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MsDoodahs
11-01-2010, 09:54 AM
Naomi just told Karen Finney "I think you're being condescending" to those who believe in the Constitution and are concerned about the erosion of civil liberties - happened on MS-DNC just now - did anyone else catch it?

I had just flipped over there, so I missed the lead up to it....

BenIsForRon
11-01-2010, 09:55 AM
Naomi Wolf is lightyears ahead of most other liberals on these issues. She realizes we're no safer than we were under Bush.

MsDoodahs
11-01-2010, 09:57 AM
If you haven't seen the you tube of her talk (End of America), you really HAVE to watch it.

:)

Deborah K
11-01-2010, 09:57 AM
Here's a picture of her that was taken at the Revolution March while she was speaking

http://i27.tinypic.com/23vc6zm.jpg

Deborah K
11-01-2010, 10:01 AM
http://i52.tinypic.com/ivzimg.jpg

johnrocks
11-01-2010, 10:01 AM
She's a liberal that I just can't help but to like. I honestly think she could be converted to libertarianism,lol.

Travlyr
11-01-2010, 10:04 AM
http://i52.tinypic.com/ivzimg.jpg
Nice! :cool:

CUnknown
11-01-2010, 10:07 AM
No, she shouldn't convert! I'm glad that she's there, to try and convert other liberals to the place where she is, wherever that is. She's a liberal who mostly understands us, and we mostly understand her, and that to me is a beautiful thing.

The thing is, not everyone is going to become a libertarian. Not everyone is going to become liberal, or conservative, or whatever. People have different opinions, and that's the only way it can be, and the only way it should be. Too many people (both Obama lovers and Glen Beck fans) are guilty of not even trying to understand the other side. What we need is understanding and tolerance, and Naomi Wolf proves that liberals and libertarians can have that. So, no, I don't want her to convert.

Original_Intent
11-01-2010, 10:18 AM
Our strength is in the diversity of our unity. Not the politically correct, government mandated kind, but the liberty kind where people of hugely diverse beliefs can unite and work together for agreed upon foundational principles.

I mean we have theocrats and atheists, pro-life, pro-choice, anarchists (OK, as a matter of principle they don;t participate so much as act as a peanut gallery) and relatively statists, and yet most of us are here, working together (more or less) - it's a beautiful thing!

The spirit of "E Pluribus, Unum" if it ever existed!

Deborah K
11-01-2010, 10:22 AM
No, she shouldn't convert! I'm glad that she's there, to try and convert other liberals to the place where she is, wherever that is. She's a liberal who mostly understands us, and we mostly understand her, and that to me is a beautiful thing.

The thing is, not everyone is going to become a libertarian. Not everyone is going to become liberal, or conservative, or whatever. People have different opinions, and that's the only way it can be, and the only way it should be. Too many people (both Obama lovers and Glen Beck fans) are guilty of not even trying to understand the other side. What we need is understanding and tolerance, and Naomi Wolf proves that liberals and libertarians can have that. So, no, I don't want her to convert.

I agree. And Naomi isn't the only one that proves it. Ron Paul does as well. If ever this country needed a unifying President it is now and Ron Paul fits the need to a Tee.

Romulus
11-01-2010, 10:28 AM
I like Naomi.. I think for the most part she gets it.. that was a nice comment of hers in the OP.

aravoth
11-01-2010, 11:41 AM
http://i52.tinypic.com/ivzimg.jpg

Clearly your image is photoshopped....

Luckily I found the Actual Image a short time ago...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/aravoth/TheCollins.png

Original_Intent
11-01-2010, 11:43 AM
Clearly your image is photoshopped....

Luckily I found the Actual Image a short time ago...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/aravoth/TheCollins.png

:D

Sola_Fide
11-01-2010, 11:48 AM
Clearly your image is photoshopped....

Luckily I found the Actual Image a short time ago...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/aravoth/TheCollins.png

I just laughed really hard at that for some reason...

Deborah K
11-01-2010, 12:52 PM
Clearly your image is photoshopped....

Luckily I found the Actual Image a short time ago...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/aravoth/TheCollins.png

OMG!!! That is too funny!!!

eqcitizen
11-01-2010, 02:20 PM
Hey even Lew Rockwell seems to like her and seems to believe she is on her way to becoming a libertarian...
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/?s=wolf

teacherone
11-01-2010, 02:22 PM
matt got a boob reduction i see...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/aravoth/TheCollins.png

Deborah K
11-01-2010, 02:26 PM
matt got a boob reduction i see...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/aravoth/TheCollins.png

Are you implying that my boobs are smaller than Matts???? :eek:

Brooklyn Red Leg
11-01-2010, 02:44 PM
Are you implying that my boobs are smaller than Matts???? :eek:

Eh, well, you know...there isn't really any photographic evidence one way or the other. There are, after all, supposed to be objective measures.....:D

Bruehound
11-01-2010, 03:28 PM
Naomi Wolf saying good things about the freedom movement can only mean one thing: she must have books to sell.

aravoth
11-01-2010, 03:43 PM
Are you implying that my boobs are smaller than Matts???? :eek:

I think he's saying that Matt has some of the nicest man-boobs he's ever seen. I'm sure there is a story behind that, but I don't think we'll ever hear about it. Maybe Matt Has pictures?

anaconda
11-01-2010, 03:47 PM
She's a liberal that I just can't help but to like. I honestly think she could be converted to libertarianism,lol.

Yes. She just needs to see the economics. I like her immensely. I wonder if she may eventually endorse a Ron Paul 2012 bid? Would be great for swing votes and converting libs.

CUnknown
11-01-2010, 04:02 PM
Yes. She just needs to see the economics. I like her immensely. I wonder if she may eventually endorse a Ron Paul 2012 bid? Would be great for swing votes and converting libs.

Yes, this I am totally behind. She should endorse Ron Paul 2012, assuming he runs. And for the love of God, she'd better not vote for Obama again, or she's just a fraud. But I don't think she will.

dannno
11-01-2010, 04:18 PM
I think he's saying that Matt has some of the nicest man-boobs he's ever seen. I'm sure there is a story behind that, but I don't think we'll ever hear about it. Maybe Matt Has pictures?


YouTube - Matt Collins of Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty Does Truffle Shuffle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU1xMyCGiAA)




Are you implying that my boobs are smaller than Matts???? :eek:


So what are the results?

KurtBoyer25L
11-01-2010, 06:21 PM
She's aces. There's such a big difference between her "liberal" ideas and those of modern statist liberals. She appears to want to remedy certain social problems *while* preserving the liberty of citizens. Not an easy or indomitable worldview, but if we remember that 10% of the war budget would pay for massive shelters & food charity in every major U.S. city...liberals who believe that minimal amounts of money should be granted by a minimal-size government to protect against death from poverty, child neglect etc. are more an extension of Libertarian "minarchism" than a wing of modern liberal/corporatist rule.

xd9fan
11-01-2010, 06:41 PM
I just dont trust her.......

fj45lvr
11-01-2010, 08:52 PM
I just dont trust her.......

well considering her roots you can definitely question her rationality and judgement THEN....but EVERYONE "evolves" or "de-evolves" in the thinking (normally)

aravoth
11-02-2010, 12:41 AM
YouTube - Matt Collins of Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty Does Truffle Shuffle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU1xMyCGiAA)







holy crap!

teacherone
11-02-2010, 07:07 AM
Are you implying that my boobs are smaller than Matts???? :eek:
yes:cool:

jazzloversinc
11-02-2010, 09:03 AM
That woman is a nut. She had to get on anti depressants because she was so afraid obama would not win. Forget her. She will throw the liberty movement under the bus for the socialist democrats and her hollyweird friends. YUCK.

aclove
11-02-2010, 10:18 AM
I'm sorry, but your post is disqualified for use of the word "hollyweird."

ItsTime
11-02-2010, 10:36 AM
She is a useful idiot and progressive hack.