Disgusting! The Left is targeting Rand's kids

[Libertea Party]

This loser Alex Pareene at Salon has been stalking Rand Paul since the beginning. Before the victory you could see that he was already unhinged and unconfirmed JournOlist member. But the defeat of his JournOlist/Nutroots campaign against Rand Paul has left him as an even more demented nutcase (http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/11/02/election_night_liveblog):


Meanwhile, Rand Paul victory speech! Oh god those were Rand Paul's kids playing Dad's victory party? They look a little bit like the sort of young men who pay tribute to a certain aquatic religious figure, if you know what I mean.

What would motivate someone to write something like that but pure unhinged hatred? Talking about someone else's kids and what they "look like", and what they worship, really? It's not so much the specific attack which is weird in itself but the depraved mindset you have to have to talk about 1) someone else's children 2) what they look like and 3) what their future actions will be.

What an unhinged psycho!

Also notice how this leftist writer like many others seem to think that just stringing words together and attacking Rand Paul's family is "humor". It's like these washed-up "comedians" such as Jeannene Garafolo that just cuss and spew left-wing venom and think it's supposed to be funny. Just sad.

He moves on from Rand's kids to revealing his inner dialogue with himself:


This is an EPIC victory speech from Rand Paul. The theme is how if the Senate is so Deliberative, why don't they Deliberate on HOW FUCKIN' AWESOME AMERICA IS. The other theme is that government cannot create jobs or prosperity, and no benevolent leaders will help us -- he will go to the United States Senate and demand that they stop attempting to make things better, for anyone, in the name of liberty.

"I will ask the Senate, respectfully, to deliberate upon this: Do we wish to live free, or be enslaved by debt?" And the Senate will say, "You're a freshman junior senator from the minority party, go to hell."


Notice the curse words and manic reaction from this nutcase. In another thread(1 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2900321&postcount=20), 2 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2900404&postcount=23)) we've touched on how Pareene specifically--and other Journolisters in general-- try to manipulate things into talking points and narratives.

That thread reminds me that possible Journolister/Townhouser Lawrence O'Donnell is continuing the campaign by trying to divide Rand Paul and the Tea Party from the base given the recent "filibustering the debt ceiling" talking point. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=266970)

The purpose I have in writing this post is that I think we're dealing with unhinged weirdos that will stop at nothing to destroy Rand Paul. How is that a paid writer for the largest liberal opinion site in the world feels it's okay to nonchalantly attack Rand Paul's kids?

I think the some of the Left just believes that people like us/Rand Paul don't deserve to be treated with civility given our political views. Just yesterday I saw that the Larouchie cult have called for the following (http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16337):


"Target Number One is Rand Paul, the poster boy for the so-called "Tea Party" movement, who was elected Republican Senator from Kentucky. We should tear him apart, LaRouche said yesterday. We'll show the honest Democrats how to fight.

It goes on for another three paragraphs. Sadly, I expect this irrational hatred from the LaRouche types but I think the MSM is on the same war path with them on Rand Paul.

I don't think the attacks are going to lessen I think they're only going to get worse. Whatever you think of Sarah Palin what's coming after Rand Paul is going to be 1000x worse.

I don't know the what the best way to combat it is. Anyone who has any idea of how to deal with the coming onslaught, from ignoring it to confronting it put down some ideas below. I'm thinking a sort of pro-liberty equivalent of Newsbusters since from what I've seen they don't pick up on the crap we do either purposefully or not.

Remember, I think this is where Rand Paul's opponents are mentally:http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8233/liberalviolence1.jpg

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/original/pareenepic.jpghttp://thepeoplescube.com/images/Alex_Pareene.jpg

[Jeremy]

Woooooowwww @ Larouche...

[TheConstitutionLives]

One or two people writing or acting a certain way doesn't equate to "the left is attacking Rand's kids". Seriously now.

[Libertea Party]

One or two people writing or acting a certain way doesn't equate to "the left is attacking Rand's kids". Seriously now.

He's the online equivalent of an O'Reilly or Hannity. If O'Reilly made the exact comment about Al Franken's kids what reaction do you think he'd get?

[revolutionary8]

Thanks for the heads up Libertea.
Couple of thoughts:
- All out WAR
-How can we learn from Palin and how the press treated her and her children?

[revolutionary8]

One or two people writing or acting a certain way doesn't equate to "the left is attacking Rand's kids". Seriously now.
Good idea. Let's just ignore it until it makes the rounds through the JournOList echo chambers, gets spread around, perfected and "talking pointed", and THEN we should talk, meanwhile, TAKE THE TIME TO COMMENT on the subject, calling those who WANT to talk "unworthy of conversation". :rolleyes:
Ridiculous at best.


nm,
all the s* I just talked about above has probably already happened.:cool:

[Libertea Party]

Thanks for the heads up Libertea.
Couple of thoughts:
- All out WAR
-How can we learn from Palin and how the press treated her and her children?

Pareene's corner of Salon is literally called "War Room". I don't know it's just so weird. How do you oppose psychos?

Palin has the luxury of at least not being in office so she can directly respond to these demented attacks. Rand is Senator-elect and I don't know what range of action he has without breaching the decorum of the Senate.

Al Frankin has done far worse than just responding to critics. He's mocked Mitch McConnell the highest ranking Republican on the floor of the Senate but later apologized. (http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/05/al-franken-to-mitch-mcconnell-hey-sorry-for-acting-like-a-jackass-during-your-kagan-speech/) But Rand Paul is not jackass Al Franken.

[RM918]

Pareene's a refuge from Wonkette or Gawker, I don't remember which but the former would make sense considering the sort of unbridled hatred they spewed at Ron Paul during the primaries and then called it 'humor'.

Pareene just wants hits and attention, he's a nobody, the best way to fight him is to ignore him.

[sailingaway]

I think he saw Vaughn's people, then heard it announced that Rand's kids were playing, and didn't really put the announcement together with the right people. The kids are so clean cut, it simply doesn't even make sense as an insult.

I first thought of posting their picture then thought, no, I didn't want to put their picture where Rand's opponents are.

[revolutionary8]

Pareene's a refuge from Wonkette or Gawker, I don't remember which but the former would make sense considering the sort of unbridled hatred they spewed at Ron Paul during the primaries and then called it 'humor'.

Pareene just wants hits and attention, he's a nobody, the best way to fight him is to ignore him.

Your argument is only true if you have the "power" to give atttention to something that is not worthy of attention, for the wrong reasons. RPF doesn't fit in either of those categories so, IMO, that "give attention" argument is moot up to a certain degree. If it is US who "manufacture" the story, then yes, but REST ASSURED, it won't be up to 'US' as to what "story" gains attention, and to either a)blame us for the attantion or b)hold us responsible for "the attention" is egotistical and shallow at best.

I think that discussing the issue that is being discussed here is just fine. I see absolutely no need for censorship (up to this point) and I see the issue for what it is. That lowlife attacked Rand Paul's kids, basically called em' "stoners" b/c of their HAIRCUTS and GUITARS. That is the issue.
Don't you get it?
Haircut =I smoke pot Play Guitar- I smoke pot.

:D

[revolutionary8]

I think he saw Vaughn's people, then heard it announced that Rand's kids were playing, and didn't really put the announcement together with the right people. The kids are so clean cut, it simply doesn't even make sense as an insult.

I first thought of posting their picture then thought, no, I didn't want to put their picture where Rand's opponents are.

who cares why the idiot clumped all teenage boys with hair that play guitar in to one group, all that matters is that they all smoke pot. :D

This could actually be played really well. This guy is a complete tool. Never put a good crisis to waste.

[sailingaway]

who cares why the idiot clumped all teenage boys with hair that play guitar in to one group, all that matters is that they all smoke pot. :D

This could actually be played really well. This guy is a complete tool. Never put a good crisis to waste.

You think we should perceive a crises about his kids?

As a parent myself, I don't think he'd thank you.

[revolutionary8]

You think we should perceive a crises about his kids?

As a parent myself, I don't think he'd thank you.
no, that is not what I meant at all. I apologize.
There is no "crisis" that is the whole point. They are just trying to make one up. it is a false flag. That is all I was trying to say. If it becomes blatant that they are "using his children as political fodder" and if they are exposed for it, then that is a good thing.
Hopefully that explains it better. There are a lot of young kids who would take offense to this, as they should, yet "the compassionate" try to exploit them and use them as political fodder themselves. The attack is already out there. I was just trying to discuss how it should be interpreted. Perhpas taking Geithner's words back wasn't the best, most politically correct route.

[sailingaway]

Yeah, I didn't even post it. I figured it would just tick people off, but responding to it would encourage them.... and they are his KIDS. I think they aren't proper fodder.

[revolutionary8]

sailingaway, I all honesty, I don't think that what RPF "responds to" has any bearing as to what will or will not be taken and ran with by the media. If we had that much clout, I would be jumping for joy. :)

[sailingaway]

sailingaway, I all honesty, I don't think that what RPF "responds to" has any bearing as to what will or will not be taken and ran with by the media. If we had that much clout, I would be jumping for joy. :)

I think this was so marginal it isn't an issue unless we make it one.

[TheConstitutionLives]

I think this was so marginal it isn't an issue unless we make it one.

agree

[Sonny Burnett]

The question that I have is why are you giving this guy so much attention? Do you really think that anyone with any sense takes anything that he says seriously? If you just ignore him in a short time he will go away.

[surGeon]

Don't conflate one douchebag with "the left."

[Libertea Party]

The question that I have is why are you giving this guy so much attention? Do you really think that anyone with any sense takes anything that he says seriously? If you just ignore him in a short time he will go away.

Look I hope you're right that this guy is an isolated case. I think many on the left, including the MSM, have the same unhinged mental state towards Rand Paul.

I think if this is an indicator of the level of the hostility we'll have to endure then we should figure out a way to deal with it. Ignoring it was one of the option I laid out:


I don't know the what the best way to combat it is. Anyone who has any idea of how to deal with the coming onslaught, from ignoring it to confronting it put down some ideas below. I'm thinking a sort of pro-liberty equivalent of Newsbusters since from what I've seen they don't pick up on the crap we do either purposefully or not.

I just don't think it's isolated and I think neocons feel the same way. There will probably be a concerted campaign to demonize Rand Paul. It will probably trickle up to the MSM like other successful Journolist operations have (http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/23/video-journolists-success-in-setting-the-message/). If the MSM doesn't matter then fine. But realize this crap is probably coming and we need to figure out to what extent it's necessary to confront it.

[Thomas]

Wtf >:{

[Matt Collins]

Who cares? :rolleyes:

[revolutionary8]

Libertea, I hate to bump this and there a lot of people commenting here that I have a lot of respect for, but in principle, I think I am with you on this. For one, shooting the messenger will get us absolutely nowhere. In fact I think it actually takes us backwards.

Secondly, all this has already happened. The Gawker goes off the deep end first. The rest follow suit if the "jumper" tells the others the landing is good. If the landing is wrecked, well, then...

IMO, prevention is the best cure.

[squarepusher]

i dont think it was that bad, just called his kids aqua buddah? thatsa joke right

[dannno]

I don't see how insinuating that his kids looked stoned while they were playing guitar is an insult, but whatevs.. I'd take it as a compliment.. but I think if they were stoned they would have played better (though really I thought they did great all considering..)

[AuH20]

The hate has only just begun. You wait until you see what's coming down the pike. This is nothing. In 1964, 1189 psychiatrists of 2400 who responded for a psychological analysis of Barry Goldwater, found him psychologically unfit to be president:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-personality-analyst/200908/libel-in-factthe-1189-psychiatrists


I believe Goldwater has the same pathological make-up as Hitler, Castro, Stalin and other known schizophrenic leaders. My reasons for saying this are:
(1) Logical or scientific or truthful analyses of his statements is completely impossible. His words are double-talk!
(2) His statements and actions show distinct persecution feelings. For example, when Rockefeller repeated to the Republican Convention some of Goldwater's earlier remarks, Goldwater had a picture of himself distributed which showed an arrow in his back.
My dedication against Goldwater as President is founded in the sincere belief that he is a dangerous so-called compensated schizophrenic.

It hasn't even started yet. :D

[revolutionary8]

I don't see how insinuating that his kids looked stoned while they were playing guitar is an insult, but whatevs.. I'd take it as a compliment.. but I think if they were stoned they would have played better (though really I thought they did great all considering..)


You cannot say that, some will take it as an attack on his kids.

[revolutionary8]

The hate has only just begun. You wait until you see what's coming down the pike. This is nothing. In 1964, 1189 psychiatrists of 2400 who responded for a psychological analysis of Barry Goldwater, found him psychologically unfit to be president:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-personality-analyst/200908/libel-in-factthe-1189-psychiatrists



It hasn't even started yet. :D

well it's best to know our history in order NOT TO REPEAT IT! GOOD LORD!!


The back cover quoted psychiatrists who said of Goldwater:

"While I heartily believe that we should hire the handicapped, I hardly think that a man who has suffered two nervous breakdowns should be given the job of President as occupational therapy."

"His theme is ‘freedom' - but from what? Unconsciously, it seems to be from his mother's domination..."
that is crazy! Times have never changed in politico world! :eek:

[sailingaway]

You cannot say that, some will take it as an attack on his kids.

and on his parenting.

[revolutionary8]

and on his parenting.
yes of course that too. :mad:

[dude58677]

What a sore loser!!!

[dannno]

You cannot say that, some will take it as an attack on his kids.

lol, well ya, they shouldn't have SAID it.. insinuating that a person's kids were actually stoned without then saying that you are joking isn't a good idea.

I just don't see how it is insulting that they thought his kids were stoned during the performance.


If you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years were rrreal fucking high on drugs.

-Bill Hicks


It's like somebody saying, "You know Ron Paul's kids?? I heard they are performing MEDICAL PROCEDURES!! And you know what?? I think they went to MED SCHOOL!! Can you believe it?"

It's just sort of a, well, I would say just short of a pre-requisite to playing good music (not required, but ya know..)

[Jandrsn21]

Who cares? :rolleyes:

exactly.........

kicking and screaming from the ideologues who are still in denial. Their socialist utopia, that Obama was supposed to usher in, collapsed, you should pity them.

[dead drunks dont dance]

Whatever you do, DON'T hack their websites.

[Dripping Rain]

Palin's family were no exception. The left attacked even her disabled child. so Im not surprised those communist bastards would attack the faith of his innocent children