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hazek
11-09-2010, 02:24 PM
I'm asking my self the question of how one should go about educating 350mil people on economics and liberty so that we could reverse this horrible trend the country is on atm.. And the more I think about various media outlets and other methods of communication I can't really think of how it would be possible to reach everyone. Is it even possible?

And then I remembered Ron's answer from the debates on foreign policy which was that we can achieve much more through peace and setting a good example then we can through aggressive wars. And then it hit me!

Is it possible that the only way we can ever go back to the rule of law is to just set an example for everyone else? Now I know this is almost impossible but just imagine if every Ron Paul supporter would move to a small fantasy country and overrun it with our ideology, vote in our representatives and slowly take over the leadership, adopt the constitution and live by it. Once that country becomes super prosperous like the States used to be, people will want to learn how our prosperity was achieved and they will want to emulate us.

Austrian Econ Disciple
11-09-2010, 02:34 PM
Freestateproject.com
Freekeene.com
Freegrafton.com

Get involved. Get a movin'. We could easily dominate NH if we got all the Paulers there. Look at all the good shit that is going on all ready with only ~1500 early movers! The Free State Project is the best strategic arm of the libertarian movement, one in which success is almost guaranteed if we just become the majority voice in the area.

Geographical organization and undying devotion to principles and philosopy is key.

Fredom101
11-09-2010, 03:13 PM
Freestateproject.com
Freekeene.com
Freegrafton.com

Get involved. Get a movin'. We could easily dominate NH if we got all the Paulers there. Look at all the good shit that is going on all ready with only ~1500 early movers! The Free State Project is the best strategic arm of the libertarian movement, one in which success is almost guaranteed if we just become the majority voice in the area.

Geographical organization and undying devotion to principles and philosopy is key.

I don't like New Hampshire. It's too stuck in tradition for me. I like Calyfornia, not because of it's socialist government but because of the tradition of entrepreneuralism that exists there. I also like new architecture. Take a look at downtown San Diego. Most of it is brand spankin new buildings, many of which are works of art, but modern as opposed to old and traditional like most of NH.

I don't think NH is the way to go no matter how many RPers and ancaps move there.

Southron
11-09-2010, 03:16 PM
Indoctrinate your children. If you don't, someone else will.

FrankRep
11-09-2010, 03:19 PM
Freestateproject.com (http://Freestateproject.com/)
Freekeene.com (http://Freekeene.com)
Freegrafton.com (http://Freegrafton.com)

Get involved. Get a movin'.

Let the Free State Project (New Hampshire) prove a Libertarian Society can work.

KCIndy
11-09-2010, 05:10 PM
I don't like New Hampshire. It's too stuck in tradition for me. I like Calyfornia, not because of it's socialist government but because of the tradition of entrepreneuralism that exists there. I also like new architecture. Take a look at downtown San Diego. Most of it is brand spankin new buildings, many of which are works of art, but modern as opposed to old and traditional like most of NH.

I don't think NH is the way to go no matter how many RPers and ancaps move there.


Trouble is, if the FSP is having difficulty taking over a small state like New Hampshire, there's not a chance in hell of taking over a state like California. What's California's population right now, about 40 million?

BuddyRey
11-09-2010, 06:14 PM
I'm asking my self the question of how one should go about educating 350mil people on economics and liberty so that we could reverse this horrible trend the country is on atm.. And the more I think about various media outlets and other methods of communication I can't really think of how it would be possible to reach everyone. Is it even possible?

I've got good news and bad news for you. First the bad news:

It probably isn't possible to reach 350 million people without a mainstream media machine at our disposal, and even if we could, the number of people who would even be interested enough in libertarian principles to research them further, become active, etc. would be far smaller (don't forget, half of all Americans can't even be arsed to vote on Election Day).

But now the good news:

It doesn't matter. As you probably know from examining the current state of affairs in U.S. politics today, and from looking back on the course of history, it never really is the "majority" of the populace that guides human events anyway. The Founding Fathers were a negligible minority when they started out too, but their ideas were so compelling to people that their efforts began snowballing. As Samuel Adams puts it (far more eloquently than I could), "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." :)

Live_Free_Or_Die
11-09-2010, 07:20 PM
Is it possible that the only way we can ever go back to the rule of law is to just set an example for everyone else?

It is the only way. If you want to go to the moon you don't build the space shuttle first. You build a bottle rocket and work your way up.