FRC:Ron will have 20 minutes to speak - Live on CSPAN

[Starks]

He'll be on CSPAN at around 2:20PM EDT.

[Eric21ND]

bump

[SouthernGuy15]

The fact Ron Paul is speaking is the ONLY reason I would listen to this.

[Danny Molina]

EWWW Duncan Hunter is talking!

[V4Vendetta]

The fact Ron Paul is speaking is the ONLY reason I would listen to this.

I totally Agree with you my Friend from the South!

The South will rise again... Texas here

[RP08]

http://www.cspan.org/watch/


.

[FrankRep]

http://www.cspan.org/watch/


rock on

[SouthernGuy15]

In my opinion, it's disgusting when my fellow Christians allow themselves to be brainwashed by warmongering neocons. We are supposed to be PEACEFUL! However, so many Christians cheer on the war in Iraq.

[Danny Molina]

Because they want a continuation of the crusades.

[Danny Molina]

He's on!!!

[ThePieSwindler]

uh which channel is it on...

[RonPaulFever]

Not much of a welcome from the crowd....

[Thomas_Paine]

I wish I could see this!

[Nickel]

For anyone with XM radio, this is being broadcast on XM130 (POTUS 08).

[RP08]

http://www.cspan.org/watch/







.

[SWATH]

Jeez he's getting no love from the crowd (compared to Hunter)

[JoshLowry]

He is getting some good claps when he pauses...

[FrankRep]

http://www.cspan.org/watch/

http://www.cspan.org/watch/

C-SPAN RADIO
Public Affairs Programming

[SWATH]

Every damn thing Hunter said, he got a standing ovation. Paul sounds like he's getting applause from the same 15 people.

[Starks]

The crowd likes what they hear!

[Starks]

Aww shit... He got nothing on the Iraq comment.

[ThePieSwindler]

not the best crowd...

[SWATH]

No Love!

[RonPaulFever]

yikes.....only about 3 people clapped when he said our soldiers should be protecting our borders instead of being sent to Iraq :eek:

[DrNoZone]

Ouch, you could almost hear a pin drop when RP said we need to bring the National Guard home from Iraq. This crowd is full of war mongers!

[Danny Molina]

Very tough crowd.

[kylejack]

Keep in mind that these people have been sold on the war for a long time...when they here something like this, its got to shock them a bit. Sometimes the silence means they're analyzing themselves and their own opinions. They're suspicious of him, surely, but he might be inserting a little doubt into their minds about whether good Christians would support this war.

[ThePieSwindler]

very good segment here.

[risiusj]

Old people = brainwashed by Bill O'RLY

[nullvalu]

Where is he speaking?

[SouthernGuy15]

No, a lot of these people are brainwashed by their pastors telling them that God has told Bush to go murder people in Iraq.

[mkrfctr]

go murder people in Iraq.

liberate. The word is 'liberate'

[nullvalu]

good crowd response about having not DoE

[SouthernGuy15]

This Christians who have been getting fed big government brainwashing by their neo-con pastors are finally learning about LIBERTY, FREEDOM, and the CONSTITUTION!

Today is a good day.

[richard1984]

I love Ron Paul!!!

This is REALLY GREAT!!!!!!!

[Vaughn]

they seem to really be warming to him. Thats a good sign.

[nullvalu]

they seem to really be warming to him. Thats a good sign.

Yes, definately the crowd is waking up..

Can someone tell me where he is & who he's talking to?

EDIT: Oh, nm the Value Voters Summit

wow, he's on a roll! damn everyone in that room will be ron paul supporters after this speech

[SouthernGuy15]

They are thinking, "My pastor never told me freedom and liberty was a good thing!"

[Sematary]

Can someone post video when it's done?

[winston_blade]

Great speech he is making. I think he is making some progress.

[Phenom24]

Be great if the feed would load...

Dang it!

Hopefully the audience comes around. If enough people who aren't necessarily "political" (meaning Sean doesn't dump in their brain cavity each day) get a taste of the freedom message, they would be a great ally and voting bloc.

(that's why I don't give up on my fellow church attendees)

:)

[DrNoZone]

Ugh, he's so scattered sometimes. The message is good, but man he needs to work on his delivery.

[SouthernGuy15]

He gave a good speech!

Ron Paul is awesome!

If you like what you heard please make a donation!

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/

[Grandson of Liberty]

Didn't see it, but judging from the comments. . one of the many reasons I'm an RP fan is he's not afraid to call it like he sees it even when the crowd may not like what they hear. He doesn't pander or sugarcoat to appease the masses.

[AlexAmore]

Standing ovation!

[BLS]

Wow...what a GREAT speech!

[Sematary]

Standing ovation!

VIDEO!!!!!!

[ThePieSwindler]

Ugh, he's so scattered sometimes. The message is good, but man he needs to work on his delivery.

??

he made sense in all his points.. he was going through talking points, and his interweaving thread was that of liberty and the constitution. I think the speech was perfectly coherent, though it was not perfectly linear, which might have made it seem a bit "scattered".

[Malakai0]

Ugh, he's so scattered sometimes. The message is good, but man he needs to work on his delivery.


You guys are crazy. That was one of his best speeches. Everyone in my house gave a standing ovation and I'm the only actual Ron Paul supporter.

By giving natural speeches that don't sound repeatedly perfectly rehearsed, it just makes Ron seem all the more real. We love it!

[DrNoZone]

Standing ovation!

Well, a few people stood up anyway. And by the looks on their faces they were doing it so as not to seem like they weren't going along with the rest of those who stood up. It was more out of courtesy than support for RP.

[kpfareal]

Just caught the tail end of the speech (my wife was watching "Let's Make a Deal" and got pissed when I changed the channel).

Great speech by Dr. Paul.

[steph3n]

He is no orator, but you can tell he has a plan for THIS country, he loves this country, and he wants people to be free.

[DrNoZone]

You guys are crazy. That was one of his best speeches. Everyone in my house gave a standing ovation and I'm the only actual Ron Paul supporter.

By giving natural speeches that don't sound repeatedly perfectly rehearsed, it just makes Ron seem all the more real. We love it!

Yes, I understand that. I'm not saying he needs to be rehearsed. But he stumbles over his words so often and he misspeaks and pauses and ho's and hums. I just wasn't that impressed.

He admits though, he's not the greatest orator.

[libertarianguy]

test

[Vaughn]

I caught the last 5 min. From what i heard he did really well. He definitely helped to open the audiences mind. I thought this would be a disaster but it seemed to go well.

[Ron Paul Fan]

Ugh, he's so scattered sometimes. The message is good, but man he needs to work on his delivery.

I thought he did a great job. I don't know what Congressman Paul has to do to please some of the people around here. His message of limited government, freedom, and personal responsibility resonated with his true supporters on here and with the crowd who gave him a standing ovation. Ron Paul is a true patriot and champion of liberty. It's a shame that some people don't realize that.

[john_anderson_ii]

I'm very proud of Ron Paul in this speech.

The crowd was very tough, but you could physically watch the transformation of the crowd. The entire crowd went from 'What? Who? What's going on?' to 'Wow! We really do want the government out of our lives, and our communities and our churches!'

Pretty cool.

I think he could have driven home the importance of the value of the currency though. I wonder how many of the audience believed a dollar is a dollar is a dollar, without fully appreciated the effect a weak dollar can have on their families.

I think the crowd was rather shocked, when Ron Paul, as a physician, flat out said the government had no right to mandate any sort of health care for their children. That is the job of the parents.

[SouthernGuy15]

He has the best MESSAGE of any politician on the planet.

[Johnnybags]

Well, a few people stood up anyway. And by the looks on their faces they were doing it so as not to seem like they weren't going along with the rest of those who stood up. It was more out of courtesy than support for RP.

showing is not my wife or neighbor. Daggers for Ron. I'd say the parents instead of government thing was his finest inroad with them. Some scary people there. Definitely not the freestate type. Looked like Hagees crew.

[JMann]

The speech was excellent but I understand that he jumps all over the place. I think he would be well served in his major speeches to have a writer work with him to make sure he clearly states his points. Maybe Pat Buchanan would be available at a reasonable cost. Don't get me wrong I don't want the message changed just delivered a little more clearly when speaking in front of large crowds that are not supporters.

[steph3n]

he actually got a good applause on the first mention of sound money, and then a few claps later, it was interwoven through the entire speech, remember you have to repeat over and over for people to remember, he said liberty, freedom, and sound monetary system, MANY times.

[82ndVET4RP]

Great speech! I think he might of changed some of the old folks thinking in the audience. Go Ron!

[DrNoZone]

I thought he did a great job. I don't know what Congressman Paul has to do to please some of the people around here. His message of limited government, freedom, and personal responsibility resonated with his true supporters on here and with the crowd who gave him a standing ovation. Ron Paul is a true patriot and champion of liberty. It's a shame that some people don't realize that.

Are you kidding me? Because I don't hang on his every word I'm not not "understanding" his message? Please, I've been a supporter of RP for over a decade now, and his message is ingrained in my brain so deep that I know it like the back of my hand. I'm sorry you expect everyone here to be in awe every time RP speaks.

Don't get me wrong, I HAVE been in awe hearing RP speak before; this one just wasn't that kind of speech.

[reduen]

Boy this was a tuff one on Dr. Paul!

He got far less applause than Duncan Hunter but I think it is because Hunter is so much more superficial on the issues than Dr. Paul.

[constituent]

^awwww. poutey britches.

[kylejack]

He really should have hit them with Just War Doctrine, that would have been great.

[SpicyItalian739]

Are you kidding me? Because I don't hang on his every word I'm not not "understanding" his message? Please, I've been a supporter of RP for over a decade now, and his message is ingrained in my brain so deep that I know it like the back of my hand. I'm sorry you expect everyone here to be in awe every time RP speaks.

Don't get me wrong, I HAVE been in awe hearing RP speak before; this one just wasn't that kind of speech.

We all know that Ron Paul does better when he has the rabid energy of his supporters in the crowd, but what is important is the seed of liberty that he has planted in the minds of these skeptical folk.

[john_anderson_ii]

Boy this was a tuff one on Dr. Paul!

He got far less applause than Duncan Hunter but I think it is because Hunter is so much more superficial on the issues than Dr. Paul.


In the same sense that Paris Freaking Hilton would get more applause than Mother Theresa in any venue.

People generally don't like it when you make them think. Ron Paul made them think with this speech, and I think these people are going to be mulling over the concepts of his speech for many days.

[Shellshock1918]

There a video for the folks that missed it?

[recess]

I don't think this was one of his best speeches, maybe because of the crowd he was speaking to. I went to the Robert Taft Club speech and that was amazing.

[kylejack]

People generally don't like it when you make them think. Ron Paul made them think with this speech, and I think these people are going to be mulling over the concepts of his speech for many days.
Exactly. These people have been convinced that neo-conservatism and Christianity are the same thing, and Ron Paul is reminding them of their true spiritual teachings. Admitting that you've been wrong is a real hard thing, and you're not likely to applaud the person that makes you confront your own actions. But the seed gets planted.

[michaelwise]

He had the audience in his pocket, the second half of his speech. They liked what he said about education.

[wolv275]

youtube?

[ThePieSwindler]

Dr No Zone - i think we can agree that the speech was a bit disjointed. The speech itSELF was not linear. However, each point he made in the speech was made pretty clearly. He stated his positions and views clearly and coherently, with a common thread, that of liberty. However, he did not have a linear progression of ideas, he seemingly skipped from topic to topic. When he talked about each topic, he made alot of sense, but the speech overall did seem disjointed. That was the impression i got - he made the points clear, they stuck well, but the speech was not an oratory masterpiece. Who cares? He got his points accross succintly, and thats what matters, and it got the brain cranks turning in some of these individuals, hopefully!

[steph3n]

What is so cool is the message of freedom is true to ANYONE, liberal or conservative, or even anarchist, atheist or christian. the message is the SAME.

[kylejack]

What is so cool is the message of freedom is true to ANYONE, liberal or conservative, or even anarchist, atheist or christian. the message is the SAME.

Not a fascist! ;)

[Malakai0]

I don't think this was one of his best speeches, maybe because of the crowd he was speaking to. I went to the Robert Taft Club speech and that was amazing.

I'd have sold a kidney to have been there!

[angelatc]

dammit! I missed it. (pouty)

[steph3n]

Not a fascist! ;)

haha, so true :D

And there are some in that crowd and speech. :(

[Danny Molina]

My goodness.

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?c=1&f=555555&u=ronpaul2008.com&u=mikehuckabee.com&u=gohunter08.com&u=teamtancredo.org&r=3m&y=r&z=3&h=300&w=610
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?c=1&f=555555&u=ronpaul2008.com&u=mikehuckabee.com&u=gohunter08.com&u=teamtancredo.org&r=3m&y=p&z=3&h=300&w=610

[MusoSpuso]

I have to disagree with those that didn't think this was a good speech. They seem to be basing it on crowd reaction which I think shouldn't be used to judge the speech's content. It was an awesome speech. He had a bit more fire in him then usual. I love it when he gets biblical--and I'm not even religious!

[john_anderson_ii]

My impression of the speech for those who missed it:

All other speakers: "Yay God! Yay Christians! Yay Conservatives! Boo Islam! Boo liberals!"

Crowd: Cheers wildly

Ron Paul: "Remember the consequences of these actions and who is responsible for them."

Crowd: "Consequences? Responsibility? Wha...? Oh...yeah...I almost forgot about those things. Maybe I should start looking into that."

[Patrick Henry]

My impression of the speech for those who missed it:

All other speakers: "Yay God! Yay Christians! Yay Conservatives! Boo Islam! Boo liberals!"

Crowd: Cheers wildly

Ron Paul: "Remember the consequences of these actions and who is responsible for them."

Crowd: "Consequences? Responsibility? Wha...? Oh...yeah...I almost forgot about those things. Maybe I should start looking into that."

That is actually quite accuarate.

[texasbelle]

I really enjoyed this speech. I only listened to Duncan Hunter speak before and I swear I have heard him tell the same story about 20 times. :rolleyes: Ron Paul touched on so many various issues. It gave the crowd so many things to ponder. There was something in that speech that would catch everyone's attention. Whether it was the story about walking in on an abortion as a med student, the mandatory mental health screens of students, or the destruction of the dollar I felt as if you could see the crowd's interest peaking. Definitely seeds were being planted. Ron Paul makes you think. People just need to wake up!!!!

[reduen]

Wow, Star Parker is awesome!! Just wow! :)

[kaligula]

The Family Research council is an anathema to libertarianism. I don't even know why he bothers...

[steph3n]

Wow, Star Parker is awesome!! Just wow! :)

high energy, STOP CLAPPING I NEED TIME!! :D
she keeps talking about freedom too....... hint?

[Sematary]

The Family Research council is an anathema to libertarianism. I don't even know why he bothers...

Because he needs their votes too.
He IS a Republican and this is part of the game.

[cmc]

Youtube!

[steph3n]

The Family Research council is an anathema to libertarianism. I don't even know why he bothers...

these people need to understand that authoritarians will REMOVE their liberties, if they awake they will see it.

[Sematary]

Youtube!

What he said!

[murrayrothbard]

The Family Research council is an anathema to libertarianism.

how so?

[Ron Paul Fan]

I said in another thread that Ron Paul's delivery is not always the best, but his message is and that's what really mattered here today! He has some flaws as we all do. But he is our representative for freedom and liberty so we have to accept that. Any speech where Congressman Paul is able to reach new people and spread the freedom message is a good speech in my book.

[reduen]

high energy, STOP CLAPPING I NEED TIME!! :D
she keeps talking about freedom too....... hint?


She will be voting for Dr. Paul for sure!!

This is a perfect follow up to Dr. Paul!! Again, just wow!!!:cool:

[reduen]

Somebody please get this womans (Star Parker) contact info! (Then contact her on behalf of Dr. Paul!)

She is great!

[JosephTheLibertarian]

well, where did he make this speech at??

[Ron Paul Fan]

Who is this lady speaking right now? She gets it!

[LibertyEagle]

The speech was very good. I agree with DrNoZone though, that it would have been even better if the delivery was honed. It was still very good though. He certainly gave them a lot to think about.

[entropy]

The only problem I have with RP's speech is optimism. His message is well thought out, his principles are sound. His delivery, while not "polished", is genuine and earnest.

He needs to begin and end with a much stronger message of hope via the constitution ands it's timeless wisdom.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

god damnit.. missed it. fuck

[LibertyEagle]

Who is this lady speaking right now? She gets it!

Star Parker.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Oh. I had it on mute, I thought it was another one of those "what about the inner city" blah speeches

[LibertyEagle]

Man, I wish we could get this woman in our camp. Wow!

[noxagol]

If I didn't know any better, I'd think this was Ron Paul talking lol.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

anyone youtube Ron Paul?

[kylejack]

Wow, this Star Parker has had 4 abortions and used to be a welfare mom.

[specsaregood]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Parker

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Star Parker (b. 1956) is an American author. Parker is also an advocate and spokesperson for conservative causes.

Parker, an African American woman, spent her formative years as an unemployed mother receiving welfare; she had a criminal record and has disclosed that she had four abortions.

Parker converted to Christianity and subsequently became a spokeswoman for conservative Christian political issues. She opposes the welfare system, claims that stable families and self-reliance are the best way to end poverty and opposes abortion.

Parker is the founder and president of the Coalition on Urban Renewal and Education. She is also a syndicated columnist for Scripps Howard News Service and the author of three books: White Ghetto : How Middle Class America Reflects Inner City Decay (2006), Uncle Sam's Plantation: How Big Government Enslaves America's Poor and What We Can Do About It (2003) and Pimps, Whores and Welfare Brats: From Welfare Cheat to Conservative Messenger (1998).

Parker appeared as co-host on the ABC daytime talk show The View on June 19, 2007.

Parker is currently a speaker for the Clare Boothe Luce Policy Institute's college campus lecture program.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I sure hope someone was taping it

[literatim]

how so?

Because clearly, in a libertarian society, who needs morals and family? /sarcasm

[kylejack]

I sure hope someone was taping it
Everything on C-SPAN gets posted on their website after a day or so.

[reduen]

I should have an mp3 file of both Ron Paul and Star Parker tonight if anyone wants it. It may be hard to get it to you because of file size but maybe we can figure it out...:)

[kylejack]

how so?

They run drives to e-mail the FCC about horrifying injustices such as people saying naughty words on television, or Heaven help us, a nipple.

[steph3n]

They run drives to e-mail the FCC about horrifying injustices such as people saying naughty words on television, or Heaven help us, a nipple.

that is what the FCC is there for, get rid of the FCC and they send it to no one :D
Or they boycott the sponsors, free market in action.

[murrayrothbard]

They run drives to e-mail the FCC about horrifying injustices such as people saying naughty words on television, or Heaven help us, a nipple.

Well yeah, but I mean is that their main reason to exist? So they don't like 'smut', but how is that unlibertarian (besides compaining to the FCC)?

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Everything on C-SPAN gets posted on their website after a day or so.

damnit

[kylejack]

Well yeah, but I mean is that their main reason to exist? So they don't like 'smut', but how is that unlibertarian (besides compaining to the FCC)?
Using the government to initiate force against someone else is un-libertarian.

[steph3n]

Using the government to initiate force against someone else is un-libertarian.

well the government put the "commission" there, use it to the fullest?
In free market it would be done more direct any properly, but when the government is there, people can, will, and do use it.

i don't think anyone is defending them, and saying they are some libertarian think tank, but they are not totally opposite either!

[Dustancostine]

Wow, Star Parker is awesome!! Just wow! :)

Yea I heard her speech on XM and it was fabulous (and I am a atheist). She sounded like a RP supporter to me.

--Dustan

[kylejack]

well the government put the "commission" there, use it to the fullest?
In free market it would be done more direct any properly, but when the government is there, people can, will, and do use it.

i don't think anyone is defending them, and saying they are some libertarian think tank, but they are not totally opposite either!

Government is just a weapon, in this sense. If an organization is using that "weapon" to attack the free speech rights of others, that organization is anathema to libertarianism.

[kaligula]

how so?

go to their website and read their positions on how they would like to use government power to regulate their version of the moral society. they specifically attack Nevada as a libertarian economic and social model. I have no interest in Hillary Clinton telling me how to live but neither do i have any interest in james Dobson doing so either.

[Danny Molina]

PFFFT and they say liberals spew hate listen to these nutcases.

[American]

xtians are a scary bunch, they are here in numbers and they are so insecure with themselves they need to push there own agenda down everyones throat just to make them feel justified and vindicated in there own belief. Now thats faith in action if I ever seen it.....lol

I dont care what you believe in as long as its not forced on ME!

Grrrrrr

[steph3n]

I don't see anyone forcing it on you. even they are not forcing it on you.


xtians are a scary bunch, they are here in numbers and they are so insecure with themselves they need to push there own agenda down everyones throat just to make them feel justified and vindicated in there own belief. Now thats faith in action if I ever seen it.....lol

I dont care what you believe in as long as its not forced on ME!

Grrrrrr

[American]

I don't see anyone forcing it on you. even they are not forcing it on you.

Let me rephrase this then, I dont need any help to know what is wrong and what is right. They were talking about hollywood movies and how people think that its real. This is more a failure of the educational system rather then any movie coming out of hollyweird. So, to me there intent will be lost along the way since the dont even understand the problem.

[murrayrothbard]

Using the government to initiate force against someone else is un-libertarian.

Doesn't that make the government itself "unlibertarian"? Anything the government "does" involves initating violence against another person...:confused:

[steph3n]

ah but education is so bad right now no one has any clue of anything, it is the way the current government wants it, dumb people = sheep

I understand your point now

Let me rephrase this then, I dont need any help to know what is wrong and what is right. They were talking about hollywood movies and how people think that its real. This is more a failure of the educational system rather then any movie coming out of hollyweird. So, to me there intent will be lost along the way since the dont even understand the problem.

[kaligula]

that is what the FCC is there for, get rid of the FCC and they send it to no one :D
Or they boycott the sponsors, free market in action.

Family research Council is not for abolishing the FCC. If anything, they would probably like to see it extended to the internet

[kylejack]

Doesn't that make the government itself "unlibertarian"? Anything the government "does" involves initating violence against another person...:confused:
Arresting a criminal who harmed someone is not an initiation of force, it is a response to initiation of force. Using force to stop someone who is dangerous from harming more people is entirely consistent with libertarianism.

[steph3n]

Family research Council is not for abolishing the FCC. If anything, they would probably like to see it extended to the internet

they are driven by their members, who can demand more libertarian means of protest :D I am now a member, and I can help guide that, just like bringing the republican party back to life, liberty and freedom. It is all the same war, just another battle!

[murrayrothbard]

Arresting a criminal who harmed someone is not an initiation of force, it is a response to initiation of force. Using force to stop someone who is dangerous from harming more people is entirely consistent with libertarianism.

But how does the government acquire the scarce resources required to perform such tasks?

[American]

Ron Paul already talked, is that right?

I cant watch this happy horse sh*t, its completely irrational and makes no sense.

Someone got a youtube video of RP in this event?

What would Thomas Paine do?


"The Christian religion and Masonry have one and the same common origin: both are derived from the worship of the Sun. The difference between their origin is, that the Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun"
~ Thomas Paine

[steph3n]

Ron Paul already talked, is that right?

I cant watch this happy horse sh*t, its completely irrational and makes no reasonable sense.

Someone got a youtube video of RP in this event?

yes Dr Paul has spoken, and it was great(the message of it, delivery a bit off) :)

[fj45lvr]

YOU TUBE???? PLEASE... just missed him I guess.

[kaligula]

they are driven by their members, who can demand more libertarian means of protest :D I am now a member, and I can help guide that, just like bringing the republican party back to life, liberty and freedom. It is all the same war, just another battle!


Okay, I'll overlook you're a member of the FRC if you overlook the fact that Im a member of the ACLU :)

[steph3n]

Okay, I'll overlook you're a member of the FRC if you overlook the fact that Im a member of the ACLU :)

Don't care at all :)
They can co-exist just fine, i gave FRC to vote in the straw poll. :D it is an important voting bloc, and it needs to be reached, I applaud them for giving Dr Paul 20 minutes without blaring some music and cutting him off.

[FrankRep]

Okay, I'll overlook you're a member of the FRC if you overlook the fact that Im a member of the ACLU :)

Conservatives, Punks, Republicans, Democrats, Anarchists, Capitalists, all coming together and uniting under the banner of FREEDOM.

[kaligula]

Don't care at all :)
They can co-exist just fine, i gave FRC to vote in the straw poll. :D it is an important voting bloc, and it needs to be reached, I applaud them for giving Dr Paul 20 minutes without blaring some music and cutting him off.


Actually, there's much I don't agree with on the ACLU, but 1st Amendment speech and especially 4th amendment issues is why I support them.

[runderwo]

Actually, there's much I don't agree with on the ACLU, but 1st Amendment speech and especially 4th amendment issues is why I support them.

The thing I don't like about the ACLU is that it's apparently impossible to donate to them without becoming a permanent spam magnet for all sorts of leftist causes.

[kylejack]

The thing I don't like about the ACLU is that it's apparently impossible to donate to them without becoming a permanent spam magnet for all sorts of leftist causes.

Put money in a paper bag, set it on their doorstep and run.

[kaligula]

The thing I don't like about the ACLU is that it's apparently impossible to donate to them without becoming a permanent spam magnet for all sorts of leftist causes.


I never have gotten snail mail spam...

[noxagol]

Put money in a paper bag, set it on their doorstep and run.

HAHA

[runderwo]

I wish they'd drop their Democrat lap-dog affiliation and focus on what it is that their core mission should have always been... protecting the Constitution from assault.

[inibo]

Doesn't that make the government itself "unlibertarian"? Anything the government "does" involves initating violence against another person...:confused:

You have that nick and you ask that question?

I'm perplexed.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

youtube plz

[NinjaPirate]

youtube plz

..

[frasu]

youtube plz

please with sugar on top

[RP4ME]

please with sugar on top

shuggga on top

[mrchubbs]

Parts 1 and 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGu-da6XvJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swkqhsp1syo

Part 3 coming up.

[literatim]

Parts 1 and 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGu-da6XvJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swkqhsp1syo

Part 3 coming up.


Could someone post it without the subtitles?

[ThePieSwindler]

xtians are a scary bunch, they are here in numbers and they are so insecure with themselves they need to push there own agenda down everyones throat just to make them feel justified and vindicated in there own belief. Now thats faith in action if I ever seen it.....lol

I dont care what you believe in as long as its not forced on ME!

Grrrrrr

most christians are not like this, however. So generalizations such as yours here are unnecessary.

[steph3n]

Could someone post it without the subtitles?

being picky now are we? :D

[Mordechai Vanunu]

Parts 1 and 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGu-da6XvJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swkqhsp1syo

Part 3 coming up.

Thanks for posting.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

k. I'm ready for #3

[goldstandard]

Me too!

Thanks for posting.

[steph3n]

Check the other thread, it has all 3