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Agorism
11-05-2010, 04:59 PM
There's a reason why this is in Rand Paul section

Tea Party backlash
On the whole, these insurgents lost big. And that's good news for the Republicans by David Frum (http://theweek.com/bullpen/column/208911/tea-party-backlash)

The Republican leaders won twice last night. They won a majority in the House of Representatives and a big gain in the Senate.

Those leaders also won an important psychological contest inside the Republican party: Three ridiculously winnable Senate seats have been thrown away by incompetent Tea Party radicals: Delaware, Nevada, and possibly Colorado.

Meanwhile two tough seats have been won by level-headed Republican moderates: Illinois and Ohio.

The ultra-radical Rand Paul won his race in Kentucky and will be coming to Washington to make trouble for his arch-enemy. That's not President Obama, but Republican Majority Leader and fellow Kentuckian Mitch McConnell.

But if Rand Paul arrives unreinforced by other Tea Party radicals, it's not only Paul who will be contained.

The Tea Party radicals were supported by all the weight and noise of talk radio and Fox News. They were supported by an alternative power structure within the GOP: The fundraising power of South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint's Senate Conservatives Fund. Their defeat raises important questions about the whole Tea Party project. It also weakens the alternative power structure in the GOP and strengthens the power of party's formal leaders against its informal ones. That's all good news.

It's good news, for instance, for the United States and world economy. The Tea Party Republicans were often depicted as protectionists, which is not exactly right. But they did share a cranky conviction that the deflationary United States had more to fear from inflation -- and an idiosyncratic mistrust of the central banking powers of the Federal Reserve. A chastened Tea Party enables traditional Republican leaders to defend the independence of the Fed. With Congress likely to be gridlocked, the Fed matters more than ever: Monetary stimulus will be the only stimulus in town.

But the first order of business is accountability.

The Tea Party radicals had previously defeated better and more electable candidates: Mike Castle in Delaware, Sue Lowden in Nevada, Jane Norton in Colorado. Somehow the notion took hold that it was unprincipled and contemptible to support smarter candidates over stupid candidates, inclusive candidates over divisive candidates, experienced candidates over inexperienced, goverance-minded candidates over protest-vote candidates.

That notion may have cost Republicans the Senate Tuesday night. It may cost much more in future, if Sarah Palin makes the run for the presidential nomination.

So it needs to be pounded home: The radicals must not be allowed to claim the title of the real Republicans. They must not be allowed to dismiss the true electable, governing core of the party as "Republicans in Name Only." If anything, it's the Tea Party radicals with their incessant threats to bolt and form a third party who deserve that name.

National Republican organizations poured resources into Nevada to win the state for Sharron Angle. But she could not be troubled to answer questions from reporters. Mere non-answering was an improvement over Alaska's Joe Miller, who actually had a reporter (illegally) arrested by his private security detail. The candidates who campaigned to save the country from President Obama's "Afro-Marxist-fascist tyranny" proved themselves thoroughly contemptuous of the rights of others.

Goodbye and good riddance.

-David Frum



http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0133f589d5a4970b-600wi

sailingaway
11-05-2010, 05:00 PM
Talk about spin! The tea parties didn't exist three years ago -- this was an amazing triumph.

DeadheadForPaul
11-05-2010, 05:09 PM
Before the Ron Paul Revolution/Tea Party movement started, did the mainstream media or Washington elite EVER talk about the debt? No, they were busy debating steroids in the MLB and whether it's illegal for Barry Bonds to shrink his balls or not.

Did they EVER talk about the FED or monetary policy? No, too busy discussing Janet Jackson's titty flash at the Superbowl.

In the past few years, the central debate has been about our debt.


And Ron Paul ALMOST had a bill go through - and it was an AUDIT of the FED!

If you had told me 4 years ago that this would all be happening, I would have laughed at you like a crazy person.

We have changed the debate in Washington.
We have changed the debate in the entire country.
We kicked the RINOs and neo-cons to the curb.

We kicked out several career politicians for 6 years and replaced them with some new blood

The GOP knows that it can no longer take fiscal conservatives for granted.
We sent a big message in those primary wins - even if many of those candidates lost in the general

I think we put the fear of God into the elite of both parties, the MSM, and the FED

And we got Ron Paul some help in both the House and Senate.

I gotta chalk all this up to WIN

sailingaway
11-05-2010, 05:12 PM
Yeah but neocon power is diminishing and the old right sees a way back through the tea party enthusiasm, which I think is great. Frum said Rand would ABSOLUTELY lose the primary, then that he would ABSOLUTELY cost the GOP Kentucky. Frum knows nothing.

Agorism
11-05-2010, 05:14 PM
The reason I like this article is that it paints Rand Paul well.

See conservative Bush\McCain supporters\Rush Limbaugh types despise Frum, and love the Tea Party movement.

Yet, here is Frum saying that the only good Tea Party member capable of winning was Paul.

So it's a great article for us.

Libertea Party
11-05-2010, 05:20 PM
Frum got teabagged and wants to "control the narrative" just like Conway was trying to do. He will not admit his huge embarrassment (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=249004) and thumpin:

" David Frum should stay away from Vegas. Clearly, the man who wrote Bush's axis of evil speech likes to gamble. But he's not very good at it. Back in February, when I interviewed him for a BBC Analysis programme, he dismissed the Tea Party movement as "a couple hundred thousand people" in "Paul Revere suits" whose influence was hyped by the media. "The Tea Party movement first presents a challenge to people who cover politics," he claimed. "Because they're vivid, because we're looking for what is exciting, there's always a tendency to overplay the importance of the people who are making the most noise."

When I pointed out to him that Rand Paul – a Tea Party candidate I'd interviewed a couple of months earlier – was mounting a strong challenge against an establishment Republican candidate in Kentucky, Frum claimed it was all hype. "I would want to take some pretty good odds on that race at my bookmakers," he said. In May, Paul won the primary with a 23.4% margin. Frum would have lost his shirt. ...."

One thing that this election has proved is that people like Frum don't matter. Rand Paul had Mitch McConnell, Dick Cheney, the local GOP, the national GOP, the local newspaper, the national news all against him. Frum has a dinky little blog.

Rand Paul has been attacked by people more powerful than Frum would be if he lived to be a 1000 years old.

http://onlinefinished.com/images/dvd/tea%20bag%20%2811%29.jpg
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/59798/thumbs/s-DAVID-FRUM-large.jpghttp://www.jonesreport.com/image/04_08/280408frum.jpg

Libertea Party
11-05-2010, 05:34 PM
Here at 1:45 in Frum gets embarrassed. He tries to spin it of course, but in a productive trade not tied to politics he'd be fired: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/david-frum-on-the-colbert-report-whats-good-for-sarah-palin-is-bad-for-america/

Brett85
11-05-2010, 05:51 PM
Frum is an idiot. He doesn't even realize that McConnell is the minority leader and not the majority leader.

"The ultra-radical Rand Paul won his race in Kentucky and will be coming to Washington to make trouble for his arch-enemy. That's not President Obama, but Republican Majority Leader and fellow Kentuckian Mitch McConnell."

HarryBrowneLives
11-05-2010, 06:10 PM
F$%K Frum ... and the Little Bill Krisol he rode in on:p

JoshLowry
11-05-2010, 06:21 PM
Every one of you would be capable of leading this movement.

I love how we have the establishment in our crosshairs.

low preference guy
11-05-2010, 06:23 PM
Frum is a leftist. Conservatives have stopped taking him seriously a long time ago. Levin, Limbaugh, Erickson, all trashed that anti-semite.

Monarchist
11-05-2010, 10:20 PM
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/59798/thumbs/s-DAVID-FRUM-large.jpghttp://www.jonesreport.com/image/04_08/280408frum.jpg

Gott im Himmel, he's an unfortunate-looking one.