th Amendment, which requires direct election of senators by the people. by Bruce Walker

Repeal Direct Election of Senators? (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/constitution/5051-repeal-direct-election-of-senators)

Mike Lee, the Republican nominee for the Senate in the Utah election this year, supports repealing the 17th Amendment. “People would be better off if senators, when they deliver their messages to Washington, remember the sovereignty of the state,” Lee told reporters recently. by Bruce Walker



Judge Napolitano: Repeal the "Progressive" 17th Amendment For Better Local Representation

YouTube - Judge Napolitano: Repeal the "Progressive" 17th Amendment For Better Local Representation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUctrLsuFM)

MRoCkEd
11-12-2010, 08:21 AM
I'm surprised he would say that. I guess he's trying to gain favor with the tea parties to avoid getting Rand Paul'd by Phil Moffett.

Whoever wins the primary, I'm sure Steve Beshear will use the talking point that he "wants to take away your right to vote for US Senator."

FrankRep
11-12-2010, 08:29 AM
I'm surprised he would say that. I guess he's trying to gain favor with the tea parties to avoid getting Rand Paul'd by Phil Moffett.

David Williams supports Rand Paul!

Rand Paul 2010: (http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/10/paul-makes-campaign-stop-in-bell-co/)


Kentucky Senate President David Williams, who recently announced his bid for governor, was in Pineville to support Dr. Paul.


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Whoever wins the primary, I'm sure Steve Beshear will use the talking point that he "wants to take away your right to vote for US Senator."


Robert Steurer, a spokesman for McConnell, told the newspaper giving the choice of senators to legislatures would be "a huge step backward" for democracy.


News Flash Robert Steurer -- American is a REPUBLIC, not a Democracy!

itshappening
11-12-2010, 08:32 AM
Williams has voted for tax increases hasn't he?

MRoCkEd
11-12-2010, 08:34 AM
David Williams supports Rand Paul!

Of course. What Republican candidate in Kentucky wouldn't?

Williams has voted for tax increases hasn't he?
Yep.

Maybe he's seeing the light. I think he's just being an opportunist, though.

Back when Williams was expected to run for US Senate:

“We will need a conservative to run against that liberal David Williams,” Dr. Paul, 46, a Bowling Green opthamologist, said.

“Bunning has been treated unfairly,” he said. “It’s been his finest hour within the last year or so with his votes on the bailouts.”

“David Williams has given up the ghost on the budget. He didn’t even put up a fight on raising taxes.”

yatez112
11-12-2010, 08:36 AM
No way in hell I'm voting for David Williams. LOL. As MRocked has pointed out, Dr. Paul was against Williams before and during the primary. Williams and local media try and tout Williams' filling in for Paul at a few events as an endorsement--I find that hard to believe since I'm sure the RPKY had something to do with helping out at multiple events. Even if that were the case, no way in hell. :)

I emailed in to KY Tonight a few months ago and mentioned we needed new vision and fresh ideas, etc. Holly Harris of the RPKY mentioned--wait for it--David Williams as an example with independent thinking and fresh ideas, etc. Is she out of her mind?!

FrankRep
11-12-2010, 08:39 AM
No way in hell I'm voting for David Williams. LOL.
I know little about Kentucky. What's the dirt David Williams?

Theocrat
11-12-2010, 08:44 AM
What's sad is that Mitch McConnell said David Williams' comment is "a huge step backward for democracy," while Jim Bunning said letting people vote for senators is "the proper way to do it." Those two are senators! They should know better.

cswake
11-12-2010, 08:59 AM
Those two are senators! They should know better.

IMHO, that's the problem, they do. And they both know their State legislators would have been having serious conversations with them during their stays in Washington. (Especially since Kentucky had a democratic State legislature)

TheDriver
11-12-2010, 09:21 AM
David Williams raised "sin taxes" - taxes on alcohol and tobacco.


YouTube - David Williams Calls For Abolition Of 17th Amendment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzy2On6nuJ4)

BamaFanNKy
11-12-2010, 09:33 AM
Neither GOP candidate for governor worked for Dr. Paul in the primary. In fact Moffett was asked to help Dr. Paul in the primary and did minimal at best. He never donated until he had a chance to meet Sarah Palin. That was the only reason he donated.

For me, neither are looking strong. Williams will win because maybe 4 in 10 people who vote know Moffett and he lacks the financial backing. Meanwhile, Williams has basketball legend and current Ag Commish Richie Farmer running with him. Neither are in our camp.

Issues I care about and their stances:
Casino Gambling (I support) Williams: Oppose Moffett: Oppose
Hemp Farming (I support) Williams: Oppose Moffett: Support
Medical Marijuana (I support) Williams: Oppose Moffett: Oppose
Rec. Marijuana (I support) Williams: Oppose Moffett: Oppose
Gay Marriage (I support) Williams: Oppose Moffett: Oppose
Charter Schools (I support) Williams: Support Moffett: Support
Raising Speed limit (I support) Williams: Oppose Moffett: Oppose

So, basically on social issues they are same old same old. It's basically a basis on tax and spend. In Kentucky we have a balanced budget amendment so we have not incurred a large debt (although the bonds are an issue I don't like).

Also, it's easy for Moffett because he's running on "Vote for me, David Williams is scary" which reminds YouTube - Jack Conway's Campaign Of Fear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbHzvmO3T1I). Adams spends more time talking about his opponent than Moffett. Williams on the other hand has had a pretty decent record in Frankfort. He led the charge a few years ago to cut the income, property, and corporate licenses tax. And he has been a fighter for charter schools. In fact, in the 2010 session, the Republicans in the Senate passed a charter school bill only to watch it die in the State House.

I am not advocating Williams but, he's not the boogie man and Moffett is not the savior. Both are pretty so-so candidates.

GunnyFreedom
11-12-2010, 09:36 AM
I'm surprised he would say that. I guess he's trying to gain favor with the tea parties to avoid getting Rand Paul'd by Phil Moffett.

Whoever wins the primary, I'm sure Steve Beshear will use the talking point that he "wants to take away your right to vote for US Senator."

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LMAO -- where have I heard THAT one before........ hahahaha :D