Sen Corker REFUSES my offering of pocket Constitution; calling it "offensive"

[Matt Collins]

So Senator Corker (known as "Bailout Bob" in TN) held a townhall meeting tonight in Nashville about the nation's debt crisis.

I was the #3 perosn in line and I said "Senator Corker, it's highly hypocritical of you to vote for more debt one year, and then rail against the debt the next year. But regardless, would you support a bill that would allow an unrestricted audit all of the gold held by the federal government and the federal reserve... don't you think the people have a right to know how much gold the government is holding?"

He fumbled a bit, obviously not expecting this question... He then came back with something to the effect of 'well I'll take a look and get back with you in writing'.

I then said "well sir, I have seen your voting record and it's obvious you haven't read the Constitution and I would like to present you with a copy now".

I then walked to the front of the stage and tried to hand it to him.

He rambled on for a minute or two saying that "it was offensive" that I accused him of having not read the Constitution and of offering him a copy. He never took it out of my hands, so I simply laid it at his feet on the edge of the stage and walked away.

Then for the next half our he endured numerous questions from our people about the Federal Reserve :D

As soon as the people who recored it grab the audio and the video I will post it.


(on edit)
Here is the 1 minute audio clip:
http://tncampaignforliberty.org/misc/SenatorCorkerRefusesACopyOfTheConstitution.mp3
(I realize I meant to say "vice chair" instead of just "chair" - an honest mistake on my part)


Here is the FULL recording of the event:
(questions start about 28 minutes into it)
http://www.tncampaignforliberty.org/misc/SenatorCorkerTownHallMeeting-recording.mp3
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[BamaAla]

Win. I'm sure he was greatly offended to be called out on his bullshit! +rep good sir.

[jmhudak17]

Good job. Hopefully he'll be out of a job soon.

[TheHumblePhysicist]

GREAT JOB!!!!

It's time to drag these people from their snake holes. Spread the video around!

Wait... Actually don't! Don't release it until right before his re-election campaign! If you get it on FOX you could probably destroy his election chances! Hold on to it!

[Kotin]

Very proud of you, Matt!!


Great job.. :D

[JoshLowry]

lulz go matt!

[Mr.Magnanimous]

Sounds hilarious! What a chump, of course he's offended by the constitution

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

Awesome job Matt.. I can't wait for the video.

[MyLibertyStuff]

Well played sir...glad to hear you had backup too

[Matt Collins]

Here is the 1 minute audio clip:
http://tncampaignforliberty.org/misc/SenatorCorkerRefusesACopyOfTheConstitution.mp3



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[MyLibertyStuff]

Here is the 1 minute audio clip:
http://tncampaignforliberty.org/misc/SenatorCorkerRefusesACopyOfTheConstitution.mp3



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Better answer than I expected, but you still owned him

[Esor]

Wow, he sounds like an idiot. He did have a decent response though.

[PeacePlan]

Great job...

[Matt Collins]

Here is the FULL recording of the event:
(questions start about 28 minutes into it)
http://www.tncampaignforliberty.org/misc/SenatorCorkerTownHallMeeting-recording.mp3 (http://www.tncampaignforliberty.org/misc/SenatorCorkerTownHallMeeting-recording.mp3)

[Matt Collins]

Better answer than I expected, but you still owned him

Wow, he sounds like an idiot. He did have a decent response though.

Yeah, fundamentals of public speaking 101: SPIN!

You take something said bad about you, and then you turn around and spin it into something positive to get the room back on your side. :rolleyes:


Sadly many people bought into it. BUT, there were several questions at the end (not sure if it was before the recording cut off) about where in the Constitution authorized his vote for the TARP bailout, and where in the Constitution the Federal Reserve is authorized. He fumbled both of them, stammered around, said the courts do it, it's up to interpretation, etc. Fortunately most people in the room didn't care for that particular answer, nor did they buy it. :o

[tangent4ronpaul]

Sorry Collins - listened to the 1 min rebuf and he handed you your ass on a platter... EXCELLENT REBUFF! I heard nothing to back up your claims of laying down the constitution ... and it being refused ... got video?

Try pointed questions about content next time...

-t

[low preference guy]

I think Collins ended up sounding pretty rude. And after Corker rebuff that he has his own copy and read it recently, it didn't make sense to try to get him to take the Constitution.

[speciallyblend]

The Collins, reminds me of Kickass:) YouTube - kick ass fight scene 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuGnouE2wZg)

[nobody's_hero]

First it was a refusal to shake hands with congress critters, and now, you're handing out Constitutions?

Matt, when are you going to learn to show respect for our masters? :p

[rawraw04]

When he said he has read the constitution I would have replied then you are aware of treason?

[Matt Collins]

When he said he has read the constitution I would have replied then you are aware of treason?At that point I didn't have the microphone.


after Corker rebuff that he has his own copy and read it recently, it didn't make sense to try to get him to take the Constitution.I had already tried to hand it to him at that point.


I heard nothing to back up your claims of laying down the constitution ... and it being refused ... got video?Working on it.


I think Collins ended up sounding pretty rude. Good, it's about time someone started to show these people that we are unhappy with their hypocrisy. I think his voting record is offensive.

[Matt Collins]

Looks like we have generated a lot of press about this!!!


Former Nashville GOP official confronts Bob Corker over voting record:
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20101112/NEWS02/11120340/Former+Davidson+GOP+official+confronts+Bob+Corker+ over+voting+record


And:
http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2010/11/12/what-a-corker/

[TNforPaul45]

How dare you approach one of the gods and tell them they are wrong! Aghast!

Bailout Bastard, the people find you offensive, not the constution.

Well done The Collins

[cswake]

http://wpln.org/?p=21736

The lady here also did a good job. "STOP spending our money NOW"

He also had an interesting comment later, "You can always override a law". Thankfully he's on record for supporting the balanced budget amendment that will be presented in the next year.

[Matt Collins]

http://wpln.org/?p=21736 (http://wpln.org/?p=21736)Thanks for posting this, I had not seen it previously.

[speciallyblend]

matt you were not rude. they should be lucky i didn't show up with a pitchfork and tar and it is not for my roof!!

[Matt Collins]

matt you were not rude. Yeah I don't think so either. If I had yelled or cussed at him or called him some moniker then yeah, THAT would've been rude (even though it was well deserved) but inappropriate for the situation in my opinion.

[MsDoodahs]

Having backup is important. Everyone who attends a meeting and plans this kind of question should have supporters in the audience that can provide support for them.

Would phrasing the lead up to presenting him a copy of the Constitution have helped? Maybe something along the lines of...."Based on a review of your voting record, you voted for _____ and ______ and ______ and _______ - and I have a copy of the Constitution here, and I would respectfully ask that you direct myself and the audience to the section of the Constitution that authorizes those things you voted for? I brought an additional copy of the Constitution for you to use as reference in your response, here it is."

Just a thought.....

[jmdrake]

Good press coverage. I think some people don't get the point of these so called "town hall meetings". Corker was hoping to waltz into town and be able to waltz back to DC and claim "My constituents agree with me on such and such." Instead the press shows that his positions are just as disliked here as is Obamacare.

[Deborah K]

I think Collins ended up sounding pretty rude. And after Corker rebuff that he has his own copy and read it recently, it didn't make sense to try to get him to take the Constitution.

The pot is screaming at the kettle. :rolleyes:


Matt, you rok! Even without your pony tail. :D

[johnrocks]

lol, I bet you could have fried an egg on his forehead after you showed him up like that:p

[Matt Collins]

I was a lot more polite to Senator Corker than the Founding Fathers were to the people who did a lot less to them than what the Senator has done to us.

[MsDoodahs]

I was a lot more polite to Senator Corker than the Founding Fathers were to the people who did a lot less to them than what the Senator has done to us.

:eek:

and true.

:eek: again.

[speciallyblend]

:eek:

and true.

:eek: again.

i wanna see the collins in kickass's superhero uniform:) that would be another classic avatar by the collins:)

[Jordan]

Now should a bill ever get put up to audit the gold, Corker is going to remember you.

[MsDoodahs]

Now should a bill ever get put up to audit the gold, Corker is going to remember you.

fondly?

;)

[lower case]

Wow, he sounds like an idiot. He did have a decent response though.

He responded by saying he supports passing a law requiring senators point to where their bills are authorized by the constitution. When has Bob Corker ever done this? What does he need a law for???

[Matt Collins]

Now should a bill ever get put up to audit the gold, Corker is going to remember you.Good, that's the idea!

[Dripping Rain]

So Senator Corker (known as "Bailout Bob" in TN) held a townhall meeting tonight in Nashville about the nation's debt crisis.

I was the #3 perosn in line and I said "Senator Corker, it's highly hypocritical of you to vote for more debt one year, and then rail against the debt the next year. But regardless, would you support a bill that would allow an unrestricted audit all of the gold held by the federal government and the federal reserve... don't you think the people have a right to know how much gold the government is holding?"

He fumbled a bit, obviously not expecting this question... He then came back with something to the effect of 'well I'll take a look and get back with you in writing'.

I then said "well sir, I have seen your voting record and it's obvious you haven't read the Constitution and I would like to present you with a copy now".

I then walked to the front of the stage and tried to hand it to him.

He rambled on for a minute or two saying that "it was offensive" that I accused him of having not read the Constitution and of offering him a copy. He never took it out of my hands, so I simply laid it at his feet on the edge of the stage and walked away.

Then for the next half our he endured numerous questions from our people about the Federal Reserve :D

As soon as the people who recored it grab the audio and the video I will post it.


(on edit)
Here is the 1 minute audio clip:
http://tncampaignforliberty.org/misc/SenatorCorkerRefusesACopyOfTheConstitution.mp3
(I realize I meant to say "vice chair" instead of just "chair" - an honest mistake on my part)


Here is the FULL recording of the event:
(questions start about 28 minutes into it)
http://www.tncampaignforliberty.org/misc/SenatorCorkerTownHallMeeting-recording.mp3
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wow The Collins is really awesome
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L5EFG-vZEHo/SvsdyRK8_mI/AAAAAAAABtk/G3XQn6yBTHk/s200/Matt+Collins.bmp

+rep

[Dripping Rain]

Low Interest rates makes assets rise in Value



BAHAHAHAHAHA
what a clueless idiot

[Dripping Rain]

i give away all my salary for charity
lol

[HOLLYWOOD]

VERY KEWL! We need lot's more of this on all the political hacks. :D



Looks like we have generated a lot of press about this!!!



Former Nashville GOP official confronts Bob Corker over voting record:
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20101112/NEWS02/11120340/Former+Davidson+GOP+official+confronts+Bob+Corker+ over+voting+record (http://www.tennessean.com/article/20101112/NEWS02/11120340/Former+Davidson+GOP+official+confronts+Bob+Corker+ over+voting+record)


And:
http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2010/11/12/what-a-corker/ (http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2010/11/12/what-a-corker/)

[Sola_Fide]

Goooooooo Collinz

[Humanae Libertas]

I don't think you were rude, but you did jump the gun and just blurt out "you never read the constitution", which I think why most people were booing.

[LibertyEagle]

Good job, Matt.

[heavenlyboy34]

folks why do we always fight each other

Lets have a cyber group Hug and sing the Kumbaya
:D
relax Homies

Yeah! That's what my "Think Happy Thoughts" thread was for. You would like it. :)

[speciallyblend]

YouTube - All You Need Is Love - Across The Universe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5DYqs8Cjgo)

[Matt Collins]

wow The Collins is really awesome


+repaww shucks....



http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x93/sonicspikesalbum/TheCollins2.jpg

[jackdog]

GREAT JOB!!!!

It's time to drag these people from their snake holes. Spread the video around!

Wait... Actually don't! Don't release it until right before his re-election campaign! If you get it on FOX you could probably destroy his election chances! Hold on to it!

Oh that would be fantastic. Wish I would have been there for this

[Imaginos]

Wow, good job!
Cheers!

[legion]

Yeah, Corker gives away all his income to charity...

...and holds 90% of his assets in a barely arms length nominee corporation named "Luken Holdings."

In June 2009, GE Captial called Luken's loans. This means the company was in default. Just about the same time Corker started making noise about the Federal Reserve remaining independent.

However, Luken Holdings was mysteriously able to refinance 28 million dollars in loans through Wells Fargo this year.

Would you loan 28 million dollars to a bankrupt company?

I would if it meant I got to keep a Senator's balls in a vice grip.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/mar/27/fresh-credit-flows-to-luken/

[osan]

Nicely done. Kudos.

[Thrashertm]

I like what the Indian-sounding guy said (3rd speaker). He basically said that Bernanke by printing $1.7 trillion last year and $600 billion this year, his life savings for the past 30 years had been devalued by 15-20%. The effect of that was stealing 5 years of his life. Very powerful.

[osan]

I think Collins ended up sounding pretty rude.

These guys are doing it to us in every hole we've got, as well as a few they've managed to drill for their own perversity. We're probably fighting for our lives here so I am not sure that strict adherence to quiet courtesy is always a good idea.

Consider the typical ways in which these vermin answer questions they don't like - they go on and on, sometimes for minutes at a clip, sometimes rambling in a nearly incoherent fashion, then move on to the next question. IOW, they don't provide any meaningful answer - just a lot of two-stepping. How is that not rude? Just because the cockroach in question did not respond with "shut the fuck up you little cock sucker", it does not follow that his response was polite. Failing to answer, lying, and other methods of deception and evasion are ultimately rude for they broadcast the speaker's bald-faced contempt for those who make the queries. I would have to assess their behavior as far and away more rude than anyone who is fed up with this sort of treatment, therefore becoming rather direct in his approach to getting straight answers.

Gotta keep your positions straight on such issues. Be circumspect and look at what is really going on from the standpoint of fundamental interactions. This is so important because without such eyes one cannot help but get caught up in the irrelevant and superficial trappings of an event. Don't get sucked in like that. Have better eyes than that. This goes for us all.

Matt did well. Trust me on this one.

[free1]

As usual, they say one thing and do another.

You think by now the people would catch on.

And the first thing on his mind should be "where the hell is OUR money?"

(edit)

Wow! Got through that audio file and the questions are amazing coming from just normal people. They are really asking the hard questions and seem educated on the issues.

I bet he wasn't expecting that at all. Talk about a wake up call for him!

These guys are either going to run for the hills or they will have to start representing we the People and what we truly want.



Here is the FULL recording of the event:
(questions start about 28 minutes into it)
http://www.tncampaignforliberty.org/misc/SenatorCorkerTownHallMeeting-recording.mp3
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[Anti Federalist]

These guys are doing it to us in every hole we've got, as well as a few they've managed to drill for their own perversity. We're probably fighting for our lives here so I am not sure that strict adherence to quiet courtesy is always a good idea.

Consider the typical ways in which these vermin answer questions they don't like - they go on and on, sometimes for minutes at a clip, sometimes rambling in a nearly incoherent fashion, then move on to the next question. IOW, they don't provide any meaningful answer - just a lot of two-stepping. How is that not rude? Just because the cockroach in question did not respond with "shut the fuck up you little cock sucker", it does not follow that his response was polite. Failing to answer, lying, and other methods of deception and evasion are ultimately rude for they broadcast the speaker's bald-faced contempt for those who make the queries. I would have to assess their behavior as far and away more rude than anyone who is fed up with this sort of treatment and therefore becoming rather direct in his approach to getting straight answers.

Gotta keep your positions straight on such issues. Be circumspect and look at what is really going on from the standpoint of fundamental interactions. This is so important because without such eyes one cannot help but get caught up in the irrelevant and superficial trappings of an event. Don't get sucked in like that. Have better eyes than that. This goes for us all.

Matt did well. Trust me on this one.

+rep.

Nicely done.

I'll throw in a Four Collins as well

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[pcosmar]

When he said he has read the constitution I would have replied then you are aware of treason?

Apparently reading comprehension is not his strong suit.

[messana]

Good work. We need more people asking the hard questions so when liberty candidates run against them, we have some good stuff to work with.

[Thomas]

good job! who else will do this?

[Matt Collins]

YouTube - 11.11.2010 Senator Corker Questioned About the Fed by CFL/YAL (Part 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=titPPwxjxU0)
YouTube - 11.11.2010 Senator Corker Questioned About the Fed by CFL/YAL (Part 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiquOFxDpn0)

[JK/SEA]

hmmmm...sounded like 'maybe' 10 people bleated.

[evilfunnystuff]

YouTube - South Park - Nice.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLy5xIjA6Z8)

[TNforPaul45]

aww shucks....



http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x93/sonicspikesalbum/TheCollins2.jpg



(Hums the theme from "The Godfather")

[free1]

This guy is probably going to go back to Washington and look back at the town hall and think it was just a nightmare - meaning a dream which he can ignore.

I suggest many follow up calls to his office while he's back in Washington to remind him it wasn't just a bad dream, but his worst nightmare come true.

And don't forget the $174,000 salary for congress members, which should remind them they work for us.

[Umbro2914]

Not for nothing, but Matt, why introduce yourself as Campaign for Liberty former blah blah blah??? Do you seek authority? legitimacy?
In this sense you are no different that Madame "Call me Senator" Boxer.

[Dreamofunity]

Matt sounds different than I would have expected.

[Matt Collins]

Not for nothing, but Matt, why introduce yourself as Campaign for Liberty former blah blah blah??? One article in the largest newspaper in TN was entitled: "Former Nashville Republican official confronts Bob Corker over voting record."

You can see it here:
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20101112/NEWS02/11120340/Former-Davidson-GOP-official-confronts-Bob-Corker-over-voting-record


I'd say that sends a pretty strong message!:D


But I mentioned The CFL because the GOP establishment in TN is scared to death of the CFL. I was just sending a message to them that we are alive and well and not going away anytime soon. :cool:

[Matt Collins]

Matt did well. Trust me on this one.LPG hates me and everything I do for some reason. He criticizes me at every opportunity regardless of what I say or do. :rolleyes: Don't waste your time responding to him.

[Matt Collins]

I like what the Indian-sounding guy said (3rd speaker). He basically said that Bernanke by printing $1.7 trillion last year and $600 billion this year, his life savings for the past 30 years had been devalued by 15-20%. The effect of that was stealing 5 years of his life. Very powerful.
Yep the guy was pretty smart. Unfortunately most people in the room, including myself and the Senator, had a hard time understanding what he said because his point was excellent. :(

[lx43]

Corker treats the constitution like toliet paper. He uses it when he needs, but throws the rest away at his convenience.

Good job Matt!

[Matt Collins]

Corker treats the constitution like toliet paper. He uses it when he needs, but throws the rest away at his convenience.



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2118/1926335519_daed1586eb_m.jpg

[anaconda]

"Sir, if you would briefly recite the intent of the 5th and 9th amendments then perhaps we might all have confidence in your knowledge of the Constitution...' or something like that might have got him highly defensive.

[freshjiva]

That's the first time I heard your voice, Matt. Must say, you're quite fluent.
Seriously, ever think about running for office yourself? You'd do great in political debates :D

I can see how some people might think your comments were rude and unprofessional, but given that you clearly introduced yourself as a GOP grassroots leader, your criticism is coming from "within the party" rather than, say, if a liberal were attacking Corker. It's generally received differently.

Great job!

[Matt Collins]

That's the first time I heard your voice, Matt. Must say, you're quite fluent.
Seriously, ever think about running for office yourself? You'd do great in political debates :Dha ha ha... I dunno about all that. Maybe one day :p




I can see how some people might think your comments were rude and unprofessional, but given that you clearly introduced yourself as a GOP grassroots leader, your criticism is coming from "within the party" rather than, say, if a liberal were attacking Corker. It's generally received differently.That's the idea! :cool:

[JeremyDahl]

Why are we worried about being confrontational?

It is about pressure, not access...


I hope Corker gets his feelings hurt and feels insulted.

PATRIOT ACT BAILOUT CASH for CLUNKER passing, good 'ol boy, power hungry hack.
I can't wait to fire him anyways.

[WorldonaString]

Left a comment over there for ya. Borrowed a bit of rawraws comment about corker understanding treason :)

[Matt Collins]

Looks like he is getting the message... But I need some help at the comments on this link: http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2010/11/16/the-phillips-curve/

[Matt Collins]

http://tncampaignforliberty.org/misc/Corker-GoldAudit-1.jpg
http://tncampaignforliberty.org/misc/Corker-GoldAudit-2.jpg




He included this report:
Audit of US Mint Deep Storage Gold And Silver Reserves
http://www.treasury.gov/about/organizational-structure/ig/Documents/oig11004.pdf




And a print-off of this page:
Status Report of U.S. Treasury-Owned Gold
http://fms.treas.gov/gold/current.html

[Ekrub]

haha necessary and proper.

[Brett85]

So what's the counter argument to his argument about the Constitutionality of the Federal Reserve?

[AGRP]

Wasn't rude at all. If anyone was rude, it was Sen Corker.

Do some need to be reminded who is in charge?

It would be well within reason for a manager to request an employee to look over the company handbook if they got out of line.