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FrankRep
10-26-2010, 05:01 PM
Harry Reid vs. Sharron Angle (http://sharronangle.com/) For Nevada Senate


Sharron Angle (R) 49% Harry Reid (D) 45%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/nevada/election_2010_nevada_senate


Nevada Voters Complain Of Problems At Polls (http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/25511115/detail.html)

Fox 5 Vegas
October 26, 2010


Some voters in Boulder City complained on Monday that their ballot had been cast before they went to the polls, raising questions about Clark County's electronic voting machines.

Voter Joyce Ferrara said when they went to vote for Republican Sharron Angle, her Democratic opponent, Sen. Harry Reid's name was already checked.


SEIU Controls "Glitchy" Voter Machines in Nevada (http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/10/26/the-seiu-harry-reid-and-voting-problems/)

Big Government
October 26, 2010


It is positively outrageous that in Clark County, Nevada, the SEIU Local 1107, which supports Harry Reid, controls the ballot boxes by contract through their representation of the voting machine technicians. It is not surprising that Senator Harry Reid’s name was automatically checked off on the ballot when individuals went to vote.

The U.S. Attorney’s Office, the Nevada State Attorney General, and the U.S Marshalls need to act now to ensure that the SEIU does not continue to compromise the integrity of ballots in Nevada, and anywhere else in the country. The democratic process is too precious to be tampered with and abused.

FrankRep
10-26-2010, 05:02 PM
Background on SEIU ( Service Employees International Union ):



The behavior of large unions like the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), indicate the power of the radicals and Marxists in the unions. by Raven Clabough


Are Unions Completely Overrun by Radicals? (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/3746-are-unions-completely-overrun-by-radicals)


Raven Clabough | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
09 June 2010


On yesterday’s episode of the O’Reilly Factor, Bill O’Reilly asked, “Is corruption seeping into America’s big unions?” Fox News analyst Charles Krauthammer claimed, “The labor movement has always had its radicals and Marxists, but in America we’ve never had them take over the unions and become the dominating force.” However, in consideration of the behavior of large unions like the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), Krauthammer might have underestimated the power of the radicals and Marxists in the unions.

SEIU members disrupted a banquet hall dinner where leaders from the California Nurses Association (CAN) held a Labor Notes Conference addressing 800 various union members in August 2008. SEIU members had a bone to pick with CAN, accusing them of “busting an Ohio union drive,” according to the Union News. Unionized Baltimore dockworker Roland Day stated that the SEIU protestors “were banging on the doors like a marching band base drum. Real quick they rushed through the door.”

Of the event, the Union News explained, “Things quickly got out of control in the lobby, as fliers spilled to the floor and a cacophony of chants, noisemakers and screams ensued from the SEIU group’s push towards the banquet doors.” Retired union member Dianne Feeley was pushed to the floor by an SEIU member, hitting her head and requiring stitches.

In August 2009, at a forum on aging called by Rep. Russ Carnahan (D-St. Louis), a black conservative activist, Kenneth Gladney, was physically attacked by SEIU members after he handed out yellow flags that read “Don’t tread on me.” One of the union members, who was also black, called Gladney a racial slur. In this video (http://bit.ly/duWnz), you will see that those involved in the violent outburst are wearing SEIU t-shirts.

On May 16, approximately 500 SEIU members were bussed to the home of Bank of America’s senior executive Greg Baer to indicate their opposition to banks. While this went on, Baer’s son was home by himself and frightened so severely that he took refuge in the bathroom of his home while his father attended his youngest son’s baseball game. The event was witnessed by Nina Easton, a journalist and one of Baer’s neighbors.

Ronald VanTilburg of Associated Content analyzed the “communist behavior” of the SEIU. VanTilburg described the SEIU’s protest outside of Baer’s home as “not surprising when one knows the background of the organizations Marxist philosophies as described by its recently retired President Andy Stern.” Behavior such as that of the protest outside of Baer’s home is similar to that described in The Black Book of Communism, where Pascal Fontaine describes Fidel Castro’s “Committees for Defense of the Revolution” (CDRs). The CDRs were expected to “marginalize and break the resistance of opponents … and their families,” says VanTilburg.

While the SEIU members protesting outside of Baer’s home were not violent, as opposed to the CDRs, they did in fact violate the property rights of a citizen, “another attribute of Marx’s Communist Manifesto”; their presence alone was intimidating, which seemed to be the goal.

VanTilburg also pointed to Andy Stern’s remark that alludes to Karl Marx: “Workers of the world united! It’s just not a slogan anymore. It’s a way we’re going to have to do our work.”

About the SEIU, Bill O’Reilly noted, “The SEIU has a tremendous amount of money that they get from dues and give to people like Barack Obama. They have a lot of power and they purport to be the spokesperson for the working American. We underestimate their power.”

According to the Chicago Daily Examiner, union workers in Illinois resorted to violent tactics to indicate their disapproval of Illinois-based LyondellBasell plant’s decision to hire out-of-state workers to “perform temporary ‘turnaround’ work at the facility.” The Chicago Daily Examiner noted, “According to eyewitnesses and other sources, the unions have been damaging company and personal property and even hurling stones at individuals working at the plant.”

In 2009, when two members of the Communications Workers of America union (CWA) blew the whistle on other union workers who were paid for work that they did not actually perform, they faced intimidation tactics from their “union brothers” that led to violence. One of the whistleblowers, DiStefano, found a dead rat in his locker, and was later called a rat while being hit in the face and head by another union member, resulting in two herniated discs. Instead of the CWA taking action against the attacker, DiStefano was terminated for “starting the fight.”

Glenn Beck has asserted that many of the anti-Arizona immigration law rallies were led by the SEIU, AFL-CIO, Workers World Party, Socialist Party USA, etc., the very same rallies where protestors were caught on video (http://bit.ly/bU21A9) throwing bottles at the police. In Pheonix, Arizona, protestors spray-painted “Burn this Racist City” on sidewalks.

World Net Daily points out that John Sweeney, leader of the AFL-CIO, “repealed language in the federation’s bylaws barring members of the Communist Party from full participation.” WND adds that the leadership of the AFL-CIO has “either been completely compromised by the extreme left or they are hopelessly naïve or desperate for members no matter what rock they might crawl out from under.” Not surprisingly, the change in the AFL-CIO’s bylaws was not covered in the mainstream media.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), California Faculty Association, California Federation of Teachers, and California Teachers Association came out in support of SB 1322, a bill that would have allowed the promotion of communism in public schools. Capitol Resource Institute spokesperson Karen England explained, “SB1322 would delete the requirement that an individual or organization wanting to use the school property is not a Communist action organization or Communist front organization” and would also “strike the law that a public school or community college employee may be fired if he or she is a member of the Communist Party.” Above all, SB 1322 would allow teachers to provide instruction that indoctrinates in students a preference for communism. Luckily, this bill was vetoed by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Now, Congress is currently considering a $165 billion bailout (http://thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/3628-proposed-union-bailouts-a-means-to-buy-union-votes) of union pensions. The unions have already pledged their full-fledged support of President Obama’s reelection campaign in 2012, as well as the upcoming 2010 elections. The incestuous relationship between politicians and the unions continues to deepen.

It is becoming indisputable that unions transformed from their original origins as a force against corruption in the workplace to a powerful, and often violent, ally of Washington. Unfortunately, the normally level-headed Krauthammer afforded unions the seemingly undeserved “benefit of the doubt.”


SOURCE:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/3746-are-unions-completely-overrun-by-radicals

Lord Xar
10-26-2010, 05:04 PM
Yeah, I saw this..

So what happens now?

The glitchy machines are in Union Hands, and the SEIU at that.... is this just gonna be swept under the rug or ignored?

2young2vote
10-26-2010, 05:28 PM
Can anyone who is familiar with programming tell me how hard it would be to make a working voting machine? I'm not a programmer, but this just seems like something so simple. I see video games that look almost like real life being made and programmers can't make a voting machine?

Or are these "glitches" not actually "glitches" at all (that is kind of what the articles make it sound like)?

FrankRep
10-26-2010, 05:30 PM
Or are these "glitches" not actually "glitches" at all (that is kind of what the articles make it sound like)?

When the SEIU is involved, expect corruption.

:)

oyarde
10-26-2010, 05:34 PM
When the SEIU is involved, expect corruption.

:)

Yes , that is what they are there for .

FrankRep
10-26-2010, 05:35 PM
Drudge Report:
REID 'FREE FOOD' AT TURNOUT EVENTS UNIONS 'GIFT CARDS' FOR VOTES


Angle campaign attorney: Reid “intends to steal this election if he can’t win it outright” (http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2010/oct/26/angle-campaign-attorney-reid/)

Las Vegas Sun
October 26, 2010

Bern
10-26-2010, 05:39 PM
I'm guessing they already know about it, but has anyone contacted http://blackboxvoting.org/ to inform them?

oyarde
10-26-2010, 05:40 PM
Drudge Report:
REID 'FREE FOOD' AT TURNOUT EVENTS UNIONS 'GIFT CARDS' FOR VOTES


Angle campaign attorney: Reid “intends to steal this election if he can’t win it outright” (http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2010/oct/26/angle-campaign-attorney-reid/)

Las Vegas Sun
October 26, 2010

The gift cards are a normal dem tool .

Philhelm
10-26-2010, 05:51 PM
Can anyone who is familiar with programming tell me how hard it would be to make a working voting machine? I'm not a programmer, but this just seems like something so simple. I see video games that look almost like real life being made and programmers can't make a voting machine?

Or are these "glitches" not actually "glitches" at all (that is kind of what the articles make it sound like)?

I'm not a programmer, but have had some experience with programming. While I've never tried to make a voting machine program, it would be fairly easy to do a basic one. It's all based on logic and mathematics. For instance, I could have R represent the Republican, and D represent the Democrat.

R = 0;
D = 0;
(You'd have a selection box, which would be another set of programming, but the logic would be to add 1 for each time it is selected; very basic.)
If R > D, then R is the winner, else D is the winner (unless there's a tie).

It would also be very, very easy to manipulate the program in order to intentionally fudge numbers. However, if there was suspicion, it could be found in the code. You could set it up so that every 5th vote for the R ends up going to the D instead, or any number of corrupt scenarios.

ItsTime
10-26-2010, 06:01 PM
Yeah the code can be screwed with very easily. The code should be so simple that there really should be NO error. Why is there an error at all?

FrankRep
10-26-2010, 06:13 PM
Nevada voting machines automatically checking Harry Reid's name; voting machine technicians are SEIU members (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Voting-machines-in-Clark-County-Nevada-automatically-checking-Harry-Reids-name-Voting-machine-technicians-are-members-of-SEIU-105815608.html)

Washington Examiner
Oct 26, 2010

Deborah K
10-26-2010, 06:35 PM
Get voter machines decertified in your area. Find out who is counting the votes. And watch this documentary: Hacking Democracy (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7926958774822130737#docid=35589281 84519856419)

HOLLYWOOD
10-26-2010, 06:36 PM
Election Fraud is Felony Fraud... Of Course OBama and AG Eric Holder will just ignore it all... or say they are investigating it, just to skip into the abyss.

The AG of Nevada is another Socialist so it's going to have to Governor GiBBons.

If I was governor, I would mobilize the national guard and alert the state police NV DPS to visit all polling places and monitor voting complaints and get those SEIU names.

Anti Federalist
10-26-2010, 06:38 PM
It's very easy to program even an optical scanner for paper ballots to read whatever you want it to.

oyarde
10-26-2010, 06:46 PM
Election Fraud is Felony Fraud... Of Course OBama and AG Eric Holder will just ignore it all... or say they are investigating it, just to skip into the abyss.

The AG of Nevada is another Socialist so it's going to have to Governor GiBBons.

If was governor I would mobilize the national guard and alert the state police NV DPS to visit polling place and get SEIU names.

Over half of the voters will likely vote against him . How did they expect to get away with that ? Why are union members allowed to be involved in that ? If it was a championship college football or basketball game , they use a crew of ref's not from the conferences playing .

HOLLYWOOD
10-26-2010, 06:46 PM
http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee332/McLieberman/REIDFREEFOOD.jpg

Anti Federalist
10-26-2010, 06:55 PM
YouTube - Silvestro the cat / NH voting (More:see Hacking Democracy) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiaBqwqkXs)

Dr.3D
10-26-2010, 07:30 PM
Guess I'll go down and get my free food card then vote for a liberty candidate.

oyarde
10-26-2010, 07:34 PM
Guess I'll go down and get my free food card then vote for a liberty candidate.

Lol , I do not live in a heavy liberal district , so all I get is a stern look from a couple of old broads and a sticker that says I voted . If you try to tell them you do not want the sticker , I think they may just try and body slam me .

HOLLYWOOD
10-26-2010, 07:57 PM
Guess I'll go down and get my free food card then vote for a liberty candidate.


Free Food and Gift Card:

Look for a lot of SEIU generated depots to vote for REID.

Dr.3D
10-26-2010, 08:28 PM
Free Food and Gift Card:

Look for a lot of SEIU generated depots to vote for REID.
Even better!
Those idiots want to give away stuff, I see no reason why we shouldn't get our share. :D

FrankRep
11-02-2010, 08:54 PM
Nevada Election Results May Be Delayed By Power Outage (http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/25614211/detail.html)

Fox 5 Vegas
November 2, 2010


I would expect nothing less.

BuddyRey
11-02-2010, 09:47 PM
Surprise surprise!

FrankRep
11-02-2010, 10:14 PM
420 of 2121 Precincts Reporting (http://www.cbsnews.com/election2010/state.shtml?state=nv&tag=el2010states;el2010statesDropDown)

Reid..: 51% - 228,179
Angle: 45% - 197,866

puppetmaster
11-02-2010, 11:24 PM
if we vote reid back in, fuck it...I'm moving my business to Kentucky!

osan
11-02-2010, 11:44 PM
Can anyone who is familiar with programming tell me how hard it would be to make a working voting machine? I'm not a programmer, but this just seems like something so simple. I see video games that look almost like real life being made and programmers can't make a voting machine?

Or are these "glitches" not actually "glitches" at all (that is kind of what the articles make it sound like)?

Dunno all the issues involved, but it is probably not that major a feat from the registration of votes aspect. The security aspect, however, may be non-trivial.

If we cannot eliminate electronic voting machines, we should certainly make the software public domain and "peer reviewable". that way all hands are on the table. I can envision a set of protocols for distributing the code, loading it on the machines, compiling it, and securing it after voting is completed so that post-mortem security audits can be done on every machine.


I would also make every executable runnable on only ONE machine. A further anti-fraud measure.

As I wrote in another post, put me in charge if such a project and I would see that electronic voting became safer than that done with paper. There is NO reason this cannot be made quite perfect.

LibertyBrews
11-02-2010, 11:44 PM
if we vote reid back in, fuck it...I'm moving my business to Kentucky!

It's probably Harry voting himself in.

AceNZ
11-03-2010, 12:58 AM
Can anyone who is familiar with programming tell me how hard it would be to make a working voting machine?

Counting votes is easy, as is the associated user interface. Avoiding fraud is technically challenging, although it certainly can be done.


Or are these "glitches" not actually "glitches" at all (that is kind of what the articles make it sound like)?

Impossible to say without much more information.

To anyone who has had experience with software written under government contract, having a myriad of bugs and security holes should come as no surprise.

Indy Vidual
11-03-2010, 01:07 AM
I'm not a programmer, but have had some experience with programming. While I've never tried to make a voting machine program, it would be fairly easy to do a basic one. It's all based on logic and mathematics. For instance, I could have R represent the Republican, and D represent the Democrat.

R = 0;
D = 0;
(You'd have a selection box, which would be another set of programming, but the logic would be to add 1 for each time it is selected; very basic.)
If R > D, then R is the winner, else D is the winner (unless there's a tie).

It would also be very, very easy to manipulate the program in order to intentionally fudge numbers. However, if there was suspicion, it could be found in the code. You could set it up so that every 5th vote for the R ends up going to the D instead, or any number of corrupt scenarios.

+1001001 SOS!
YouTube - Rush - The Body Electric (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_-erwkhpXQ)

Deborah K
11-03-2010, 07:30 AM
I'm not getting why she was marginally ahead in the polls leading up to the vote, only to get hammered by 6%. I'm not buying it for a minute! The voting machine technicians were SEIU members. Give me a break! How does this happen?

Stary Hickory
11-03-2010, 07:49 AM
I'm not getting why she was marginally ahead in the polls leading up to the vote, only to get hammered by 6%. I'm not buying it for a minute! The voting machine technicians were SEIU members. Give me a break! How does this happen?

Wondering too, but if they fudged it 10%(which is what they would have had to do here) then it should be easy to figure out what happened. I'm saying that it would have to be blatant cheating, and likely would not go undiscovered.

TNforPaul45
11-03-2010, 07:58 AM
It is very very easy to program all sorts of the electronic voting machines for fraud. Look at the past stories of machines that always default out to 51-49 for candidates that are picked to win, or those with alphabetically last names being higher. Diebold, etc, have all already had members come out and say that this was going on.

The whole system is scammed out the waazoo.

Deborah K
11-03-2010, 08:08 AM
I wanna know who counts the votes.