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purplechoe
10-29-2010, 10:03 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/10/28/airline.security.pat.down/index.html?hpt=T2
TSA to phase in new pat-down procedures at airports nationwide
By Jim Barnett, CNN Senior Producer
October 29, 2010 11:41 a.m. EDT
Washington (CNN) -- Airline passengers can expect to see as well as feel new pat-down procedures at U.S. airports over the coming weeks in an effort to provide another layer of security for travelers, the Transportation Security Administration said Thursday.
"Pat-downs are one important tool to help TSA detect hidden and dangerous items such as explosives," according to a TSA statement sent to CNN.
The TSA said passengers should continue to expect "an unpredictable mix of security layers that include explosives trace detection, advanced imaging technology, canine teams, among others."
But it's the hands-on procedures that have at least one traveler concerned that the TSA may be going too far.
Rosemary Fitzpatrick, a CNN employee, said she was subjected to a pat-down at the Orlando, Florida, airport on Wednesday night after her underwire bra set off a magnetometer. She said she was taken to a private area and searched, with transportation screening officers telling her the pat-down was a new procedure.
According to Fitzpatrick, a female screener ran her hands around her breasts, over her stomach, buttocks and her inner thighs, and briefly touched her crotch.
"I felt helpless, I felt violated, and I felt humiliated," Fitzpatrick said, adding that she was reduced to tears at the checkpoint. She particularly objected to the fact that travelers were not warned about the new procedures...
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She works for CNN.
Shouldn't she be licking the TSA's boots?
purplechoe
10-29-2010, 10:14 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/tsa-pat-procedure-airports/story?id=11998304
Video at the above link
Pat Down or Full Body Scan? Security Gets More Personal at Airports
As TSA Changes Airport Pat-Down Procedure, Some Ask If Security Has Gone Too Far
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By ANDREA CANNING
Oct. 28, 2010
Next time you pass through security in some airports around the country, you may face a difficult dilemma: Would you rather have a revealing, full body scan or what some are calling an X-rated pat down?
Some passengers opt out of the full-body scan, concerned about the low doses of radiation emitted by the high-tech body scanners that are being put in place in many terminals. The machines also are able to see beneath clothes, creating a photo-realistic picture of the passenger's body.
purplechoe
10-29-2010, 10:22 PM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/68228.html
Bogus Security Indeed
Posted by Lew Rockwell on October 29, 2010 02:26 PM
Writes Eli Cryderman:
I’m not one to look to the state of Israel for guidance on most anything, but their logic employed in omitting the porno-scanners that Michael Chertoff is peddling — that they don’t have a thing to do with airport/airplane security — bears repeating:
“I don’t know why everybody is running to buy these expensive and useless machines. I can overcome the body scanners with enough explosives to bring down a Boeing 747. That’s why we haven’t put them in our airport.” — Rafi Sela, leading Israeli airport security expert, referring to Tel Aviv’s Ben Gurion International Airport, which has some of the toughest security in the world.
Anti Federalist
10-29-2010, 10:27 PM
Do Not Fly.
If you can at all avoid it, Do Not Fly.
Do Not Fly.
If you can at all avoid it, Do Not Fly.
Maybe a national boycott of the airliners and rally s and protests against the TSA is needed?
purplechoe
10-29-2010, 10:32 PM
Do Not Fly.
If you can at all avoid it, Do Not Fly.
But that's exactly what they want you to do... it's only for the privileged!
Anti Federalist
10-29-2010, 10:34 PM
Maybe a national boycott of the airliners and rally s and protests against the TSA is needed?
A one day national "No Fly Day" would be great.
About as likely as seeing god though.
Modern Americans don't upset the applecart like that and they certainly don't strike.
Anti Federalist
10-29-2010, 10:37 PM
But that's exactly what they want you to do... it's only for the privileged!
For the ruling class only.
I know.
But only by applying financial pressure will the airlines exert political pressure to eliminate this nonsense.
A one day national "No Fly Day" would be great.
About as likely as seeing god though.
Modern Americans don't upset the applecart like that and they certainly don't strike.
I mean more than one day, like a national movement of fed up American's being treated like terrorists because of 9 11 and all the so called security needed for the "war on terror", and make Congress to get rid of these unnecessary security and the body scanners, and even repel unconstitutional laws like the Patriot Act.
But of course Congress well more than likely being who they are well just pass more Anti-terror laws like McCain's bill, putting any body into prison as a terrorist with no charges or any thing.
Like a mass of people not flying is going to stop them?
Theyll just move on to track autos next.
heavenlyboy34
10-29-2010, 11:21 PM
a one day national "no fly day" would be great.
About as likely as seeing god though.
Modern americans don't upset the applecart like that and they certainly don't strike.
qft!!! :(
Brian4Liberty
10-30-2010, 12:03 AM
a female screener ran her hands around her breasts, over her stomach, buttocks and her inner thighs, and briefly touched her crotch.
Hmmmm. Getting in line too many times will no doubt be a crime too... :(
smithtg
10-30-2010, 03:37 AM
qft!!! :(
people at airports are no smarter than my dad's beef cows. herd them around, do this, do that. read my other post about my "opt out" experience. The pat down was just joyous. I think the next time I fly with my 4 year and 1 year old daughters Ill make sure some dude gets to pat them down as they wont be going through the scanners. Ill make sure my daughter tells the guy that "nobody is supposed to touch me there"
TonySutton
10-30-2010, 06:44 AM
I have not flown since 2006 because of this type of garbage.
Romulus
10-30-2010, 11:32 AM
Its only going to get worse... we can only hope people are pushed to their limits.. maybe then everyone will resists BOTH scanners and patdowns.
Anti Federalist
10-30-2010, 12:15 PM
people at airports are no smarter than my dad's beef cows. herd them around, do this, do that. read my other post about my "opt out" experience. The pat down was just joyous. I think the next time I fly with my 4 year and 1 year old daughters Ill make sure some dude gets to pat them down as they wont be going through the scanners. Ill make sure my daughter tells the guy that "nobody is supposed to touch me there"
^^^That
+rep
Promontorium
10-30-2010, 04:54 PM
You guys don't seem to remember 2001. If the invisible hand tries to make a change, the government will rip the fucking money right out of our pockets.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/153077/its-illegal
ClayTrainor
10-30-2010, 04:58 PM
You guys don't seem to remember 2001. If the invisible hand tries to make a change, the government will rip the fucking money right out of our pockets.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/153077/its-illegal
That links doesn't work here in canada. What clip was that?
angelatc
10-30-2010, 05:01 PM
Do Not Fly.
If you can at all avoid it, Do Not Fly.
I haven't flown, except for overseas once right after 9/11 when everybody was afraid to fly, since they started asking for ID back in the '80's.
Promontorium
10-30-2010, 05:09 PM
That links doesn't work here in canada. What clip was that?
South Park did an episode about the airline bailouts in 2001 "The Entity". The clip was the scene where the FBI comes in and steals all of Mr. Garrison's "It' devices because they compete with the airlines, which must be protected at all costs.
MelissaWV
10-30-2010, 05:13 PM
I mean more than one day, like a national movement of fed up American's being treated like terrorists because of 9 11 and all the so called security needed for the "war on terror", and make Congress to get rid of these unnecessary security and the body scanners, and even repel unconstitutional laws like the Patriot Act.
But of course Congress well more than likely being who they are well just pass more Anti-terror laws like McCain's bill, putting any body into prison as a terrorist with no charges or any thing.
It's getting there, but it won't have the desired effect. People are reconsidering flying to destinations because of a combination of monetary cost and time involved. If you have to be at an airport 2-3 hours before your flight, then your flight is delayed, then you have to catch a connecting flight, then you arrive and wait 20-30 minutes as you navigate to get your luggage and find your rental car (unless your luggage is lost, which means a much longer wait...), how on earth are you saving any time? Wouldn't you rather be driving and seeing parts of the country than stuck in that nasty germ-infested capsule zooming across the country?
When enough people do this, though, the Government will simply throw money at the airlines which they consider to be "too big to fail" as well.
james1906
10-30-2010, 06:45 PM
Hopefully Sharron Angle will realize her tourist-thirsty state is hurting because of all this bullshit and will push to get it abolished.
Hawai'i's far too liberal to get it.
If people in general would just speak their minds and complain openly on a regular and consistent basis then it would become such a hassle for the airlines and the TSA that they would have to, at least, tone down their fear mongering.
It's time to take back the system as a customer and stop bowing down to what we're forced to do.... take away their customers and they won't have the cash to support all of this extra overhead.
It was a few years ago, last time I flew, but I was given a "red card" when I tried to go through "the line," they were patting me down and I told them it was sick and asked them if they were going to give me an anal cavity search or something and they just chuckled and I was told it was because I bought tickets and flew so quickly, within a couple of days... a funeral.
I thought that was insulting and today it sounds like it's way worse. :mad:
lester1/2jr
10-31-2010, 09:28 AM
this is really a perfect example of how we have sacrifised our dignity in pursuing our foreign policy. we deserve this.
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