Rand's True Allies in the Senate?

[DeadheadForPaul]

In the other thread where someone posted a recent interview (http://www.wbko.com/home/headlines/Catching_Up_With_Senator-elect_Paul_106910468.html), Rand mentioned that he had already spoken with several other senators.

He also "plans to speak to members of the House".

Who do you expect to be Rand's biggest friends?

I think Rubio is all show and will reveal himself in time to not be a true supporter of liberty.

To me, Jim Demint and Mike Lee are the most obvious allies. Lee is far more libertarian/anti-federalist than I initially thought and expect him to be Rand's closet friend. Saw him on FreedomWatch and was really impressed

I'm honestly not sure about anyone else. It's a shame we probably didn't get Joe Miller in

[sailingaway]

In the other thread where someone posted a recent interview (http://www.wbko.com/home/headlines/Catching_Up_With_Senator-elect_Paul_106910468.html), Rand mentioned that he had already spoken with several other senators.

He also "plans to speak to members of the House".

Who do you expect to be Rand's biggest friends?

I think Rubio is all show and will reveal himself in time.

To me, Jim Demint and Mike Lee are the most obvious allies

I'm honestly not sure about anyone else. It's a shame we probably didn't get Joe Miller in

Tooney as much as De Mint, but not as much as Mike Lee. On specific issues, others.

[Brett85]

Coburn as well. He wrote in an article that he looked forward to working with Rand on defense cuts. He's the most non interventionalist Senator in the current Senate.

[MRoCkEd]

He could work with Senator Ron Wyden on cuts in military. Wyden signed on to the Paul/Frank/Jones plan.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-a-budget/107229-why-we-must-reduce-military-spending-reps-barney-frank-and-ron-paul

I know Rand said he wanted to work with Feingold, but obviously that's not possible anymore.. So hopefully Ron Johnson is halfway decent on spending.

[ronaldo23]

Ally for auditing the fed/pressuring Bernanke, but polar opposite for everything else, Bernie Sanders

[Agorism]

I really feel that he should work with the dems to ban water boarding as an early bipartisan effort.

[MaxPower]

In the other thread where someone posted a recent interview (http://www.wbko.com/home/headlines/Catching_Up_With_Senator-elect_Paul_106910468.html), Rand mentioned that he had already spoken with several other senators.

He also "plans to speak to members of the House".

Who do you expect to be Rand's biggest friends?

I think Rubio is all show and will reveal himself in time to not be a true supporter of liberty.

To me, Jim Demint and Mike Lee are the most obvious allies. Lee is far more libertarian/anti-federalist than I initially thought and expect him to be Rand's closet friend. Saw him on FreedomWatch and was really impressed

I'm honestly not sure about anyone else. It's a shame we probably didn't get Joe Miller in
I'd say Rubio has already long since revealed himself not to be a true friend of liberty. The guy says the Iraq War was justified, supports the PATRIOT Act, and generally appears to be a Bush Republican to a "T," right down to having been introduced for his victory speech by none other than Jeb Bush. He is clearly not pro-liberty on foreign policy or civil liberties, and I will go further and state that he is almost certainly a fiscal peacock who talks up a storm without anything to back it up, particularly since the aforementioned militarism is, in truth, diametrically opposed to fiscal conservatism, notwithstanding the bizarre efforts at marrying the two on the part of the schizophrenic GOP.

[JohnEngland]

I'd never heard much about Mike Lee before, but from the recent interviews, it sounds like he'll be a strong ally.

[Fozz]

The most reliable allies will be DeMint and Lee. Toomey is ok.

Rubio is a POS neocon who even seems to be abandoning DeMint.

[phesoge]

The most reliable allies will be DeMint and Lee. Toomey is ok.

Rubio is a POS neocon who even seems to be abandoning DeMint.

YES. I was suspect of Rubio from the get go, and his current trip to Israel all but confirms my belief he is going to be cut from the same cloth as most of the NEO CON Republicans. He also coudl work with the independant Bernie Sanders. Self avowed socialist doesn't have much in common with Rand, but he was for auditing the Fed, and is anti war. Two areas they could work on. I wouldnt exactly call him a close ally, but at least someone he might be able to work with.

[S.Shorland]

Rubio is the establishment's choice,I'm quite convinced.He won by such a large margin,which they trumpet. I'd like to know why twice,during election night,RP's lead was shown as 52 - 48 on MSNBC.Both times against the grain of the count.I'd love to know how statistically likely this was.Maybe BBV could tell.For a moment I thought they were setting up to steal the race but maybe it was innocent or maybe they wanted Rubio to have the widest margin and thus be the 'Tea Party's Choice'?

[Lost Myth]

Rubio is the establishment's choice,I'm quite convinced.He won by such a large margin,which they trumpet. I'd like to know why twice,during election night,RP's lead was shown as 52 - 48 on MSNBC.Both times against the grain of the count.I'd love to know how statistically likely this was.Maybe BBV could tell.For a moment I thought they were setting up to steal the race but maybe it was innocent or maybe they wanted Rubio to have the widest margin and thus be the 'Tea Party's Choice'?

That's because the lead WAS 52-48. This was when Louisville had a significantly higher % of precincts reporting than the rest of Kentucky. Louisville voted 56-44 for Conway.

[DeadheadForPaul]

That's because the lead WAS 52-48. This was when Louisville had a significantly higher % of precincts reporting than the rest of Kentucky. Louisville voted 56-44 for Conway.


This.

[down-under]

I am not sure where the notion of DeMint being a friend of liberty comes from. He is one of the most hawkish neocons on the GOP senate . More so, so far than Rubio whose neocon tendencies can be explained by his Cuban exile herritage. However for DeMint defense spending increases are his reason d'etre and will exert his influence to push many tea-partiers in overly most militaristic positions.

[BenIsForRon]

Bernie Sanders could be an ally on civil liberty and war issues.

[sailingaway]

Bernie Sanders could be an ally on civil liberty and war issues.

As long as Rand solely sponsors the bill, remember how Sanders sold out HR 1207 (SB 604).

[BenIsForRon]

As long as Rand solely sponsors the bill, remember how Sanders sold out HR 1207 (SB 604).

Well, according to Sanders he realized that a full audit wouldn't get enough votes, so he created a watered down version to get at least one audit.

But yeah, he probably should have stuck to his guns and used the full audit to apply political pressure.

[sailingaway]

Well, according to Sanders he realized that a full audit wouldn't get enough votes, so he created a watered down version to get at least one audit.

But yeah, he probably should have stuck to his guns and used the full audit to apply political pressure.

BS. There already were the votes, and they would have been embarrassed to change their votes and wouldn't have, likely before an election, unless Sanders gave them a different wording. Boxer, for example, had been pressured to cosponsor, then wanted to vote w/ the white house but I sincerely doubt she'd have changed her vote going into the election. So they were able to 'keep' the votes for a bill that was replaced by different text, while the bill text they HAD supported was voted down under a different amendment.

Sanders sold out. Even firedoglake was pissed about it.

[Fozz]

I am not sure where the notion of DeMint being a friend of liberty comes from. He is one of the most hawkish neocons on the GOP senate . More so, so far than Rubio whose neocon tendencies can be explained by his Cuban exile herritage. However for DeMint defense spending increases are his reason d'etre and will exert his influence to push many tea-partiers in overly most militaristic positions.

You're getting DeMint mixed up with Lindsey Graham.

[sailingaway]

Rubio is the establishment's choice,I'm quite convinced.He won by such a large margin,which they trumpet.?

The Dems didn't send union troops and Organizing for America into the state for massively enhanced GOTV. They did in KY, and in Nevada, and some other places, but Rubio didn't scare them, and Meeks didn't excite them, enough to do it in Florida.

[down-under]

You're getting DeMint mixed up with Lindsey Graham.


No, I am not. Type Demint foreign policy on google...



Who Will Stand Between Obama and the World
10 Republicans who are about to become the new foreign-policy power brokers.


DeMint (R-S.C.) has been carrying the Tea Party banner in the Senate, staking out foreign-policy positions in clear opposition to the administration and often to the right of the GOP leadership -- such as his outright opposition to the new START treaty. He also uses his perch on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to fight vigorously for his pet projects, such as a global U.S. missile defense shield. Most incoming Tea Party candidates don't focus on foreign policy, but many will owe allegiance to DeMint because he has been filling their campaign coffers. They could be inclined to follow suit with his unilateralist, militaristic worldview, which many see as based on his neoconservative ideology rather than a realistic pursuit of U.S. interests in multipolar world order.

DeMint is also very active on Latin America policy, having interjected himself into last year's debate over U.S. policy toward Honduras. He opposed ousted President Manuel Zelaya, and the State Department eventually followed suit. He is also a leading proponent of the Mexico City rule, under which foreign aid could be denied to international organizations that perform or educate women about abortions.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/10/25/who_will_stand_between_obama_and_the_world?page=0, 3

[Feeding the Abscess]

Yeah, I'm really at a loss for the love for DeMint around here.

Dude sucks. Really bad.

Anyone who is for a hawkish foreign policy and destruction of civil liberties at home is NOT an ally of ours. Ever. Even if they had 100% agreement on economic principles; which DeMint doesn't have.